Who will dominate in 2005???

Discussion in '2005 Tournaments' started by the_way, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. aiyuuw

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    why do u think so? i mean, hes like the best in 04, why dont u think that he'll dominate the baddy world?:(
     
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    2005 will be the year when Lee Choong Wie finally parks in the top 5.

    It will also be the year when Gade again wins some big titles.

    Carsten Mogensen will get his big break in MX and MD.

    Taufik will win one or two titles, depending on motivation.

    Lin Dan will continue to be the guy to beat for the others.
     
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    i agree about Mogensan! :)

    im predicting a rivalry to ignite between Mogensan and malaysia's own KKK in both the MD and XD categories! :D

    let us see who the next generation of top doubles speacialist really is :eek:


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    Halim Haryanto won't be elligible to represent USA in next year's world championships.
    Tony Gunawan will probably be pairing Howard Bach...
     
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    He lost in the olympics in qualifiers to susilo who ultimately didnt win anything
    he lost to taufik in the indonesia open.... being world no.1 his just not performing well....even by chance he dun get a gold he shuld at least get a silver!
     
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    I don't quite agree here... If u consider Lin Dan not performing well just because he lost to Susilo whom in the end, also didn't win the gold medal, then I must say Taufik also didn't perform well in the China Open too.

    Taufik lost to Bao CL, and eventually Bao lost to Lin Dan who won the China Open! We shouldn't judge the players just on 1 or 2 matches whereby they lost, it's not at all surprising for the top seed to lose a tourney or two.

    But considering Lin Dan's performance for the whole year, other than the flop in Olympics, I think he did reasonably well. He is the MS player who won the most IBF events in 2004. :p
     
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    i kinda agree with u, i mean even tho im an indonesian, but still , even if he flopped at athens, he won almost all of the tourneys he entered , and bout he lost to th in io was just one tournament, and for his sake, its in semifinal! its hard enough for some players to get to that stage! but, yeah, the olympic thing is kinda questionable, but its people's opininon, so its all different right?:D , but anything can happen, maybe he ruled last year, but who knows wat will happen this year,(maybe i will be the world champ:D ? maybe no, but really, anything can happen:D )
     
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    do i must remember you how many titles he wins in 2003 and 2004 ??
    _denmark open 2003
    _all england 2004
    _swiss open 2004
    _china open 2003
    _denmark open 2004
    _german open 2004
    _china open 2004
    etc etc ....

    if you judge lin dan just in 2 defeat sorry to say that but that's quite ... stupid, he's dominating badminton world since about 1 years !! even some top players was afraid to be in the same quarter of lin dan ... if this not convince you ... what should i do? :rolleyes:
     
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    On this issue, IMO, I think in badminton, there's some luck factor which takes place also-ie. injuries, who did the players play against and some unknown factor. I thought Taufik was a bit "fortunate" during the Olympics where he didn't have to play 1 single chinese players-this was also acknowledge by some of the PB PBSI (Indonesian badminton federation) officials. The fact that all the chinese top MS players were eliminated before the SF, made his road easier. His toughest opponent was PGade which he beat in straight set, but his toughest match was against WCHann which he beat in 3 sets. I think "luck" has something to do also, which LinDan met differently against Ronald Susilo(who knows what really happened to LinDan). Another example is PiHongYan who lost to some unknown Indonesian in the 2nd round of the recent Indonesian Open, who would've thought??...Bottom line is, no player can win all tournaments/matches no matter how good he/she is, if it's your day or just your tourney to win or lose, there's nothing to stop it.

     
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    this is proof that all players no matter how good he/she is, they can't win all the tournaments/matches...If indeed these are all his wins the last year or so, then IMO only the All-England would be his best accomplishment followed by the China Open and Denmark Open. How about the Sudirman Cup/Thomas Cup??And was he invited to/played in the Copenhagen Masters 2 yrs ago(2003)??..He did win the JVC Asian Championship a while back i believe, but i wonder why not anymore??..We'll shall see this year if he can defend his All-England title and then pursuit the World Championship title..

     
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    yes. he did play in the Thomas Cup in the 1st single position, he won all his matches there and played a pivotal role in helping China regain the Thomas Cup. he didn't play the Sudirman Cup 2003 as he was still a new player then.

    i very much agree with your first sentence though, it is almost impossible for a player to win all his tournaments, as we can see from Lin Dan.

    however, winning 7 grand prix tournaments + Thomas Cup, there shouldn't be much doubt that Lin Dan has gone into 2005 as the most feared player in the circuit. it will be hard to convince anybody that he isn't the most probable player to "dominate" 2005.
     
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    Some perspectives on MS

    Gade: has got trouble beating : Lin Dan, Wong Choong Hann and Lee Choong Wei. Gade plays well against Taufik, Chen Hong and Xia Xuanze.

    Taufik: Trouble beating Gade
    Plays well against everybody, but has some trouble with Gade.

    Wong Choog Hann: trouble beating Lin Dan.
    Wong is not at his best at the moment, so he is having trouble with all the high ranked players at the moment.

    Lin Dan: No one he has any trouble against.

    After my analysis Lin Dan is my favourite on 2005. The only player I believe that has the abilities to beat Lin at the moment is Taufik.

    Iam hoping to see a good year from Gade. His game impressed me a lot in the copenhagen masters, but really none of the guys in the MS besides Gade and Jonassen was in a very good shape in that tournament.

    2005: Lin Dan will top the rankings follwed by Gade. And then the dangerous guys like Taufik, WCH and sos on...........
     
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    IMO, the reason why most people view LinDan as the "favorite" again to *dominate* in 2005 is because he was the most "consistent player" at least in terms of results, in the last year or so..On the other hand Taufik, Gade, LCW, BCL, WCH, ChenHong, Sony Kuncoro, RonaldSusilo all have capabilities, it's just that for reason or another or some unknown reason they're "not as consistent" as LinDan or their result(s) is not on the same par as LinDan..However, IMO, when it comes down to "very serious" tournaments(ie. 5* or above), only a few select players(namely Taufik) can rise up to the occasion, while others just can't cope with it...That's why this year also, i esp. want to see more Taufik vs. LinDan matches to see or gauge where the 2 players stand(perhaps in the next few tourneys both of them can face each other in the SF or Finals, that would be fun and wonderful)..

    Same also as in WS, we all know what the three Chinese girls can do(ZhangNing, GRN, ZhouMi), but players like Mia Audina, XXFang, PiHongYang, YaoJie(and the rest of ex-Chinese players), WangChen has the capabilities as well..Personally, even though i'm not a fan of Mia Audina, i want to see her do well this year and i think if she resolves her weakness, i think she can surprise some people this year(heck, she is currently ranked #1 WS player)..XXFang is also another player to watch..

     
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    wow, taufik in ae and jo posters? good for him then, i dont think they even put his face in io poster:rolleyes: maybe he is quite popular , well, my thought is lin dan will still be the player to beat, but doesnt mean that he is invicible, i consider that lin dan and taufik has even chances to win wc, since both are madly talented, popular, and all, and even though taufik is VERY inconsistent, but he said in a press conference after his gold medal, that he was aiming high for wc and ae, and wc is a big tournament, and we all know how taufik's motivation is very high when it comes to a tourney like dis, and there is lin dan, who all players fear of, and he will once again prove that he is a worthy #1 ranked player in the world, not to mention to add his trophy collections:D i hope we can see some good matches between the two, since that match in io was so interesting:D
     
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    It's always hard to tell with MS. Different players could take different honours. It will be hard for one player to dominate all. The usual suspects will be watched closely, but 2005 could see the emergence of young(er) players from Indonesia and especially China. Also Korea has been quiet for some time in this department, but watch for the storm after the calm.

    Xie Xingfang has only been winning in the absence of the Four Heavenly Queens (Zhang, Gong, Zhou, Mia). If one of them were to dominate, I will place all bets on Zhang. Also, the younger players from China were given exposure in 2004. 2005 may see one or two coming to the fore. I'm afraid there may never be a Xie era.

    In the MD, the usual suspects again. Korea may spring some new pairs. Denmark has a number of good new pairings. Malaysia as well.

    The WD has for a long time been China, China, China, and I don't see that changed in 2005, but they have to fight hard to maintain their dominance. Yang/Zhang will continue their run of good form in 2005.

    Once dominated by the Europeans, the XD event is offering a rather good mix for 2005. Big guns Zhang/Gao and Robertson/Emms, will find very difficult to hang on to their status. Zhang/Gao is already satisfied with 2 Olympic wins and Robertson/Emms also satisfied with their silver. There is half a chance that someone else end up as world #1 at year-end.
     
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    Kim Dongmoon and Ha Taekwon

    Kim DM and Ha TK will continue to play for the Korean National Squad, although Kim DM will not definitely play MX with whomever because he wants to focus on his graduate study. But Ha also wants play MX porbably with the tall Lee Hyojung (1.78 m).

    In the last months there were several national tournaments and league games which were postponed due to the Olympic Games.

    And the biggest surprise was surely the newest result in MD of the Korean Best Championships in the last days of 2004.

    Lee Jaejin and Jung Jaesung beat the silver medalists of Athens Lee Dongsoo and Yoo Yongsung at the semifinals (15:8, 15:8) and finally won the finals against the unbeatable Kim DM/Ha TK with their own weapons, namely with wit and powerful smashes in three really thrilling sets 14:17, 17:15, 15:11.

    They also beat Fu/Cai at their homeground in three sets 8:15, 15:8, 15:13 during the China Open 2004.
    They are respectively 21 and 22 years old and were elected to the new hopes for the Korean sports in 2005 by Korean sports journalist.


    MS

    While Lee Hyunil, Sohn Seungmo (the silver medalist in Athens 2004) and park Taesang must rehabilitate after operations, the youngster Park Sunghwan took over the crown of Korean MS who beat Lin Dan in quarter finals and Xia Xuanze in semi finals at Malaysian Open 2004.

    WS

    Jun Jaeyoun

    WD

    Ra's surgery was not successful, ao she won't be able to compete several months. But the more important thing is her mental state. It almost took two years for her to recover from the defeat at Sydney. And this time nobody knows how long it will take.

    So Lee Kyungwon, Lee Hyojung and some younger playershaver to form a completely new team.


    MX

    Kim Yonghyun will have the assignment to maintain the level of Korean MX, but there is a rumour that his partner Lee Hyojung should form a team.
     
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    Lee Hyojung should form a team with Ha TK.
     
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    do you know what ra's operation was, knee or something else? :confused:
     
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    Thanks for the interesting information about korean players economet! :)
    We were all wondering what was happening in Korea... ;)
     

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