Uber Cup 2008 - May 17 - Final - INA vs CHN

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  1. Erwin Kyoto

    Erwin Kyoto Regular Member

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    sorry all BCers...this thread is very early created...:p:p:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    I record head to head of INA vs CHN in final match is 2-2 home-away:

    Jakarta, 1986 - CHN winner-away
    Jakarta, 1994 - INA winner-home
    Hongkong, 1996 - INA winner-away
    Hongkong, 1998 - CHN winner-home

    In 1994-1998, INA team with Susy as WS1. In UC2008 edition, Susy with INA team meet CHN again in Final...Yep, we know the great wall of CHN is too strong for Susy`angels but we dont know if Senayan miracle will happen tomorrow...at least INA team will give the great wall HARD FIGHTING...:cool::cool::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    It`s nice to see Final match of INA vs CHN always back-to-back home ground...NOW 2008 their final encaunter back again to INA home ground, so guys and gals...what do you think?????????
     
  2. masjoko

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    INA has a slim chance. but nothing is impossible!
     
  3. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    china is the favourite to defend the title again...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  4. KlasseE

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    i can say 50-50, CHN is no longer unbeatable
    if you have watched the QF matches between CHN and NED, and if Judith won the 2nd point, then you will agree with me
     
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    badadum Regular Member

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    Lets be a bit more objective here, there's not a single match that INA has an advantage over the Chinese ladies.
    INA best bet would be a point each from Firda, Pia and Vita/Butet. Probability for all 3 to happen? Probably no more than 10-15% :eek:.
     
  6. kwun

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    any guesses for possible lineup? that would be easier to predict who wins...

    i think:

    Maria Kristin vs. Xie Xingfang
    Jo Novita / Greysia Polii vs. Yang Wei / Zhang Jiewen
    Adriyanti Firdasari vs. Lu Lan
    Lilyana Natsir / Vita Marissa vs. Wei Yili / Zhang Yawen (maybe substitute Gao Ling?)
    Pia Zebadiah vs. Zhu Lin

    i am afraid no matter how i look at it, i don't see INA taking more than 2 points from China.
     
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    agree.

    to take one point, the probability is ok, maybe 50%, but to take more than one, the probably goes down dramatically.
     
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    Based on ranking, Jo/Greysia can't be playing WD1 while Vita/Butet playing WD2.
     
  9. kwun

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    oh. you are right. they reverse the ordering in the INA vs. GER lineup. thanks for the correction.

    so here is the revised possible lineup:

    Maria Kristin vs. Xie Xingfang
    Lilyana Natsir / Vita Marissavs. Yang Wei / Zhang Jiewen
    Adriyanti Firdasari vs. Lu Lan
    Jo Novita / Greysia Polii vs. Wei Yili / Zhang Yawen (maybe substitute Gao Ling?)
    Pia Zebadiah vs. Zhu Lin
     
  10. girindra

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    China i think: 3-1
     
  11. badadum

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    Borrowing kwun's lineup:

    Maria Kristin vs. Xie Xingfang : 25 - 75
    Lilyana Natsir / Vita Marissavs. Yang Wei / Zhang Jiewen : 40 -60
    Adriyanti Firdasari vs. Lu Lan : 40-60
    Jo Novita / Greysia Polii vs. Wei Yili / Zhang Yawen : 30-70
    Pia Zebadiah vs. Zhu Lin : 35 -65

    INA's the underdog across the board.... but we can hope can't we?? :eek:
     
  12. george@chongwei

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    yeah, i also thinks that china will win 3-1
     
  13. ye333

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    China vs Indo

    WS1 80:20
    WD1 60:40
    WS2 70:30
    WD2 60:40
    WS3 70:30

    China winning probability: 0.81272.
     
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    Using your data, China winning probability is 0.78195. :D

     
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    These are my estimated probability of the different possible outcomes:

    CHN - INA
    3 - 0 50%
    3 - 1 25%
    3 - 2 15%
    2 - 3 7%
    1 - 3 2%
    0 - 3 1%

    yep, so INA's chance of winning is not more than 1 in 10, in my opinion. but miracles do happen...
     
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  16. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    your mathematics must be very good:D:p
     
  17. george@chongwei

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    sorry, double post..:D:p
     
  18. ye333

    ye333 Regular Member

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    In fact doing mathematics (not particularly probability though) is my job. :D

     
  19. Erwin Kyoto

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    In scoring, have u considered how the 7000 Volt of Senayan crowd to support their hero tomorrow...with cheering...Habisin..Habisin..Habisin..:confused::D...
     
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    I was, then I realized the Chinese gals probably have no idea what the heck is being yelled at them ;).
     

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