The longest SS match thus far?

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  1. Loh

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    The just concluded AE XD Final between China's Zhang Nan/Zhao Yunlei and Indonesia's Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir, which the Chinese eventually won 21-18, 23-25 and 21-18 that lasted 1hr 30min, could be a record in the new 21-point rally scoring system.

    Could anybody verify and confirm? ;)

    The match could have lasted a bit longer had Nova not been faulted with an above-waist flick serve which I thought was legal. The match result could have changed in Indonesia's favour if Nova had not been faulted by the Service Judge in the decider!

    Another error was committed by the line judge in the last point of the MS final between LCW and Tago. LCW's clear was shown in the replay as out of the baseline but the line judge called it in. I think Tago would have earned a deuce at 20-20 and may be able to stretch the match to three games.

    These are very important points and human error by the judges can prove to be very costly to the players affected. :mad:
     
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    physically demanding surely by all of the players;)..
     
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    Yup but LCW WON so it's not IMPORTANT.

    Lets not see the fact and start CELEBRATING.

    A-Win-Is-A-Win. Right?
     
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    The MD final was 90 mins.
     
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    the WD match was 1:33
     

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    If you like facts, here are some.

    1) A win is a win. If that isn't a fact then what is? A win is a loss?

    2) The last shot was out, the linejudge pointed in.

    Oh ok. Let's not celebrate. Rather let's cry, whine and grumble because of these facts.

    Speaking of facts, how about the following? Would you call them facts?

    1) LCW celebrated to influence the linejudge and umpire.

    2) The crowd celebrated to prevent KT from protesting.

    3) Tago would have won if the linejudging was perfect.
     
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    The video cannot be used. The regulations do not allow it. In contrary, legally speaking, it would be a miscarriage of justice if it was used to overturn the decision.

    I would have preferred if it (or other reliable devices) was allowed, but it has to be mandated for all tournaments of a certain level (like GP Gold onwards), for all rounds (not just Final) and for all stages of the match (not just the final crucial points).
     
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    no, we didnt say it was lcw's call or fault, nor Tago would have won the game or the match at all. I'm (maybe Loh too) just saying the event to be unfold could be different. It could gone to a rubber set even if lcw can win the 3rd game. YOu should appreciate that future outcome is quite dependent on previous sequence of events. For. if u walk, or bike or take the train to work just on 1 day, how future unfold is quite dependent on which path u took that day.;)
     
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    I was referring to the particular poster I was responding to (most of his posts are in another thread), not you.

    I agree with you on the future outcome. It's only logical. But, statistically (taking psychology out of the equation) LCW has a better chance. If the second game is 50-50 and the third is also 50-50, then LCW has a 75% chance of winning the match, as KT will need to win both games. However, if you include psychology into the equation, then there is only opinion.
     
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    I wonder if the longest SS match is really 93 mins. I mean we've seen some abnormally long matches (but good) this AE but we can remember them cos' they're fresh in our heads. Maybe (gawd, I'm sounding like LCW) our resident super sleuth ctjcad can investigate and present the findings. Sorry, I'm just a lazy sod.
     
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    Please guys that's not the subject here...
     
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    Actually I saw a WD match of 1h47 at French open 2007 QFinals

    Novita Jo/Greysia Polii vs Aki Akao/Tomomi Matsuda
    http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...A8A&player=234
     
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    But isn't part of the game human error. That's why we don't have a bunch of robots playing the game, it adds drama. I mean we watch to see the players play and the refs but what happens if he comes back next tourny with a vengeance and becomes one of the top players in the world, with this as his motivation? This to me is sports drama.
     
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    I personally wish the Tago/Chong Wei match had gone to 3 ends, it was an amazing atmosphere inside the NIA in Birmingham! Credit to both players for an amazing match.

    The games this year did last a lot longer, a lot of 3 end matches and the matches on Friday (quarter finals) didn't finish until 0:00 GMT, they were scheduled to finish at 10:30. I forget what time they finished on Saturday, but again it was later than planned.

    The same again for the finals, I had to get a train so missed the end of the women's double and all of the men's doubles.

    They even cut the exhibition match short, which was a rather amusing start to the finals day.
     
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    After doing madbad's homework..

    ..to answer Loh's question: indeed, for SS type tourney, the above stat is the longest SS match ever recorded. I'm not sure if there were longer matches which occurred in a non-SS type tourney. Insane?? Don't tell that to the players...but maybe to us..;)

    As a matter of fact, browsing through the archived stats, there haven't been a lot of matches which had gone over 1 hr 20 min.

    Btw, i just found this, check it out. I would think the time recorded is a typo (as it was actually the last match of the night, so the scoreboard operator's mind might've been half-asleep)..:p
    http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport...atch=197#ctl00_ctl00_cphPage_cphPage_tblGame0
     
    #20 ctjcad, Mar 14, 2010
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