Lin Dan ( 林丹 )

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  1. Nine Tailed Fox

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    Does Mental strength grow on trees?

    Isn't your technical superiority/capability(Footwork,Net play,Overheads,Smash, Interception,Defence, Counter-Attack,Clears,lifts)the source of your Mental strength?

    What kind of Mental Strength will Lin Dan arouse if he knows he is inferior in all those above department?

    Have you seen Lin Dan's reverse slice drop shot? How many players have that shot as a major weapon in their arsenal?
     
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    Talk about Variations

     
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    mental strength is not dependent on your skills, ask any half competent sports psychologist. There are many athletes with world class skills who lack world class mental skills. LD has both, which is why he is king. Mental strength is there in a person because of a variety of factors. LD has faced lots of adversity, he has had to get through better players. His mental strength is from within, which is why he is just as mentally strong, even as his physique diminishes (He is not the explosive beast he used to be, according to your logic, that should make him mentally weaker, but he is only stronger in that way.)

    His reverse drop is nice, but any player can do it, but LD uses it more often in his game. LCW has a very nice one as well
     
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    technical skills and mental skills don't go hand in hand, both have to be earned, they are completely separate things, anybody who knows anything about sports will tell you that. To suggest otherwise is ignorance
     
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    What would Lin Dan say if he came here and read all of that?
     
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    He would drop dead instantly
     
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    Without technical skills, whatever mental strength one has is useless. Anyway, an 16 years old talking about mental strength doesn't sound right. I will listen if an 16 years is giving a lecturing about how to score high in video games.
     
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    probably he will hang out his rackets when he would read all of that comparisons!
     
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    1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

    "Ask any expert etc." is not an argument. Similarly "you're not qualified because you're 16" is not an argument. Leave these out of the discussion for clarity.

    2) mental strength is not a black and white issue - it is clearly tied to performance. A CLEAR example: Axelsen has the skills to become WC17, but cracked mentally in the Danish Open to Kidambi. He was well placed after the first set, but as soon as he doubted his skill after the second game, he was done. This argument shows mental strength can be a determining factor.

    Now take WC17 final itself as a CLEAR example. LD had no lack of mental strength - in addition to his vast experience at majors with no real pressure to win, he had even been training especially for WC17 and was getting minimum tournament points to maintain WC17 entry. In the final, he faced Axelsen, a man of lesser mental fortitude (based on his tendency to crack on 3rd setters in previous tournaments), and lost. Therefore this example shows technical skill is enough to beat even the most mentally strong players.

    Mental strength gives you consistency, but most people would argue that LCW was the more consistent player, even though mentally he is probably not as strong as LD, especially in majors.
     
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    I understand. It's just that I'm used to seeing LCW as a kind of climax for an LD tournament (and vice versa)...
    I guess I just don't want to see them face at QF and then the winner losing the next day at the SF. But yes, these kind of matches from the greats are always a treat! :D
     
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    Indeed, being treated to LCW/LD Rio OG semifinal was nice. The stage aside, it was an amazing game to watch.

    But...it would have been even BETTER as a final (just as it wouldn't have been as good as an exhibition match!)
     
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    Exactly. Mental Strength comes in play when the score is 20-20 or around that mark.

    But you need Technical Skills to reach that 20 mark. Without Technical superiority, how can clutch play come in action?
     
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    Xiao Yu's first birthday on 2nd November.
     
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    Wow..Same date as mine.
     
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    Really? What a coincidence. Wish you and Xiao Yu a belated Happy Birthday !:):):D

    Oops, it's 4th November according to this article, http://sports.qq.com/a/20171105/009584.htm

    On 2nd Nov , Xie Xinfang launched her Doreen brand of baby care products and was congratulated by Lin Dan on weibo and I mistakenly assumed that's also Xiao Yu's birthday. My apologies.:oops::(
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    oh my god those feet!!
     
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    Lol. Your love to Lindan has no boundaries.

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    Oops. This was a reply to @Ninetailedfox's post regarding his birthday.

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    Never mind, it works with Justin L as well, perhaps even more fittingly.
     

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