Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

do you think badminton players are paid to join certain competitions like tennis and golf?
appearance fees perhaps?
yes, they are. however, they are required to attend superseries tournaments.

tournament organizers and/or sponsors may pay players to enter gp gold level and below if they want to.
 
LCW enjoyed the draw of the top seed, and then got the best of it, by demolishing his opponents this week. Fan of him or not, you have to acknowledge great such performances when he deliver.
agreed. it pays to work your way to the top 2 in the world. yes, the draws are easier, but you've earned it.

whenever i read a fan complaining about a draw or commenting how it favored a player, all i see is ignorance. professional players don't complain about the draws because they know how the system works.
That knee injury on the other hand... It was just part of his "game" with MF, and perhaps a way to ease some of the pressure and expectations in the final build up.
not an unreasonable theory.
 
agreed. it pays to work your way to the top 2 in the world. yes, the draws are easier, but you've earned it.

whenever i read a fan complaining about a draw or commenting how it favored a player, all i see is ignorance. professional players don't complain about the draws because they know how the system works.not an unreasonable theory.
Exactly. You earn your draw by putting in the hours. Some players may play less in order to prepare for a few tournaments, and they may suffer a bit in the draw department as a result.

LCW is THE ONE PLAYER that have played by far the most tournaments (to win) in the past years. I think playing too much have cost him some big titles actually. But the pay off have been the WR#1 or #2 spot for a long while, and the reward that comes along with it, is a good draw.

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On the injury, just to elaborate. I don't think he wasn't injured. I just think he made it sound worse than it was, in order to get the setup and build up exactly the way he wanted it.

You could see in his movement and "on court confidence" during all matches, that he was not anywhere near worried about his physique.

Cheers,
FB
 
In the past, badminton players and especially singles players tended to retire by the time of their early thirties. That he (and Peter Gade) can / could still go strong is good for the game. Hu Yun is another who keeps going. Personally, I think it is good for the game, maintains interest and keeps people talking.
Points system is the key here.

Going from 15 to 21 made it possible to stick around perhaps a season more.

If they go to 11, it will be another step in that direction. But I sure hope they won't do it... Badminton should be a physical tough game.

Cheers,
FB
 
Okok, on a more level view, LCW's injury seems like a 7.5/10 to me, his first set (at least before first interval) with CTC in SF and SYQ in F were quite relaxed, playing a very courteous "giving up initiative" clearing/lobbing game and all. That reeks of him wanting to warm up the body and test his joints before fully entering into condition. No longer the all guns blazing LCW from years past.

This past AE gives me the impression "If he can stretch to get a down the line smash, he would, if he can't, then whatever, he'll give it up."

Especially the one cross court smash that SYQ returned, LCW didn't even bother to run the full diagonal from rear backhand to front forehand corner to retrieve, that was quite obvious IMO. And it shows that mentally he can afford to lose 1-2 points here and there. Netkill that cost SYQ his ankle was another somewhat, but that's subjective. I really feel for SYQ there, having had that happen also. I cringed when I saw that.

TBH, SYQ winning LD may be due to the fact that LD doesn't inject pace suddenly these days, preferring clears and drops while LCW is one that will still jump smash at an opportunity. And the fact that they train together means he somewhat knows LD's game, even if a fraction of it.



On a side note, he finally gives up his bloody SHB92MX that he's worn for what, 6 coming 7 years?
 
Points system is the key here.

Going from 15 to 21 made it possible to stick around perhaps a season more.
Not sure. Old points system used to have some long matches but some not as long as now.

I thought financial incentives make people stick at badminton for longer.
 
Okok, on a more level view, LCW's injury seems like a 7.5/10 to me, his first set (at least before first interval) with CTC in SF and SYQ in F were quite relaxed, playing a very courteous "giving up initiative" clearing/lobbing game and all. That reeks of him wanting to warm up the body and test his joints before fully entering into condition. No longer the all guns blazing LCW from years past.

This past AE gives me the impression "If he can stretch to get a down the line smash, he would, if he can't, then whatever, he'll give it up."

Especially the one cross court smash that SYQ returned, LCW didn't even bother to run the full diagonal from rear backhand to front forehand corner to retrieve, that was quite obvious IMO. And it shows that mentally he can afford to lose 1-2 points here and there. Netkill that cost SYQ his ankle was another somewhat, but that's subjective. I really feel for SYQ there, having had that happen also. I cringed when I saw that.

TBH, SYQ winning LD may be due to the fact that LD doesn't inject pace suddenly these days, preferring clears and drops while LCW is one that will still jump smash at an opportunity. And the fact that they train together means he somewhat knows LD's game, even if a fraction of it.



On a side note, he finally gives up his bloody SHB92MX that he's worn for what, 6 coming 7 years?
Datuk seems to be operating at 80% compare to his pre-injury games-- but I can't tell if he is just "saving" himself or developing/mutating into the 4th phase of "Shin" Godzilla, I mean the "True" Lee Chong Wei... Can't wait for the sequel, I mean the Final Form of Lee Chong Wei!

As for Shi Yuqi, he has revealed in interviews in that he has beaten Lin Dan in training before and had already met up with Lin Dan (& lost in 3 games) in the Chinese league-- that's why he doesn't get starry-eyed or play mind games with himself, like foreign opponents do when facing Lin Dan.... I think he knew, as we all do now, that there is very little "acceleration" left in Lin Dan's game now (vs pre-Rio 2016).
 
If the MRI did reveal an MCL tear, then this is pretty amazing recovery in 1 month...even with stem cell injections.

I'm more inclined to think it was just a strain and not a tear. And even if it was a tear seen on MRI, it was probably a very minor one? But still, 1 month to recover...

Probably minor tear. With stem cell injection and pain killers its possible to play like he did.
 
Anything LCW, everyone will make an issue about it. Cut him some slack, monsieur. It's probably, his last ever All England Championship.
I'm guessing it's the usual salt and moral outrage from fans of Lin Dan and other players/ playing styles...

Such self-obsessed "keepers of the law" (aka tone trolls/ virtue-signallers) tend to think it's weird/wrong that people with say, Marin's aggression, Lin Dan's theatrics, or Lee Chong Wei's poker face, etc. should all have an equal right to exist in badminton-- let alone express their personality.

Otherwise, I wouldn't know how to explain why people more obsessed with the stats/news than the actual game of badminton is even bothering to post in these forums...
 
Are you serious? You write like you are a judge. Does it matter whether you have an issue or not? Perhaps you could write to BWF your standards of player behaviour?

Are you aware of the amount of junk posts strewn around this forum? You ve got this soami poster who's just having a fun time fooling around. You ve got this Justin poster who behaves like he owns the real estate here promoting the greatness of Chinese badminton in every thread he treads.

It s not easy being a mod but for a start you can be less biased. You are a LD fan and it shows, in case you are not aware. Don t take this personally.
And please, don't take your opinion too seriously. There is no right or wrong opinion. Most people will see what they want to see and then form an opinion. I don't write to have people agree with me. It s just to let another light in so they may have a different view, different angle, different colour.

And if you and the bunch of Malaysians are still concerned about LCW s bad boy attitude, better feedback to BWF early, LCW is going to get worse from now on, with even more shocking emotional release.
You just have to slip in on the sly a claim that's clearly not a fair representation of me, choosing to zero in only on the one aspect that irks you instead of taking me as a balanced whole. I could use the same charge against you but with good justification the way you unfailingly, even outrageously, support and defend everything about LCW as if he could do no wrong, fanatically and like a bigot.

As for whether Cheung, and I remember you 'accused' kwun of the same, are LD fans (actually I 'm not so sure of that), so what ? How does that automatically qualify them as biased towards LD? We still have to take whatever they write about him on its own merits and argue the case point-by-point. The way I see it, both Cheung and kwun are very respectable and reasonable people despite their occasional show of a bit of temper (Cheung more than kwun, that's mainly because the former is more active here having to deal with so many forummers, including a quarrelsome bunch and trolls).

As for LCW's bad boy behaviour of late, esp the way he repeatedly lashed out at MF (hat tip to him for showing such self-restraint and prudence, he earns my admiration), with die-hard fans like you blindly worshipping and encouraging him how can he not get worse as you've warned he would ?
 
On the injury, just to elaborate. I don't think he wasn't injured. I just think he made it sound worse than it was, in order to get the setup and build up exactly the way he wanted it.

You could see in his movement and "on court confidence" during all matches, that he was not anywhere near worried about his physique.

Interesting. I only saw the semifinal and missed the final. He didn't look like he was protecting his leg but then again, he didn't quite look like 100%. Then again, CTC didn't really push to the extremes.

Perhaps Chong Wei's enforced break brought out a 'siege' mentality. He thinks everybody is trying to write him off but he's going to show people it's not over yet. You know, a bit of anger expression thinking there's a conspiracy against him.
 
You just have to slip in on the sly a claim that's clearly not a fair representation of me, choosing to zero in only on the one aspect that irks you instead of taking me as a balanced whole. I could use the same charge against you but with good justification the way you unfailingly, even outrageously, support and defend everything about LCW as if he could do no wrong, fanatically and like a bigot.
Actually, I think pjswift was referring to me for the main part ;)

I think that particular small sideshow is settled so not much point to continue it.
 
And that is said by LD fanboys who is in the atate of denial after LD was beaten like a noob many times already. LD lost, got so many excuse ma. LD doesn't want to win. LD doesn't want to fight at 50%. Absolutely like a meme. "You can't lose if you don't get in final" *tip head. Always so many reason to hate Chong Wei. If that is consider badboy, I would like to consider LD as a gangster who lacks respect. With his awful theatrical stunt like throwing racket and such. It's awful to see him praised like the best.
 
It is very probable LD let Shi win in the SF. It is not that he's slow, cannot inject pace, or anything, because we saw what happened with Axelsen, who is no push over.
LD does not want to meet LCW I suppose. Keep that for the WC and Team competition...
 
It is very probable LD let Shi win in the SF. It is not that he's slow, cannot inject pace, or anything, because we saw what happened with Axelsen, who is no push over.
LD does not want to meet LCW I suppose. Keep that for the WC and Team competition...
Always probable for LD. LD is too slow now. He can't keep up with the youngsters. That's why he always play stroke like it's 90s. Cannot inject pace and cannot retrieve SYQ's smash, how to win? He should retire already before loaing in every tournament he play. His time is already over. No more stroke boring play here. Can he even qualified in WC as THW, CL, SYQ and others are in front of him? Lazy is lazy.
 
Always probable for LD. LD is too slow now. He can't keep up with the youngsters. That's why he always play stroke like it's 90s. Cannot inject pace and cannot retrieve SYQ's smash, how to win? He should retire already before loaing in every tournament he play. His time is already over. No more stroke boring play here. Can he even qualified in WC as THW, CL, SYQ and others are in front of him? Lazy is lazy.

Having watched LD v SYQ match court side, I don't think he is slow. I think he was tired. He still has 80-90% the speed he did in say 2009-10 but he just doesn't have the stamina to use it all the time given his age. He had a tough match the day before against VA which would have taken a lot out of him.

I think if LCW had a gruelling match the day before, he may not have done quite so well either. It's obvious LCW's stamina is not what it used to be.

I also do not agree that this is laziness, as I don't think you can call anyone who reaches the semi's of the AE "lazy" - talent alone won't get you that far. Neither could you say his time is over. He beat VA the day before! Does that mean VA's time is over too then?
 
And that is said by LD fanboys who is in the atate of denial after LD was beaten like a noob many times already. LD lost, got so many excuse ma. LD doesn't want to win. LD doesn't want to fight at 50%. Absolutely like a meme. "You can't lose if you don't get in final" *tip head. Always so many reason to hate Chong Wei. If that is consider badboy, I would like to consider LD as a gangster who lacks respect. With his awful theatrical stunt like throwing racket and such. It's awful to see him praised like the best.
Pardon me, who's the one who started calling LCW bad boy? Me or pjswift ? Hard to imagine I've been dealing with a madam all these years, the bellicosity.

Please stop dragging Lin Dan into the picture, belittling and calling him names in a vain, underhand attempt to make LCW look good. That awful racquet-throwing threatrical stunt - not his first - why wasn't he warned or red-carded (for playing to the gallery?) ?

I mean, with extreme fans like you and pjswift spoiling LCW rotten, how do you expect him to behave, the more so as he has just come back with another glorious result, as if he owns BAM ?

What is Morten Frost hired to do for BAM ? He must have done right the previous time, that's why BAM top officials lured him back the second time with certain KPIs to fulfil. If he has done anything wrong, why wasn't he taken to task, reprimanded or sacked ? Instead the BAM President likened it to a husband-and-wife quarrel and came out with that expedient solution in the hope the whole ugly matter will blow over or resolve itself as time goes by.
 
And perhaps less "LCW isn't injured, he trick the media, I know since I can see his MRI scan better than doctors" theory.
 
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