let see u are boasting or not see post below this is the 1st post not boasting? ok next post 2 still not boasting? as u mean indonesia spoiled mas ought for 1-2 pairs in the semi final base on world ranking not boasting? ok next and try to imply ullin/berry is better than wjc ckm now still not boasting? ok next only gjh/razif,chooi/pang is back up player other player is junior(exclude ms player play as md) and yet try to ask me give a list while most of the back up pair are in macau still not boasting? ok next i skip this as this is not reply to me still not boasting as u said that ina md squad beat the damn pretty decent mas md squad? if u say this is not boasting ok i apologies to u sorry badmania (the reader will judge)
Oh my dear limsy, I hate to correct you....but your list is definitely WRONG! Pelatnas Utama (6 pairs): Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki (unfortunately going to be split up after WC) Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan Fernando Kurniawan/Wifqi Windarto Rendy Sugiarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan Angga Pratama/Rian Agung Saputro Andhika Anhar/Hendra Mulyono Pelatnas Pratama (6 pairs): Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan Andrei Adistia/Rachmat Adianto Rizki Yanu Krensnayandi/Albert Saputra Agrippina Prima/Ricky Karanda Suwardi Marcus Fernaldi Gideon/Christopher Rusdianto Riky Widianto/Nugroho Andi Saputro (new pairing) Hau-Ge and Krisna, please add or delete if there's any wrong names As for the rest, they are not even in the national team yet. If u look at the team being sent to Indonesia IC, both INA and MAS send only their second-layer and junior pairs....comparable I would say. So, I am delighted that at least for pairs within the same level, we can have an all-INA SF! I also didn't see any "better" pair in the second level or junior level for MAS apart from Nelson/Teo! Or I am missing something?
Jagdphanter is always wise I will also let the others to judge...fine with me What I did was just comparing the level of the pairs being sent by MAS and INA to this Indonesia IC. And hey, since the level of the pairs are comparable (typically second-layer Pratama and junior pairs), technically speaking, we should see some MAS MD pairs lasting all the way right??? So, I am definitely delighted over how the 4 INA pairs (and 3 are from Pratama) can create an all-INA SF when in fact, I personally predicted (read the first page) that it will be very difficult for our INA pair to win this one given the tight competition!
Ow/Yew as I recall have not lost to Nelson/Teo EY until Kedah Open. Yew has had elbow injury, I still see effects of it during SUKMA. Razif Latif alone will not win the match, hahaha. Btw, Cheah Liek Hou dont play International unless it's para-olympics. Aiyoo, see their skill also know, I'm sure you know I watched SUKMA live How old are Alamsyah & Andre? New names ? Young players I presume ? Sonia Cheah, Loh Wei Sheng- one BCer posted Loh WS just recovered from injury. Lai Pei Jing with Shevon Lai for WD, but too bad LPJ is injured. Even these also considered young, normally it's the 20 & 21 year old who go IC. BJSS, 17 & 18 yo go Satellite In any case, good performance from INA players.
So, the MD pairs being sent to Macau from INA and MAS are comparable since they are the first-level! Meanwhile, the MD pairs being sent to Indonesia IC are also comparable since they are mostly second-level or junior pairs! So, which better pair (apart from Nelson/Teo) from the second level or junior pairs are not being sent? I will love u to give me some names! That's the whole point my dear limsy!
we compare the current level one squad with the current pelatnas utama 1st our average is 22.75 years old,not sure about urs with the 22.75 years old squad we have 9 super series we have 6 grand prix title 1 ag gold and lost count of ic i think and yet,not sure if the current pelatnas utama have how many title 2nd we compare current level two with the current pelatnas pratama we have none i think congrates,u guys have at least 2 ic title in bag no,not same level as u mentioned,badmania indonesia pelatnas pratama is 2 title ahead of mas level two squad that is a great achievement,congrates! 3rd under 19 erm,we have 2 gold from wjc,2 silver from ajc 1 silver from wjc and 1 bronze from ajc again,not sure about urs no hard feeling ya badmania,i just list down the fact peace,we still friend
no we have no better pair than the list in this ina ic badmania u are correct that is also my point in post 86 we had reach agreement that pelatnas pratama is better than malaysia 2nd level right? peace hand shake please read post 81 too i said sorry to badmania
please read carefully get it? i have no problem that pelatnas pratama is 2 title ahead of us congrates!
He has answered it himself ".we have no better pair than the list in this ina ic" . That was the whole point that I was trying to make when I was questioning his earlier statement that the md team being sent is "not strong" enough for him. That should imply that there should be stronger pairs (for the second-level and junior pairs) out there (at least not known to me, except for Nelson/Teo) right? And since when a victory over a former WJC player implies that the winning pair (Ulin/Berry) is now better than the former WJC player? I couldn't even imagine that. All I was pointing was that Ulin/Berry needed to get some good results and they managed to put one up tonight...when in fact, their results all these few months were kinda atrocious! So, a good relief for them and hopefully a chance to show to us...INA fans that they still deserve to be counted, the same goes for Rizki/Albert!
If I am boasting, I will say: WHAT A THRASH TEAM MAS HAS IN THEIR MD....ALL GOT BEATEN BEFORE SF! ALL TAK BOLEH LAH! None of the seeded pairs deserve their seedings! Instead, what I wrote was: Despite a strong team being sent, none could reach SF. I was in fact paying a compliment to the MAS MD Team being sent to the Indonesia IC as I sincerely thought it was a very strong team that could very well win the title! I actually expected at least one pair (Ow/Yew) to reach the SF before the tourney start! That was also the reason why I questioned limsy's comment on why the team being sent is "not strong" in his opinion and wanted him to give me some names whom I may not know. God knows why that led to limsy's thinking that I was boasting! Again, if I am boasting, I could have written: "see...those seeded positions didn't matter right....our INA pairs have proven that they could thrash the MAS pairs without problems!". Sigh.....
I think you basically got the names correct, badMania... However, I've not been folowing the National Team composition in the past few months [I told you why, right? Hehehehe]... In my opinion, the INA MD department is experiencing another big batch between ages 18-20 who are highly talented... I expect between 2 pairs to 4 pairs (if we are lucky) of world contenders out of these bunch by 2014. INA coaches general concensus: MAS young MD are good, but (most probably) their potentials are limited...
can u come malaysia i bring u there u can eat as much satay as u can in 3 hours only satay and only u want? haha i pay for satay only cannot take away drinks u pay urself hehe wanT?
This is true... I (personally) hoped INA would win the WJCs... but hey, I guess we just have to settle with World Championships and Olympic Golds later.....
Hehehe....yeah....don't worry. As I wrote earlier, I am more interested in the batch of 14-15 yo kids. IMHO, that should be the age group our INA coaches should be focussing right now! Kevin, Kenny, Jeka, Rafi, and perhaps Andrew will be in contention! Many people (including you and Hau-Ge) have praised Kevin, so, expectation will be very high on him. At the moment, he's kinda frustrated and disappointed that he has been losing left and right since he was promoted to U-19 age-group; which I think it's the right attitude that will spur him to do even better next time! Many players nowadays (esp seniors) just take a loss as normal and they are not motivated to train harder because of that defeat! I am just wondering what if Kevin (short) is being paired with Rafi (tall)....a short-tall combo, with Kevin in front with his placements and Rafi making all the kill! For the seniors, Angga/Rian have started to show their potential in the recent tourneys. At least, the money spent to send them to Macau is not wasted!
