TH or Lin Dan to final Hongkong SS

Oh, then what is the "mental smartness" that led LD to give WenKai one game? Mind explaining a bit? There are good theories (proposed by LD supporters/fans, mind you) in chinabadminton and badmintoncn. Just fyi if you met difficulty.

Did I say LD is in poor form in China Open 08? He was in OK form. Not as good as in OG, but not very bad either. On the other hand, did I ever say LCW was in good form in China Open? What's the point you want to make? :confused:


1. i already spoken about that in another thread and am not gonna re-educate u again. According robin7, i read great chinese. No, i rather not disclose the detail of LD's thinking to a non LD fan.

2. dont try to use who have said what's not, it only gonna make this thread more convoluted. We all know what u r driving at.
 
Relying on such stuff again. Sigh.

1. i already spoken about that in another thread and am not gonna re-educate u again. According robin7, i read great chinese. No, i rather not disclose the detail of LD's thinking to a non LD fan.

2. dont try to use who have said what's not, it only gonna make this thread more convoluted. We all know what u r driving at.
 
Oh ya, very honest. Why didn't you overlook LD's other wins? LOL.

I have explained my reasoning. And in my reply to Chinese, I clearly stated the situations in both 06HKO and 06WorldCup -- which you also agree. I also said it's totally OK if you want to count that into the H2H, but then the H2H becomes less useful for prediction. Anything wrong with the above?

Did I ever say BWF should not punish TH?

Why don't you comment on my Simon vs LD example. Unlike 06HKO, Simon already won the 1st game fair and square.

Of course, for you the only purpose of H2H is to serve as a weapon to attack other players and other badminton fans. LOL.

1. actually, i don't overlook any fair match by any players, period.

2. hk open, game started, umpire, referee, line judges are all there working. It is a valid match. It is a valid lost. 4-1 to LD.

3. i was using bwf's action as proof that the 06 hk match between TH and LD was a valid match, or else bwf wouldn't go disciplined TH.

4. HUH??? i didn't start this thread, and i came in late too, after u had already made 3 posts:rolleyes:. What other players have i attacked? are u saying all other badminton fans are all TH fans??
 
So you mean LD's AG wins are not fair matches (therefore you overlooked it although I clearly listed it)? :confused:

I never said 06HKO is not a valid match, I just said putting it in H2H will harm the usefulness of H2H statistics. What are you against here?

1. actually, i don't overlook any fair match by any players, period.

2. hk open, game started, umpire, referee, line judges are all there working. It is a valid match. It is a valid lost. 4-1 to LD.

3. i was using bwf's action as proof that the 06 hk match between TH and LD was a valid match, or else bwf wouldn't go disciplined TH.

4. HUH??? i didn't start this thread, and i came in late too, after u had already made 3 posts:rolleyes:. What other players have i attacked? are u saying all other badminton fans are all TH fans??
 
1. actually, i don't overlook any fair match by any players, period.

2. hk open, game started, umpire, referee, line judges are all there working. It is a valid match. It is a valid lost. 4-1 to LD.

A valid match in what sense, exactly? Yes, it was an "official" match where the victory was given to LD, but how does that help us assess their future matchups? Isn't that the purpose of stating those H2H sats? So, in your opinion, five points is enough to extrapolate a victory for LD? I don't think so.

Also, I believe LD will win. He's the better player now, in my opinion. No hard feelings, lah. xD
 
So you mean LD's AG wins are not fair matches (therefore you overlooked it although I clearly listed it)? :confused:

I never said 06HKO is not a valid match, I just said putting it in H2H will harm the usefulness of H2H statistics. What are you against here?

1. if u want to keep arguing over my grammatical oversight, and keep on ignoring the big WO, go ahead.

2. u still dunno what and why i'm against discounting HKO WO? Are u that blur?? The guy step onto the battlefield (court), and took some swept at his opponent (4-1 score), and then TH weasel out, and u don't called this a battle or a contest?

So according u you, walking out when LD vs Th at 20-18 should also not count
 
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A valid match in what sense, exactly? Yes, it was an "official" match where the victory was given to LD, but how does that help us assess their future matchups? Isn't that the purpose of stating those H2H sats? So, in your opinion, five points is enough to extrapolate a victory for LD? I don't think so.

Also, I believe LD will win. He's the better player now, in my opinion. No hard feelings, lah. xD
so if a cop pull u over for speeding and fined u for going 10 mph over the speed limit, are u saying that is not really or serious speeding and the police should not record this as a speeding violaton (demerit points) in your driving record?Are u saying u r a clean driver and we can not predict your future speeding tendency??? come on, try to erase that statistic from your license record, good luck LOL
 
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so if a cop pull u over for speeding and fined u for going 10 mph over the speed limit, are u saying that is not really or serious speeding and the police should not record this as a speeding violaton (demerit points) in your driving record?Are u saying u r a clean driver and we can not predict your future speeding tendency??? come on, try to erase that statistic from your license record, good luck LOL

I don't like analogies, but I'm gonna go ahead and give you a more accurate one. Imagine you're backing out of your driveway somewhat hastily, and a cop pulls you over.

"What's the matter, officer?"

"You were speeding."

"Sir, with all due respect, I don't think I was. I was just backing out of my driveway."

"Well, from the way you were backing out, I could just tell you were EVENTUALLY going to start speeding."

See? I can make analogies, too. And that one is more representative of what we're actually talking about. But, let's not get defensive, yeah? There's no need for anyone here to resort to name-calling. Peace, everyone!
 
I don't like analogies, but I'm gonna go ahead and give you a more accurate one. Imagine you're backing out of your driveway somewhat hastily, and a cop pulls you over.

"What's the matter, officer?"

"You were speeding."

"Sir, with all due respect, I don't think I was. I was just backing out of my driveway."

"Well, from the way you were backing out, I could just tell you were EVENTUALLY going to start speeding."

See? I can make analogies, too. And that one is more representative of what we're actually talking about. But, let's not get defensive, yeah? There's no need for anyone here to resort to name-calling. Peace, everyone!

hahahahaha, nice try.
traffic bylaws doesn't apply to residental driveway. Beside, I HAVE TRIED THAT TOO TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY. NOt A VALID REASON WAS THE CONCLUSION. :(

here is a better and more accurate version of your analogy

What's the matter, officer?"

"You were speeding, doing 10 mph over the posted speed limit"

"Sir, with all due respect, I don't think I was. Even my speedometer says I'm not speeding."

"Well, according to my laser gun, it clocked u were going 10.54 mph over the speed limit. Here is your ticket"


LOL, u see, TH was nailed for walking out at a score 4-1 to LD, he got a ticket too. LOL U see, the bwf badminton court is not a driveway, it is the real road.
 
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I think Cooler and Ye333 should settle the dispute over a game of Badminton singles!! Nothing like weilding the carbon fibre to sort out a dispute, lol.

LD is playing well and after the Olympics I don't see anyone beating him until my son gets older, lol.

I think both TH & LD have done well this year because they haven't played as many SS as others and LD especially seems to win them when he feels like it.

Tim H
 
I think Cooler and Ye333 should settle the dispute over a game of Badminton singles!! Nothing like weilding the carbon fibre to sort out a dispute, lol.

LD is playing well and after the Olympics I don't see anyone beating him until my son gets older, lol.

I think both TH & LD have done well this year because they haven't played as many SS as others and LD especially seems to win them when he feels like it.

Tim H

hehe, i have to find a right date where i will be in form. Meanwhile i have better mental strategy and is doing ok here:D:p
 
Props to Bonsaak though. His country and the city he lives in is in big turmoil, yet still able to win the match.
 
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