As the continental team tournaments are being played out, I think it's interesting to revisit the qualification criteria. From the regulations link here --------------------------------------- Section 4.1 One - Trophy holder One - Host Member Association Fourteen: Semi-finalists from Asia (4) Semi-finalists from Europe (4) Winner from Africa (1) Winner from Oceania (1) Winner from PanAm (1) Next three highest ranked teams (excluding above) from the World Rankings (3) *If the trophy holder and/or Host Member Association also take part and occupy a qualifying position in its respective Continental stage, the next one or two highest ranked teams (excluding above) from the World rankings in the same continent would also qualify. -------------------------------------------- CHN and JPN automatically qualifies for Thomas Cup CHN automatically qualifies for Uber Cup * Since CHN are both Holder & Host, I'm assuming (regulations are not clear; I could be wrong) they will take 4 (instead of 3) highest ranked teams outside of those already qualified
Section 4.2 Qualification & Seeding: 4.2.1 In addition to the holders & hosts and continental qualifiers, three (3) participating teams will qualify based on the overall strength of the team. All participating teams will be seeded based on the overall strength of the team. 4.2.2 The overall strength of the team will be determined based on the World Ranking list as stated in the time lines in Annexure I. 4.2.3 Total ranking points of the three highest ranked singles players and two doubles pairs from each country shall be compared to determine the overall strength of the team. Where no world ranking is available the ranking points will be taken as zero. 4.2.4 By this determination all the participating teams will be ranked in their order of strength. Annexure 1 1st Thursday of March - World Ranking Date for the purpose of deciding the Seeding for Group Play BWF ---------------------------------------------------- Now, this is interesting. There are no published rankings (as far as I know) as stated in 4.2.3 above, although the derivation of the ranking is pretty straight-forward. Also, I'm assuming (I could be wrong) that the ranking on the 1st Thu of March (Week 9) is also used to determine the rest of the teams (the last 3 or 4 teams) that will qualify from team ranking. Once again the regulations did not state explicitly.
So, I wrote a program to trawl through the official ranking pages and compiled into the following rankings (based on Week 7 - fresh out of oven). I suppose there won't be significant changes from Week 7 till Week 9, but I will publish the Week 9 rankings when we have it. Here it is Code: BWF Men's Team (Week 2016/7) RANK | COUNTRY | SGLE1 | SGLE2 | SGLE3 | DBLE1 | DBLE2 | TOTAL PTS 1 | CHN | 96931 | 74277 | 60230 | 74647 | 71775 | 377860 2 | DEN | 75967 | 71219 | 40790 | 73440 | 63207 | 324623 3 | KOR | 52475 | 49930 | 41583 | 94130 | 65469 | 303587 4 | INA | 56010 | 41930 | 34860 | 83927 | 54550 | 271277 5 | JPN | 74853 | 41500 | 36476 | 65927 | 44920 | 263676 6 | MAS | 77153 | 32530 | 32420 | 51248 | 47650 | 241001 7 | IND | 58534 | 46241 | 40940 | 44070 | 33186 | 222971 8 | TPE | 62548 | 41378 | 26080 | 51351 | 41400 | 222757 9 | HKG | 52602 | 48318 | 46390 | 23950 | 22875 | 194135 10 | THA | 40997 | 36364 | 19000 | 34200 | 34070 | 164631 11 | ENG | 45636 | 18643 | 13700 | 39666 | 33075 | 150720 12 | GER | 43523 | 18865 | 13441 | 36246 | 26201 | 138276 13 | FRA | 34498 | 25039 | 22166 | 27868 | 22200 | 131771 14 | RUS | 28723 | 11870 | 9980 | 52408 | 19040 | 122021 15 | USA | 24522 | 18707 | 15429 | 31727 | 17900 | 108285 16 | POL | 23925 | 18210 | 9300 | 36716 | 13920 | 102071 17 | BRA | 23845 | 19575 | 16730 | 21241 | 11768 | 93159 18 | MEX | 19800 | 18420 | 16480 | 27780 | 6060 | 88540 19 | UKR | 24530 | 22810 | 14840 | 14490 | 3570 | 80240 20 | SIN | 28915 | 11640 | 2930 | 20867 | 14180 | 78532 21 | CAN | 21650 | 9653 | 4950 | 27882 | 13750 | 77885 22 | AUT | 24869 | 23828 | 13089 | 9351 | 4970 | 76107 23 | BEL | 25147 | 16720 | 2960 | 25366 | 2740 | 72933 24 | ITA | 17883 | 17560 | 12990 | 20588 | 2890 | 71911 25 | GUA | 30240 | 10660 | 7660 | 17210 | 3650 | 69420 26 | CZE | 22963 | 20376 | 14569 | 4890 | 4450 | 67248 27 | AUS | 11287 | 10820 | 9660 | 24324 | 10920 | 67011 28 | ESP | 32381 | 19599 | 6420 | 5200 | 1520 | 65120 29 | FIN | 21650 | 17970 | 14090 | 5690 | 3390 | 62790 30 | NED | 17320 | 15050 | 12806 | 8850 | 8570 | 62596 31 | TUR | 16510 | 12130 | 9650 | 19799 | 3570 | 61659 32 | EGY | 12144 | 10006 | 7550 | 20350 | 9570 | 59620 33 | SCO | 14996 | 8850 | 5810 | 22110 | 7360 | 59126 34 | SWE | 22850 | 16740 | 11910 | 5170 | 2030 | 58700 35 | RSA | 20344 | 11902 | 1570 | 23224 | 1370 | 58410 36 | IRL | 28953 | 5720 | 360 | 15850 | 1370 | 52253 37 | VIE | 31850 | 8827 | 4320 | 4280 | 2400 | 51677 38 | PER | 8390 | 7990 | 3990 | 14350 | 10640 | 45360 39 | IRI | 12190 | 12020 | 2200 | 16270 | 2200 | 44880 40 | PHI | 1434 | 920 | 910 | 18946 | 18764 | 40974 41 | ISR | 24768 | 3620 | 1110 | 4330 | 3570 | 37398 42 | EST | 29790 | 780 | 620 | 2390 | 2190 | 35770 43 | DOM | 9300 | 7560 | 1520 | 14360 | 2290 | 35030 44 | CUB | 25220 | 1430 | 1060 | 3950 | 1370 | 33030 45 | NZL | 8970 | 5190 | 4810 | 7240 | 6440 | 32650 46 | CRO | 11390 | 1210 | 870 | 14700 | 3640 | 31810 47 | SLO | 15310 | 11800 | 730 | 2210 | 1370 | 31420 48 | ALG | 6560 | 5506 | 4462 | 12384 | 2460 | 31372 49 | NGR | 7214 | 6335 | 4400 | 6296 | 5928 | 30173 50 | UZB | 11710 | 6250 | 1250 | 10580 | 0 | 29790 51 | SRI | 15870 | 12220 | 360 | 360 | 360 | 29170 52 | BUL | 12420 | 4150 | 3860 | 5010 | 3650 | 29090 53 | POR | 18730 | 2790 | 1740 | 3010 | 2300 | 28570 54 | NOR | 20190 | 670 | 530 | 3890 | 2860 | 28140 55 | SUI | 5550 | 4593 | 4550 | 8130 | 4180 | 27003 56 | SVK | 13250 | 11290 | 550 | 1080 | 650 | 26820 57 | UGA | 19733 | 2070 | 1870 | 1370 | 1370 | 26413 58 | LTU | 19220 | 2760 | 770 | 2690 | 700 | 26140 59 | CHI | 5520 | 3510 | 2710 | 7030 | 2800 | 21570 60 | MRI | 6156 | 5033 | 1357 | 6073 | 2920 | 21539 61 | JAM | 7520 | 2860 | 1720 | 4730 | 2340 | 19170 62 | ARG | 3810 | 2810 | 2470 | 6240 | 2670 | 18000 63 | KAZ | 5180 | 3180 | 310 | 6874 | 1370 | 16914 64 | HUN | 7260 | 7160 | 510 | 550 | 100 | 15580 65 | GHA | 3581 | 2120 | 1686 | 3622 | 2090 | 13099 66 | VEN | 4460 | 2310 | 550 | 4030 | 1370 | 12720 67 | AZE | 1150 | 1060 | 430 | 8450 | 1520 | 12610 68 | SRB | 4290 | 1550 | 920 | 2940 | 2760 | 12460 69 | SUR | 2620 | 2510 | 1810 | 3210 | 1370 | 11520 70 | TRI | 5680 | 1450 | 700 | 1750 | 1750 | 11330 71 | ISL | 7914 | 550 | 210 | 1469 | 920 | 11063 72 | BRN | 1730 | 1470 | 1280 | 3570 | 2290 | 10340 73 | NEP | 5600 | 920 | 530 | 1520 | 1520 | 10090 74 | BOT | 3423 | 1100 | 910 | 3590 | 920 | 9943 75 | PAK | 2640 | 1280 | 1280 | 3570 | 920 | 9690 76 | GRE | 740 | 430 | 380 | 6100 | 1470 | 9120 77 | ZAM | 2390 | 1650 | 1100 | 1840 | 1370 | 8350 78 | BAR | 2330 | 1470 | 1150 | 1970 | 1370 | 8290 79 | ETH | 2280 | 1830 | 1830 | 1370 | 922 | 8232 80 | JOR | 1520 | 1150 | 550 | 3550 | 1370 | 8140 81 | CYP | 1470 | 1140 | 140 | 3910 | 1370 | 8030 82 | WAL | 6190 | 390 | 360 | 170 | 0 | 7110 83 | KEN | 2620 | 2070 | 550 | 920 | 550 | 6710 84 | MGL | 1370 | 1270 | 550 | 1920 | 920 | 6030 85 | IRQ | 1280 | 1170 | 920 | 1520 | 920 | 5810 86 | CGO | 3125 | 360 | 360 | 920 | 920 | 5685 87 | BAN | 920 | 920 | 920 | 1520 | 920 | 5200 88 | SEY | 377 | 362 | 0 | 4326 | 2 | 5067 89 | MAR | 1030 | 720 | 550 | 1370 | 1370 | 5040 90 | NCL | 920 | 920 | 760 | 1470 | 920 | 4990 91 | TGA | 1290 | 1290 | 0 | 2110 | 0 | 4690 92 | MAC | 1700 | 660 | 660 | 660 | 430 | 4110 93 | LUX | 3090 | 70 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 4080 94 | BLR | 590 | 400 | 70 | 2530 | 0 | 3590 95 | MDV | 1430 | 210 | 100 | 920 | 920 | 3580 96 | COL | 550 | 550 | 550 | 920 | 920 | 3490 97 | GUY | 1980 | 100 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 3000 98 | NAM | 920 | 920 | 210 | 920 | 0 | 2970 99 | ESA | 680 | 170 | 170 | 920 | 920 | 2860 100 | ECU | 930 | 550 | 0 | 1370 | 0 | 2850 101 | SYR | 2840 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2840 102 | PUR | 1100 | 550 | 550 | 550 | 0 | 2750 103 | LAT | 1400 | 130 | 120 | 700 | 350 | 2700 104 | PYF | 1290 | 210 | 210 | 550 | 0 | 2260 105 | TKM | 170 | 70 | 70 | 920 | 920 | 2150 106 | AFG | 920 | 70 | 70 | 920 | 0 | 1980 107 | ROU | 270 | 210 | 210 | 550 | 550 | 1790 108 | KSA | 210 | 210 | 210 | 550 | 550 | 1730 109 | COD | 360 | 360 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 1640 110 | BRU | 1230 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1230 111 | TJK | 550 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 550 112 | REU | 550 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 550 113 | ARM | 360 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 360 114 | PAN | 350 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 350 115 | BEN | 70 | 70 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 140 116 | MLT | 110 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 110 117 | GUM | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 118 | COK | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 Code: BWF Women's Team (Week 2016/7) RANK | COUNTRY | SGLE1 | SGLE2 | SGLE3 | DBLE1 | DBLE2 | TOTAL PTS 1 | CHN | 74767 | 72238 | 70610 | 74640 | 57270 | 349525 2 | JPN | 68354 | 56925 | 48440 | 72579 | 50750 | 297048 3 | KOR | 71738 | 47406 | 34830 | 62110 | 59060 | 275144 4 | THA | 73807 | 45715 | 40990 | 40900 | 40585 | 241997 5 | IND | 76522 | 52200 | 18080 | 46314 | 27980 | 221096 6 | INA | 41450 | 39775 | 25410 | 72592 | 34060 | 213287 7 | TPE | 65250 | 39770 | 33230 | 30160 | 28390 | 196800 8 | DEN | 34682 | 27187 | 27070 | 72380 | 23840 | 185159 9 | GER | 37734 | 31520 | 15960 | 37560 | 37036 | 159810 10 | MAS | 33430 | 19040 | 17980 | 47324 | 36650 | 154424 11 | ESP | 91192 | 31585 | 13232 | 9050 | 3210 | 148269 12 | HKG | 38808 | 34545 | 5719 | 41480 | 20560 | 141112 13 | USA | 33545 | 33160 | 32730 | 36841 | 2810 | 139086 14 | NED | 24096 | 12470 | 3160 | 54025 | 33022 | 126773 15 | TUR | 24932 | 23367 | 18000 | 32898 | 19820 | 119017 16 | BUL | 31060 | 25190 | 7120 | 44680 | 2070 | 110120 17 | RUS | 25439 | 25103 | 14910 | 27692 | 16970 | 110114 18 | CAN | 46687 | 22169 | 8190 | 26938 | 3850 | 107834 19 | ENG | 19805 | 16800 | 9730 | 36119 | 20760 | 103214 20 | BRA | 24803 | 22669 | 8040 | 29383 | 16332 | 101227 21 | AUS | 23690 | 21449 | 15950 | 25220 | 8672 | 94981 22 | SIN | 27996 | 24749 | 7440 | 23617 | 5990 | 89792 23 | FRA | 22433 | 18717 | 3480 | 21244 | 20780 | 86654 24 | EGY | 19622 | 10738 | 10660 | 19733 | 14300 | 75053 25 | MEX | 18840 | 14950 | 14660 | 18750 | 7460 | 74660 26 | FIN | 21080 | 20900 | 7630 | 11440 | 8410 | 69460 27 | CZE | 29950 | 16969 | 9080 | 5560 | 4230 | 65789 28 | PER | 16190 | 9330 | 7940 | 15860 | 12220 | 61540 29 | UKR | 23930 | 6570 | 5860 | 16740 | 5540 | 58640 30 | VIE | 25642 | 8230 | 6540 | 10292 | 7840 | 58544 31 | SCO | 44837 | 5070 | 510 | 5050 | 2390 | 57857 32 | EST | 20260 | 11490 | 8100 | 10690 | 5210 | 55750 33 | IRI | 17600 | 12060 | 2290 | 20620 | 2200 | 54770 34 | SUI | 25402 | 8320 | 7560 | 9660 | 1750 | 52692 35 | BEL | 23550 | 9580 | 7300 | 10495 | 1100 | 52025 36 | HUN | 22900 | 6510 | 4870 | 5510 | 2200 | 41990 37 | IRL | 24993 | 3561 | 3220 | 7741 | 920 | 40435 38 | NGR | 20596 | 6104 | 2440 | 4932 | 3952 | 38024 39 | MRI | 22245 | 2884 | 2790 | 6967 | 920 | 35806 40 | AUT | 23106 | 3460 | 3450 | 2882 | 1470 | 34368 41 | NZL | 10210 | 5010 | 4800 | 6700 | 6030 | 32750 42 | LAT | 11290 | 9010 | 4460 | 4940 | 2370 | 32070 43 | ITA | 24707 | 1418 | 710 | 2990 | 920 | 30745 44 | SWE | 6930 | 4210 | 3343 | 11990 | 2670 | 29143 45 | POR | 21070 | 5260 | 550 | 920 | 550 | 28350 46 | SVK | 13620 | 10500 | 200 | 900 | 350 | 25570 47 | RSA | 5608 | 5510 | 1830 | 6070 | 5845 | 24863 48 | LTU | 17500 | 2360 | 730 | 1820 | 920 | 23330 49 | ARG | 4920 | 4920 | 3440 | 9790 | 0 | 23070 50 | POL | 10940 | 7027 | 1950 | 1370 | 920 | 22207 51 | GUA | 11080 | 3030 | 1840 | 3630 | 1750 | 21330 52 | DOM | 6320 | 3620 | 3290 | 4700 | 2670 | 20600 53 | WAL | 9060 | 6110 | 5340 | 0 | 0 | 20510 54 | BLR | 13760 | 2170 | 1400 | 3090 | 0 | 20420 55 | CHI | 4500 | 4270 | 1470 | 6620 | 3120 | 19980 56 | SRI | 7905 | 5947 | 920 | 2200 | 1520 | 18492 57 | CRO | 9930 | 3470 | 3210 | 920 | 920 | 18450 58 | ZAM | 6600 | 4290 | 3860 | 1750 | 1370 | 17870 59 | GRE | 6400 | 2570 | 1460 | 4650 | 1840 | 16920 60 | KAZ | 11480 | 1920 | 920 | 1370 | 920 | 16610 61 | ROU | 10180 | 2040 | 100 | 1100 | 550 | 13970 62 | SLO | 4370 | 2630 | 1530 | 2940 | 2290 | 13760 63 | UGA | 6636 | 2370 | 2080 | 1370 | 922 | 13378 64 | PHI | 2367 | 2021 | 550 | 4960 | 1840 | 11738 65 | UZB | 1870 | 1360 | 720 | 7360 | 0 | 11310 66 | PAK | 2940 | 2020 | 1470 | 4330 | 0 | 10760 67 | SEY | 1530 | 1522 | 1520 | 5840 | 2 | 10414 68 | KEN | 3300 | 1840 | 550 | 4640 | 0 | 10330 69 | TRI | 2620 | 2270 | 1150 | 3120 | 920 | 10080 70 | JAM | 4320 | 2480 | 920 | 2110 | 0 | 9830 71 | ETH | 3030 | 2390 | 920 | 1750 | 1522 | 9612 72 | CUB | 1880 | 1880 | 1880 | 2110 | 1370 | 9120 73 | MAC | 4030 | 750 | 320 | 1840 | 1670 | 8610 74 | JOR | 2090 | 1520 | 920 | 2130 | 1750 | 8410 75 | BRN | 1470 | 1470 | 550 | 2890 | 1750 | 8130 76 | GHA | 3470 | 1600 | 530 | 1370 | 920 | 7890 77 | BAN | 1520 | 1520 | 920 | 1520 | 1520 | 7000 78 | SUR | 1470 | 1470 | 920 | 1750 | 920 | 6530 79 | NEP | 1520 | 920 | 920 | 1520 | 1520 | 6400 80 | BOT | 2240 | 1730 | 1370 | 920 | 0 | 6260 81 | NOR | 1100 | 770 | 650 | 1850 | 1840 | 6210 82 | BAR | 3720 | 1840 | 600 | 0 | 0 | 6160 83 | ISL | 1772 | 1310 | 550 | 1370 | 550 | 5552 84 | COL | 920 | 920 | 550 | 1370 | 1370 | 5130 85 | ESA | 2110 | 360 | 360 | 2200 | 0 | 5030 86 | COK | 1290 | 1290 | 0 | 2110 | 0 | 4690 87 | ARM | 1840 | 530 | 360 | 920 | 920 | 4570 88 | MGL | 550 | 550 | 550 | 1370 | 1370 | 4390 89 | MAR | 550 | 550 | 550 | 1370 | 920 | 3940 90 | SRB | 3260 | 550 | 100 | 0 | 0 | 3910 91 | ECU | 3450 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3450 92 | ISR | 1507 | 920 | 920 | 0 | 0 | 3347 93 | ALG | 1530 | 360 | 360 | 922 | 2 | 3174 94 | PUR | 1370 | 1100 | 550 | 0 | 0 | 3020 95 | CGO | 360 | 360 | 360 | 920 | 920 | 2920 96 | VEN | 2800 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2800 97 | NCL | 920 | 920 | 920 | 0 | 0 | 2760 98 | AZE | 920 | 920 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 2760 99 | TGA | 550 | 550 | 0 | 1370 | 0 | 2470 100 | MDV | 550 | 550 | 210 | 920 | 0 | 2230 101 | PYF | 550 | 550 | 0 | 550 | 0 | 1650 102 | COD | 360 | 360 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 1640 103 | IRQ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1520 | 0 | 1520 104 | TKM | 360 | 0 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 1280 105 | AFG | 0 | 0 | 0 | 920 | 0 | 920 106 | SYR | 880 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 880 107 | PAN | 600 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 600 108 | TJK | 550 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 550 109 | GUY | 510 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 510 110 | MLT | 270 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 270 111 | BEN | 170 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 170 112 | CYP | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 113 | LUX | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 114 | KSA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 115 | NAM | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 116 | GUM | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 117 | BRU | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 118 | REU | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Thomas Cup qualification Holder (1): JPN Host (1): CHN Asia (4): Europe (4): Oceania (1): Africa (1): Americas (1): Team Ranking (3): Uber Cup qualification Holder & Host (1): CHN Asia (4): Europe (4): Oceania (1): Africa (1): Americas (1): Team Ranking (4*): * Since CHN are both Holder & Host, I'm assuming they will take 4 highest ranked teams outside of those already qualified
Say you are interested in whether HKG will qualify, well let's take a look. Thomas Cup An educated guess may say KOR, JPN, INA and IND would be the SF'ists of the ongoing Asian team championship. In such a scenario, since JPN is the title-holder, then MAS becomes the 4th team to qualify from the continent, since they are the highest ranked after CHN, KOR, INA and JPN. Assuming DEN qualifies from Europe, clearly TPE, HKG and THA will be the 3 highest ranked nations outside of those who already qualified. There are other scenarios to consider, but in all likelihood, HKG would qualify for the Finals. Code: 1 | CHN | 96931 | 74277 | 60230 | 74647 | 71775 | 377860 2 | DEN | 75967 | 71219 | 40790 | 73440 | 63207 | 324623 3 | KOR | 52475 | 49930 | 41583 | 94130 | 65469 | 303587 4 | INA | 56010 | 41930 | 34860 | 83927 | 54550 | 271277 5 | JPN | 74853 | 41500 | 36476 | 65927 | 44920 | 263676 6 | MAS | 77153 | 32530 | 32420 | 51248 | 47650 | 241001 7 | IND | 58534 | 46241 | 40940 | 44070 | 33186 | 222971 8 | TPE | 62548 | 41378 | 26080 | 51351 | 41400 | 222757 9 | HKG | 52602 | 48318 | 46390 | 23950 | 22875 | 194135 10 | THA | 40997 | 36364 | 19000 | 34200 | 34070 | 164631 Uber Cup One possibility will be a CHN, KOR, THA, JPN SF'ists from the Asian continental champs. Since CHN already qualified, then IND will take its place. Now, what plays out in Europe becomes very important. Assuming DEN and GER are SF'ists from Europe, then the remaining 4 highest ranked are INA, TPE, MAS and ESP (Spain). If ESP can be among the SF'ists, then HKG gets the ticket. But if they can't, then no spot for HKG. (This is only true based on several assumptions I make from previous posts.) Code: 1 | CHN | 74767 | 72238 | 70610 | 74640 | 57270 | 349525 2 | JPN | 68354 | 56925 | 48440 | 72579 | 50750 | 297048 3 | KOR | 71738 | 47406 | 34830 | 62110 | 59060 | 275144 4 | THA | 73807 | 45715 | 40990 | 40900 | 40585 | 241997 5 | IND | 76522 | 52200 | 18080 | 46314 | 27980 | 221096 6 | INA | 41450 | 39775 | 25410 | 72592 | 34060 | 213287 7 | TPE | 65250 | 39770 | 33230 | 30160 | 28390 | 196800 8 | DEN | 34682 | 27187 | 27070 | 72380 | 23840 | 185159 9 | GER | 37734 | 31520 | 15960 | 37560 | 37036 | 159810 10 | MAS | 33430 | 19040 | 17980 | 47324 | 36650 | 154424 11 | ESP | 91192 | 31585 | 13232 | 9050 | 3210 | 148269 12 | HKG | 38808 | 34545 | 5719 | 41480 | 20560 | 141112
I hate it when strong nations are left out because of a system that favors crappy nations (badminton wise crappy nations)
Spain will be in the SF for sure!! If its Eur(4) then Den, Ger and Eng/Ned/Russ/ESP (any two) will qualify!! In which case I am sure CM can drag her team on the podium
Just imagine team HKG is having problems to qualify even after having good Singles player like Cheung N Y and YPY etc OTOH team Nigeria, AUS/NZL and USA/CAN are assured due to the the rules
so, you will hate the OLY qualification system even more as potentially the No3 of 4 best palyers could be left out if their nation is too good.
Everyone's got an opinion and mine is that in a 16-team tournament, it's good to have a team each from Oceania, Africa and Americas. This is common, e.g. like in Soccer World Cup Finals, probably up to 2 or 3 teams from Asia may not deserve the place. My grouse of the current rule is that Europe should not be given the same amount of places as Asia. Two or at most three is fair.
I'm not sure how much of this rule is governed by Olympics overall regulations. If you're complaining about BWF World Champs, then I agree with you, since the regulations are totally under the domain of BWF.
Thomas Cup qualification Holder (1): JPN Host (1): CHN Asia (4): KOR INA IND MAS replacing JPN (highest ranked team in Asia outside of the above) Europe (4): DEN ENG GER FRA Oceania (1): awaiting winner Africa (1): awaiting winner Americas (1): awaiting winner Team Ranking (3): TPE HKG THA Uber Cup qualification Holder & Host (1): CHN Asia (4): JPN KOR THA IND replacing CHN (highest ranked team in Asia outside of the above) Europe (4): DEN ESP GER TUR or BUL - ongoing QF tie Oceania (1): awaiting winner Africa (1): awaiting winner Americas (1): awaiting winner Team Ranking (4*): INA TPE MAS HKG * Since CHN are both Holder & Host, I'm assuming they will take 4 highest ranked teams outside of those already qualified * Team ranking based on Week 7 (should be based on Week 9) * Note that the above qualifying list is not official and based on certain assumptions, but which I think will likely match the official list later. Apologies if I turn out to be wrong.
Code: BWF Men's Team (Week 2016/7) RANK | COUNTRY | SGLE1 | SGLE2 | SGLE3 | DBLE1 | DBLE2 | TOTAL PTS 1 | CHN | 96931 | 74277 | 60230 | 74647 | 71775 | 377860 2 | DEN | 75967 | 71219 | 40790 | 73440 | 63207 | 324623 3 | KOR | 52475 | 49930 | 41583 | 94130 | 65469 | 303587 4 | INA | 56010 | 41930 | 34860 | 83927 | 54550 | 271277 5 | JPN | 74853 | 41500 | 36476 | 65927 | 44920 | 263676 6 | MAS | 77153 | 32530 | 32420 | 51248 | 47650 | 241001 7 | IND | 58534 | 46241 | 40940 | 44070 | 33186 | 222971 8 | TPE | 62548 | 41378 | 26080 | 51351 | 41400 | 222757 9 | HKG | 52602 | 48318 | 46390 | 23950 | 22875 | 194135 10 | THA | 40997 | 36364 | 19000 | 34200 | 34070 | 164631 11 | ENG | 45636 | 18643 | 13700 | 39666 | 33075 | 150720 12 | GER | 43523 | 18865 | 13441 | 36246 | 26201 | 138276 13 | FRA | 34498 | 25039 | 22166 | 27868 | 22200 | 131771 14 | RUS | 28723 | 11870 | 9980 | 52408 | 19040 | 122021 15 | USA | 24522 | 18707 | 15429 | 31727 | 17900 | 108285 16 | POL | 23925 | 18210 | 9300 | 36716 | 13920 | 102071 Talking about fairness, the European teams who qualified are in the top 16, that's fair. RUS and POL will feel hard done by, as they give their places to African and Oceanian teams. USA will not qualify as they cannot enter the final of their continental champs, so they give way to either Canada or Mexico.
Code: BWF Women's Team (Week 2016/7) RANK | COUNTRY | SGLE1 | SGLE2 | SGLE3 | DBLE1 | DBLE2 | TOTAL PTS 1 | CHN | 74767 | 72238 | 70610 | 74640 | 57270 | 349525 2 | JPN | 68354 | 56925 | 48440 | 72579 | 50750 | 297048 3 | KOR | 71738 | 47406 | 34830 | 62110 | 59060 | 275144 4 | THA | 73807 | 45715 | 40990 | 40900 | 40585 | 241997 5 | IND | 76522 | 52200 | 18080 | 46314 | 27980 | 221096 6 | INA | 41450 | 39775 | 25410 | 72592 | 34060 | 213287 7 | TPE | 65250 | 39770 | 33230 | 30160 | 28390 | 196800 8 | DEN | 34682 | 27187 | 27070 | 72380 | 23840 | 185159 9 | GER | 37734 | 31520 | 15960 | 37560 | 37036 | 159810 10 | MAS | 33430 | 19040 | 17980 | 47324 | 36650 | 154424 11 | ESP | 91192 | 31585 | 13232 | 9050 | 3210 | 148269 12 | HKG | 38808 | 34545 | 5719 | 41480 | 20560 | 141112 13 | USA | 33545 | 33160 | 32730 | 36841 | 2810 | 139086 14 | NED | 24096 | 12470 | 3160 | 54025 | 33022 | 126773 15 | TUR | 24932 | 23367 | 18000 | 32898 | 19820 | 119017 16 | BUL | 31060 | 25190 | 7120 | 44680 | 2070 | 110120 On the Uber side, similarly all the qualified European teams are in the top 16. NED and (either BUL or TUR) give way to African and Oceanian winners. USA either have to win in their continent, or give way to a counterpart.
All Asian teams in the top 16 qualified for the Thomas / Uber Cup Finals, on account of them being ranked higher than the European teams who are at/near the bottom of the top-16 table. Fair? I think so. It's bad for the game if we rarely see teams outside of Asia and Europe in the world competition. It's only 2 places out of 16. (Americas have a spot in each of the men top-16 and women top-16, so you can't say USA/CAN is unfairlyt taking your place).
Update: BUL through to Uber (TUR out) Thomas Cup qualification Holder (1): JPN Host (1): CHN Asia (4): KOR INA IND MAS replacing JPN (highest ranked team in Asia outside of the above) Europe (4): DEN ENG GER FRA Oceania (1): awaiting winner Africa (1): awaiting winner Americas (1): awaiting winner Team Ranking (3): TPE HKG THA Uber Cup qualification Holder & Host (1): CHN Asia (4): JPN KOR THA IND replacing CHN (highest ranked team in Asia outside of the above) Europe (4): DEN ESP GER BUL Oceania (1): awaiting winner Africa (1): awaiting winner Americas (1): awaiting winner Team Ranking (4*): INA TPE MAS HKG * Since CHN are both Holder & Host, I'm assuming they will take 4 highest ranked teams outside of those already qualified * Team ranking based on Week 7 (should be based on Week 9) * Note that the above qualifying list is not official and based on certain assumptions, but which I think will likely match the official list later. Apologies if I turn out to be wrong.
Asian teams in the top-16 are the same for both men and women. East Asia: CHN, KOR, JPN, TPE, HKG South-east Asia: INA, THA, MAS South Asia: IND All qualified to both Thomas and Uber. Other Asian teams actually lag quite far behind (SIN, VIE being the closest).
Yes I hate the Olympics, I think the individual Olympics should be of the same format as the WC. I want to modify the Olympics in a different way also, read my thread about it if you want http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/156298-Should-the-Olympics-have-a-team-event-for-badminton-also?highlight=
