could we discuss something more intelligent than shaking hands? Everyone can shake hands, it's not a competition about who can shake hands more often, who can shake hands longer, who can shake hands harder, or who can shake hands more enthusiastic. it is a game who can smash harder, who can drop shots closer, who can deliver victory more consistent.
to add, with all the influenza going around, it is highly advisable to refrain from shaking hands with anyone's sweaty hand after games. If luking chases after u to shake hand, run... run away fast.....
I think all of LD, LCW, TH, PG, BCL, CJ, SDK, PSH are all super series level players. Why? Because they're the ones who are expected to win against all players in the world except for within that grouping....it's only okay for them to lose if it's another SS level player. LD and LCW are a cut above the rest, so they win all of the time, but that shouldn't say that the others aren't SS level players. And don't bring up the shaking hands thing...why are we talking about past grudges and stuff? Taufik has accepted his loss, though he looks to the future saying that he will try to turn the tables the next time. No big deal. I dont' understand why there's all of the arguing going on in this thread about stuff like that...
That's not the point. Your orginal post made it sound like LD never wanted to shake hands with LCW, which I already proved you were wrong (but you still refuse to admit it). You are just denying your prejudice towards LD. If LD was arrogant as you claimed, he probably would've done this so call "handshake refusal" many times in his career, right? So go find another game LD didn't shake hands with his opponent. Oops, I bet you can't. In all the tournaments LD lost, LD always went to the net to congratulate the other player after the loss, whether his opponent was a top ranking player or an unknown guy.
Great to find Taufik not thinking that he cannot defeat Lin Dan in future matches . That's true, koo_fan. Taufik (or any other players and coaches) will need to rethink how to defeat Lin Dan. Yes, credits should be given to Lin Dan. Currently, Lin Dan's great form is just too much for all his challengers. It's great to find Taufik not thinking that he will never be able to defeat Lin Dan in future matches. .
Taufik is a tricky player, he plays mind games with Lin Dan . That's exactly it. Badminton (like all other sporting events) is a game of not just physical, but mental as well. Mind games play a very important role. .
But but but!... that's exactly what I was saying wasn't it!? I'm starting to wonder what point you're trying to make here. What's the past got to do with the present? If "Super Series level" is the point you're trying to make, then I think only current form really matters. All I was saying was that he's been consistent this year and that I hope he still will be in coming years. I don't really care how other people define "consistent". There's a lot of room for interpretation so it's not really worth debating what it actually means as it's obviously going to be different from person to person. For the last time... yes. Currently (and probably permanently) Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei are generally a level above Taufik. So what? I just can't understand how your standards are so high. Especially living in a non-badminton country like me. I'm happy enough with our players even making it to the main draw... Even our All Blacks haven't had a very good year, but I'm still happy with how they're doing. So yeah, I sure am happy with Taufik's runner up finishes. I don't limit my enjoyment of others' success to only the best of the best. I support many players regardless of level. He has a better attitude... Yeah I'm sure there are others. There are also a few players below Taufik's level that have managed it. Are those players Super Series standard? I'd say yes! How can you win a tournament if you're not up to standard :S?
Chris...TH and others like CJ, SDK, Simon, BCL, Gade are Super series players adn whoever makes it to the main draw of SS..I do not see how you said that TH is not super series player...thats a bit crazy...!!
Yep, but there is one person cutting the list down to 2 names only because his book has only one page may be
Taufik still can win SS title more easily. But he had to be selective about the Ss events he play. Play SS events where his nemesis did not participates. (His nemesis are LD, LCW and BCL where he lost much more than win against) Example; Denmark Open 09 where LD, LCW and BCL did not enter. If he play Simon S in final, he had a very good chance to win. And sometimes hope for the luck of the draw. Simon Santoso win SS Denmark Open without had to play any of the top 10 players.
Although I am not agree with Chris that said only LD and LCW are SS level players. I do think others also had the quality of SS level players but not as good as LD and LCW. But for so long now, if LD and LCW play in the same SS event together, the winner will either be LD or LCW. No one can defeat both of them in the same time recently to win an SS tournament.
Yes there is. The Most Pickers Match -------------Matches-----------------------Picks---Win--Loss Elizabeth.Cann....... vs Shixian.Wang......._53..._53...__0 Chunlai.Bao.......... vs Peter.Hoeg.Gade.[2]_53...__0..._53 Joachim.Persson.[6].. vs Simon.Santoso......_52...__2..._50 Yun.Hu............... vs Przemyslaw.Wacha..._51..._49...__2 P.T.Wong/E.H.Chin.[1] vs Jin.Ma/Xiaoli.Wang._50..._50...__0 Olga.Konon.(Q)....... vs Kristina.Ludikova.(_48..._48...__0 Ella.Diehl........... vs Jie.Yao............_47..._45...__2 Jin.Ma/Xiaoli.Wang.[5 vs Polii/Maheswari.[8]_47..._44...__3 Adriyanti.Firdasari.. vs Larisa.Griga......._44..._43...__1 Chunlai.Bao.......... vs Sony.Dwi.Kuncoro.[5_44..._44...__0 Aditi.Mutatkar....... vs Anu.Nieminen......._43...__0..._43 Long.Chen............ vs Rajiv.Ouseph......._42..._42...__0 Megumi.Taruno........ vs Linda.Zechiri......_41..._40...__1 Hanbin.He/Yang.Yu.[5] vs Fischer/Pedersen.[4_41..._36...__5 Dan.Lin.[1].......... vs Jin.Chen.[3]......._41..._41...__0 Yihan.Wang.[3]....... vs Hongyan.Pi.[5]....._40..._39...__1 Dan.Lin.[1].......... vs Taufik.Hidayat.[4]._40..._40...__0
cooler, please stop trolling. PAW does not determine the outcome. If probability and public opinion were what decided results then the betting industry would not exist. Also, your own post is contradictory - Chunlai.Bao.......... vs Peter.Hoeg.Gade.[2]_53...__0..._53 Aditi.Mutatkar....... vs Anu.Nieminen......._43...__0..._43
I was one of the 53 PAWers to pick Bao Chunlai to defeat Peter Gade . I was one of the 53 PAWers to pick Bao Chunlai to defeat Peter Gade. It's not that Peter Gade is weaker player; but it's because there were 13 PAW points for picking Bao Chunlai, compared to 8 for Peter Gade. .
