My heart MELTS when i watch this. PLEASE WATCH

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  1. victory

    victory Regular Member

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    George I don't like what you have written here" LCW must be thinking why the world is do cruel to him...."

    As a sportsman that keep fighting and improving, I don't think LCW has this kind of attitude and negative thinking. You are the one that think this way.If he is weak, he would have left national team long ago like Tan Chung Seang.

    He was just experiencing muscle cramp!

    I for one think he did very well and he is ready to take Olympic gold. I don't understand why you are you crying. Worst still, you make it look like LCW is crying! Goodness gracious............:confused: I don't understand.
     
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    Badmintan Regular Member

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    It goes to show the price one has to pay to reach the top. LCW paid his dues to be where he is right now, no shortcuts and no self pity.

    LCW man up anyway and never complain this complain that.
     
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    George is crying undestandable, crying in sadness for his hero, who lost so close. Fans also heartbreak and :crying::crying:. LCW was just "Ouch, Ouch!" in pain from the cramps.

    After the treatment, LCW meet reporters, one of the 1st thing he mentioned was to apologise for not getting the title for Msia.
    He didnt mention at all about his toes bleeding, Teh SB was the one who mention - to show how hard LCW fought, as Teh knows the critics will start to come down.
     
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    victory Regular Member

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    Okay okay. I will give both of you tissue when if I happen to meet you guys. You guys need to relax ya.........:)LCW still need your continue support ya.........

    Yup. LCW said he is a little disappointed but he will shift his focus to Olympic. He later said he wants to play in 2013 WC! Great spirit!

    TSB knows those critics out there will yell. That is right. Yelling is the only thing they know. What else do they know?? In fact, believe it or not, a lot of those critics out there don't even play badminton. I bet a lot of them don't even watch that match. They hear say this, they hear say that, when they hear their friends say this and that about LCW, they go ya ya ya......ya ya ya.........

    When I meet these critics, I ask them do you frequently play badminton? They go ......errr.......
    when I ask them how many match LCW played before final? They go......err...............
    When I ask them how many titles LCW won this year before WC? They go.......err...............
    when I ask them did LCW won All England this year? They go.........err...............( My father said "yes LCW won. LD let him win!:eek::D . That is my dad!)
    When I ask them what is the different between 21point and 15point? They go..........err...................
    When I ask them who else is playing single for MAS? They go......err......."Oh! Ong Ewu Hock la...:eek::D"
    When I ask them who is TSB? They go......................err.........

    Do you see my point? And they think they know a lot. They think they can coach LCW.

    When I see this moronic critics, I always like to embarrass them like hell. I enjoy it.;)
     
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    ..really??..when & where?..top viewings as in top 10? top 50? top 100? top 500?..
     
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    I'm agree and i would add: His ability to chnage tactic.

    If you see the satistics of the match you will see

    GAME1

    LCW LD
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    [TD]7
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    [TD] Smash winner
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    [TD] 6
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    [TD]7
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    [TD] Net winner
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    [TD] 3
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    [TD]5
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    [TD] Clear winner
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    [TD] 4
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    [TABLE="class: ruler"]
    [TR]
    [TD]3
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    [TD]Other[/TD]
    [TD] 7
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    GAME2


    LCW LD
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    [TD]3
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    [TD] Smash winner
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    [TD] 5
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    [TD]1
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    [TD] Net winner
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    [TD] 4
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    [TD]4
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    [TD] Clear winner
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    [TD] 6
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    [TD]6
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    GAME3

    LCW LD
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    [TD]8[/TD]
    [TD] Smash winner
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    [TD]10[/TD]
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    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD] Net winner
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    [TD]2[/TD]
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    [TD] Clear winner
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    [TD]5[/TD]
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    [TD]10[/TD]
    [TD] Other
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    [TD]6[/TD]
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    Lin Dan was clearly under LCW with the points at the net in the 1st set: 10 points won at the net and 7 of them were for LCW. After That we see that there are less point played at the net. I think that Lin dan changed his game to play at the net only when it was saved for him.

    Same thing with the clear. In the 3rd set, LCW only won 2 of them

    I'm not a specialist of tactics, but these statistic seems clear about the changes of the play
     
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    LOL LOL, this is the best way to depict the morons (who are unfortunately Malaysians as well) out there, Victory. No other way to better put it or paint a picture. This is it!

     
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    In 50s and 60s, man crying was seen as a sign of weakness. In the mid 70s to 80s, the word metropolitan and sensitive man evolved. In the 90s crying man was linked to a manly man highly in tuned with his emotional intelligence.

    If you had watched the reaction from LCW's interview after the Beijing Olympics, it was even more heart wrenching to see his deep felt disappointment. It is only natural that as a supporter who really knows and feel what he is going through, when no one wants to win more than himself, in a world where being a destructive critic is so easy than being a supportive one, you will definitely feel for him (if not cry). There is no shame is doing so. I like to add here, that I for one likes LCW's more humble ways and it also helps paint a better person (if I may say so) than LD's egoistic ways (I know he can be because he is a better player with so many titles) but I still prefer LCW's image when he can safely say he is the best player of all time someday. In fact any player who can be that best player of all time (it may even be some other foreigner) I would still prefer the hero to have a humble attitude like LCW. I admit judging who is more humble is very subjective, but I can safely bet that LCW is definitely more so than LD. I know this is a sport where the hero is worshiped. But i think i myself as a player and a supporter has evolved into a person where being the ultimate hero is not always as important as supporting your own countryman, dedicated sportsman, building badminton courts and selecting potential world class beaters as young as 15, then training them yourself. So what i am actually saying here is that you not only support him as an athlete representing your country, but most importantly, as a PERSON and HUMAN BEING. A good soul.

    For those of you who don't understand the way LCW is brought up, I don't blame you. For instance, there was once when LCW was thought to have stolen money in the training camp and was given a slap, later on he cried for being wrongly accused and his sister fought strongly with his parents to stop the training for LCW and bring him back home because she loved her brother so much. But LCW endured the pain and just grew out of the pain. Such is the character of LCW. How many of you know that?

    Of course there are other kinds of supporters. Those like moronic critics who are experts in everything but master of none. Then there are those who supports who is the current hero. It's a very easy thing to do. Support who is winning. But there is something more at play here, support your own countryman who is dedicated more than badminton players in the country. I mean i'd understand if it was Hafiz Hashim you don't support (sorry Hafiz) but common, LCW?

    But still, if you are a foreigner who supports LD and disregards LCW's achievements I will understand. But if you are a Malaysian, I really don't know what to say.



     
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    Hahaha, I almost spill my coffee.:D:D Btw, the part in blue, errrr.. LD fans also mentioned the same when LCW won AE 2011. But for some Msians, sigh, you know lah.......;)
    You can add questions like : Do you know LCW won the AE in 2010, who was the runner up? Dont think they ever heard of Kenichi Tago or which country Tago is from.
    Some, Chen Jin, Peter Gade, Taufik Hidayat also they dunno is who. Our uncle Wong Choong Hann also they dont recognise the face, going to retire already, tsk tsk :p:p

    Yeah, made me LOL, LOL, fortunately my coffee didnt spill on the keyboard
     
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    Eagle, Keyboard is very cheap nowadays. Just laugh it loud.
     
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    Ok ok relax.. that's just my natural sudden feelings.. It's ok.. Yup, LCW also did cry that day himself on the podium, no doubt about that. But i'm sure he will be back stronger and gunning for the OG12.. No need to debate so much. The WC11 already ended.
     
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    Yup. He had wet eye that day. But he always bounce back. That is why he is so strong and respectable.

    You also recovered and stop crying now as well ya?:) Good!
     
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    Yup, of course.. But u didn't supply me enough tissue and i will remember that. All the best to LCW in the Japan Open 2011..What is your prediction if he is to meet Lin dan again?
     
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    I think LCW will prevail.

    LD is a very strong opponent. In terms of badminton skills, LCW has an edge now. LD is a stroke player now. If LD is not doing his sudden attack, which he can not do it all the time currently, his game is much more predictable compare to LCW. But LD is mentally very strong and very fortunate to have strong team support which LCW doesn't have. I must also say LD surprised me( and a lot of my friends) with his net play. He has improved tremendously in this aspect.

    I think LCW has everything he needs to beat LD. In fact, after the unfortunate lost in WC, he has all the more reasons to win his match with LD.
     
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    I really do not agree.. I think LD switches tempo and plays way more unpredictable than LCW. If is a mooth point to discuss, waht about if LD does not use this weapon in his arseanl?? LCW relies much on his speed, defence and agility. Most players have no answer to his speed and defence. But from a deception standpoint i do not view LCW as one of the more deceptive players. LD, Gade, Taufik, Bao etc are much more varied/deceptive imop than LCW. LCW is more of a control player, and this is fine becuase almost no one (except Lin Dan) can penetrate his defensive armour. However I think the relative lack of a real attack-game sudden explosion, is why LCW ahs not yet been able to challenge the worlds best badminton player, on the very big occasions.
     
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    I doubt LD will even play JO (or probably loose in early rounds (just play enough to get some "safety" OG-seeding rating-points). Anyway I think LCW will be more focused on this event by his sponsor, and it may be like the last JO, where I was very dissapointed on the final.. It was obvious that LD didnt use much offensive/explosive speed at all in that match. I think it is a bit sad with players like LD / Taufik that do not put 100% into each tournament.. Kudos for LCW and Gade who always seem to want to play to their best abilities. But on the other hand I do not think it is fair to "demand" that the best pros always should "put on a 100% show of giving it their all". If we want that i think there should be bigger prizemoney in the tournaments.
     
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    Wow! our opinions are 2 poles.:)
     
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    Always interesting with difference of opinions :)

    I am curios in what aspect of the game do you think LCW excels over LD if you disregard speed/agility?

    Do you really think LCW is more of an attack player than LD? And has more deception in his shots?

    From reading the post I though we at least agreed that LD is better in the aspect of injecting pace suddenly in a rally (you frased it "sudden attack" i believe)?

    /T
     
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    Both also injects pace, just the question of who has more injection

    Both players LD and LCW employs injection of pace. It's just that one car (in terms of automotive guys, easy to understand) has more horsepower(HP) and torque (Nm) over the other.
     
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    Quite true.. Sorry If i exhaggerated. You are VERY CORRECT!

    /T
     

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