2016 TOTAL BWF TUC Finals - Day 8 (22nd May) : THOMAS Cup FINAL

Discussion in 'Thomas Cup Finals / Uber Cup Finals 2016' started by CLELY, May 21, 2016.

  1. lee00

    lee00 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2016
    Messages:
    802
    Likes Received:
    134
    Location:
    US
    Hehe what one got to do is wipe LYB's arse to be his golden boy
    Well, ignore me
     
  2. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    Not if you're a Vittinghus fan like me, :).

    Being the shortest Danish singles player (at 180 cm), he is the only one who plays with anything close to the footwork and mobility (including the "dives") I so enjoy seeing in the shorter (usually Asian) players like LD and LCW.

    I enjoy watching him even when he loses-- cos he just keeps running/moving all over the court!
     
    livewire likes this.
  3. kelana

    kelana Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,720
    Likes Received:
    205
    Occupation:
    globalresearch.ca
    Location:
    The Sacred Mount Kailash, Ngari
    He he he what CLELY meant is why the CHN team didn't field LD as MS1, THW MS2 & QB MS3... well, as a hindsight this is somewhat an idea :D they just didn't get the tarot cards' reading in time :p:D
     
    opruh likes this.
  4. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    Easy, just be a pushover like Chen Long and agree with everything he says...

    He's more camera-friendly now, but Li Yongbo barked like a hooligan when he was still coaching at the sidelines...
     
    #504 Forestal, May 22, 2016
    Last edited: May 22, 2016
  5. tbgoh288

    tbgoh288 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    898
    Likes Received:
    189
    Location:
    In front of computer
    ............. 5. SWH played the match of his life at the right place and the right time.

    No point crying over spilled milk ( not referring to you). China had lost the Swaythling and Corbillon cups in Table Tennis before. They managed to bounce back to dominate. The same will happen in Badminton, rest assured.
     
    Zezevii, lee00 and kelana like this.
  6. fantastic4

    fantastic4 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2008
    Messages:
    218
    Likes Received:
    12
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Singapore
    Anybody know where the Thomas Uber Cup 2018 will be held?
     
  7. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    Oh I see-- I apologise for thinking just like Li Yongbo, too stuck up with my own ideas to assess reality properly....:p:rolleyes:
     
    kelana likes this.
  8. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    Again, Team China? Yes.

    Team Li Yongbo? No, what some of you guys are forgetting is that Li Yongbo basically "drove out" anyone who disagreed with him (after the pivotal "failed petition" by dissenting coaches) in rising/retaining the position of head coach-- that's why the badminton being played by the players he "discovered/coached" is so monochromatic.

    LD, FHF, CY, etc. were actually "discovered/coached" under a different coach/system, before Li Yongbo consolidated his position of head coach
     
    #508 Forestal, May 22, 2016
    Last edited: May 22, 2016
  9. tbgoh288

    tbgoh288 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    898
    Likes Received:
    189
    Location:
    In front of computer
    Good strategy if and only if Xue Song is not injured.
     
    Zezevii and kelana like this.
  10. kelana

    kelana Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,720
    Likes Received:
    205
    Occupation:
    globalresearch.ca
    Location:
    The Sacred Mount Kailash, Ngari
    Their women's volleyball team also faced the same ordeal, at the lowest point they're even crushed by the Japanese team in the QF of 2012 London OG. Then they hired back Lang Ping as the head coach in 2013 and rebuilt the team. Today you see a very strong team consists of many young players, with still increasing performances towards their golden times in 1980s and 1990s.
     
    #510 kelana, May 22, 2016
    Last edited: May 22, 2016
    tbgoh288 and opruh like this.
  11. pjswift

    pjswift Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2006
    Messages:
    3,517
    Likes Received:
    132
    Location:
    singapore
    There s no guarantee LD will not lose to SWH. SWH has defeated LD before and SWH also has the advantage of an extra day s rest. Being fresher makes a big difference when the match is close.
     
  12. kelana

    kelana Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,720
    Likes Received:
    205
    Occupation:
    globalresearch.ca
    Location:
    The Sacred Mount Kailash, Ngari
    Yeah, for a moment I forget the unfortunate Xue Song
     
  13. kelana

    kelana Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,720
    Likes Received:
    205
    Occupation:
    globalresearch.ca
    Location:
    The Sacred Mount Kailash, Ngari
    Strange that folks here talked only about CL but why not mentioned the silly act of Fu HF to do the flick serve at 20-18 G2... betting his luck against the odds of the mighty, unchallengeable service fault call? For me that's a very silly act!
     
    tbgoh288 likes this.
  14. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    No, then the order will be MS1, MS2, MS3, MD1, MD2-- they will schedule MD2 last to give MS3 (doubling in MD2) time to rest-- so itt will be over by the 3rd match, LOL!

    Potentially genius plan, but I'm not sure if you want to put THAT much pressure on VA as MS1; and fielding JOJ as MS2 was already a risk since he is recovering and injury-prone (they have already given up MD1 by fielding a recovering Kolding).

    Personally, I thought INA doomed their MS by not sending JC as MS2-- he has more competition experience and can execute a counter-strategy against JOJ, provided the INA coaches had one....JOJ is not a rapidly developing player like VA, and more than a few players have found ways to defeat him.

    But I'm getting the vibe that INA has a lack of talented MS coaches as well as players?
     
    Sundis and nokh88 like this.
  15. pjswift

    pjswift Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2006
    Messages:
    3,517
    Likes Received:
    132
    Location:
    singapore
    Agree with you. Sony is really difficult to play; ask Peter Gade. Rexy always likes new brooms. In top team tournaments, the MS3 is the most frightening situation, it s either hero or zero. Cool headed, proven experience usually prevails over youth. But Ihsan has done well; he s the coolest among the 3 youngsters.
    But I m so glad Denmark won. First time European champions defeat Asian champions?
     
  16. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    That was one bad service decision; CL played two bad GAMES-- if you didn't see it, the Chinese crowd gave FHF a standing ovation when he lost.

    Stop trying to whitewash the issue, CL's failure as MS1 in team competition has already set some kind of record in badminton history (most times fielded and lost to lower rank player).

    Now, every commendation of the achievements of the teams on the podium (even Malaysia) serves as a criticism of Team China and its management
     
  17. Gigabit

    Gigabit Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2007
    Messages:
    441
    Likes Received:
    42
    Occupation:
    Banker
    Location:
    Kuala Lumpur
    The tournament sponsor Total Oil mascot
     
  18. kelana

    kelana Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,720
    Likes Received:
    205
    Occupation:
    globalresearch.ca
    Location:
    The Sacred Mount Kailash, Ngari
    I also much wonder why INA team didn't field JC as MS2 thus Ginting as MS3... Maulana was so helpless today.
     
  19. lee00

    lee00 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2016
    Messages:
    802
    Likes Received:
    134
    Location:
    US
    C'mon CL is WR1, on paper he shoulda coulda tamed SWH.
    And for Fu HF.. his silly acts forgivable
     
  20. Forestal

    Forestal Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    340
    Location:
    Singapore
    Both Denmark and INA have very reasonable lines-up for the Thomas Cup:

    Denmark has 3 MS players in the top 16-- of course, you send them all and hope for the best.

    INA has no real edge in MS at all (vs Denmark, CHN, even Malaysia)-- so they took a development approach and sent a bunch of youngsters. Tommy Sugiarto was sent more as a some kind of mentor than anything else; keep sending all your veterans for the slighest chance of winning and the next thing, you know you have a generation gap like CHN.... and INA already has had a very looooong generation gap.

    Malaysia probably had the toughest MS decisions to make-- of course, you send LCW to give yourself a chance, and then?
     
    #520 Forestal, May 22, 2016
    Last edited: May 22, 2016

Share This Page