Yeah, that's better wording. I was falling asleep when I was posting. We also have to remember, sometimes, you will over flex and over stress the racket. This will eventually lead to the racket breaking down and the shaft/frame going from some level of stiff to flexible to eventually breaking/cracking. But forunately, that's relative. For instance, an advanced player with power won't use an extremely flexible beginner racket. At least not usually. My dink shot arm agrees with you, the Woven 9 hits a bit harder than the 3U Ti10. But there's not too much difference. I hit noticeably harder with the NS9000-X but most people at The Club hit harder and prefer the S. So it's all relative.
Man, you must be at the top of the power pack . With all those Yonex casualties, I say you can overwhelm a CAB 22 .
I love my Yonex MP100 for smashing/drops and I tried the nanospeed 9kX too and also a very nice smasher. Strings are also important here. I want to try an AT700 and Woven11 but for now I am really happy with my mp100.
i have also use the mp100 before but its broken now so wan to get a better upgrade for around the same price....how much does a woven 11 cost in singapore?
Mp100 stiff as rock In my point of view.. MP100 doesnt seem like the right choice.. Maybe I don't really like it becuase of it's stiffness.. I think Ti-10 #u or MP99 2U will be good for good smashing power.
I have 3 U versions of the following rackets all strung with BG 66 at 22 pounds with a digital machine: - Ti10 - mp100 - mp 99 - Armortec 800 Offence - Nanospeed 9000x I personally feel that the naospeed 9000x gives the best smashing power despite its head light feel. It is hard to describe exactly, but when smashing with the nano, it feels almost as though you can feel the shuttle deforming on the string (I string all my rackets 22pound with digital machine and do not feel this with other rackets) and that the racket increases the time of contact of the string with the shuttle, so maybe it transfers more energy across. Overall, nano uses the least effort for most amazing smashes. But the other rackets are also great for smashing as I got them for this exact reason. I found mp 100 > Armor 800 Off > Ti10 > mp 99. Unfortunately, I have not had the pleasure to test non-yonex rackets.
Ti10 2U smashes are sharper than the 3U, but e trade off is not worth it. e heaviness really slows down the racket a lot as compared to 3u version. At700 3u is smashes like 2U Ti10, but over seems faster than 2U ti10 but not as fast as the 3U version. 3u ti10 is just right for me overall. if i know i am going to just keep smashing( playing w one that will just keep lifting to you) i would go for a 2u ti10 ot AT700. otherwise 3u Ti10 gives better allround play
I tried the Woven 11 yesterday again, compared to the Woven 7, Woven 9, Diamond Fighter D-900, True Speed TS-100 and 2U MP100... ...the Woven 11 hits noticeably harder than all the other rackets. Smashing at ~75% my max, the defender could return half or more of my smashes with the other rackets but with the Woven 11, I was hitting him or he was just barely getting the racket on the shuttle. I could not believe it...the defender told me, "Dan, you need to use the 11 all the time" as the proof was in the quality of his returns. I'm going to pick-up a Woven 11 tomorrow and will do more comparisons. Please note, the Woven 11 hits the hardest (so far) for me. Another person tried the same rackets and got the most power from the lightest racket, the Woven 9. Yet another person hits the hardest with the TS-100. So each person is different with different optimal power rackets.
well, that can be explained...the 9 user probably is the physically weaker wrist-player (like I am for that matter). power~momentum= mass x velocity so heavier rackets only hit harder IF the user can swing it at the same velocity..
Yes and no. Yes on the swing but the key is minimizing the loss/transfer of energy during and after impact. You can swing really fast with a heavy racket but if once you strike the shuttle and lose most of that force, it's not good. You need to find the racket with the ideal weight and balance so you minimize the loss of the transfer of energy once you strike the shuttle. Going back to my softball reference, the NASA scientists who worked on this phenomenon called it "after impact swing speed". I guess we can call it that too.
Jerby: no, you misunderstand me. You can only swing so fast. Whatever that speed is, let's say 100mph, once you strike the shuttle, the swing speed will go down, it has too. If you lose say 5mph, that's great. If you lose 50mph, that's definitely not good and you should find another racket. The point of the NASA scientists was to find the best bat (in our case racket) that would minimize your loss of speed after impact. That takes trial and error...and ideally, a radar gun or a defender on the other side telling you which racket you hit harder with. I believe most here understand, if you have minimal swing speed loss after impact with the shuttle, it means you are maximizing your power.
DinkAlot, Interesting idea, as common sense would dictate that in order to produce the most powerful shot, the key is to MAXIMIZE the loss/transfer of energy during impact ONTO the shuttle, so that the shuttle will fly fast, hopefully past our opponent(s) and into the court. A common knowledge is that the more time the shuttle has in contact with the string, the more time there is for energy to be transfered, i.e. lower tension string will deform more on impact meaning more time for energy transfer and the increased elastic deformation of the low tension strings means less energy is wasted in terms of heat and sound, therefore, low tension = more powerful shot, and hitting on frame, which is hard and nowhere as elastic as string, resulting in ineffective energy tranfer, resulting in a weak shot. So, theretically, if you have say 100% of "energy" in your swing and you can transfer 2% onto the shuttle, it'll be better than only transfering 1%. Common sense would suggest that how fast the racket is moving AFTER impact has no bearing on how fast the shuttle is flying apart from giving scientist a way to measure how fast it was DURING impact and how fast it was BEFORE, so you can work out how much was transfered or wasted. Its been while since I revised any physics (as have been busy playing badminton and doctor ), but this is a simple way of looking at it. It would seem perfectly reasonable to assume that from laws of conservation, that momentum is conserved and that the momentum from the racket (mass of racket x swing speed) will equal to the momentum of the shuttle (mass of shuttle x shuttle speed) plus some energy losses to sound (sound of hitting shuttle) and minimal heat losses (shuttle gets warm up a little from friction). Therefore: Racket mass x Swing speed = Shuttle mass x Shuttle speed + Energy loss (sound and heat). With the shuttle mass fixed and energy loss negligible, heavier racket and faster swing speed means increased shuttle speed = power!. During a smash, the goal is to maximize shuttle speed. We know that during the course of a game, we can not change the racket mass, shuttle mass or control energy losses, so the way to do it is to maximize swing speed, and PRAY that the swing speed/momentum gets transfered to the shuttle, as much as possible. I mean, hitting a shuttle is not rocket science, just maximize the shuttle speed by "swinging your racket bloody fast". And maximize the energy transfer by hitting in the "sweet-spot" of the racket, which we all strive to do. What do you all think?
Whoa! So.........having a good final 'connection' with the shuttle is just as important as head-speed? Don't know about you guys but for me to get good power: I don't swing to 'hit the shuttle', I aim to 'swing through' the shuttle if that makes sense.
You know what? Forget everything I said. I agree, all other things being equal, you want to maximize your swing speed. The only problem is, it's very difficult for all other things being equal. And I won't go into that. With all this said, I picked-up a Woven 11 yesterday and played with it for about 4 hours. It's definitely the most powerful racket I've used to date.
AT 700, MP100 then the NS8000. AT700= always gives you good smash MP100= Too hard to smash with this racket, but when you can, it will smash faster than AT700 NS8000= Fastest of all in jump-smash but its not making sense that why a headlight racket can smash that fast.
