TH or Lin Dan to final Hongkong SS

Discussion in 'China Open (2) / Hong Kong Open / Vietnam Open 200' started by bramyes, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

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    ya, it's usually one against whole gang of them, analogous to an exterminator against a swarm of locusts:(:D:p:p:p
     
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  2. taufik-ist

    taufik-ist Regular Member

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    or he may have been a dead man walking already, like zombie.. no soul and no feeling.. he can't die twice :D :D
     
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    then why TH fans love talking to a zombie? I thought dead man, like zombie, can't talk? Have u watched any movie with zombies? Zombie don't like the cold but i'm cooler:p I dunno any zombie that plays badminton?
     
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  4. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    chiill out, cooler;)
    u must be cool..
    this thread is talking about lin dan or th to the final...
    not u vs ye333 to the hong kong open final:D:D
     
  5. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    do you know where my location is, right now?:rolleyes:;);):D:D:D
     
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    camon TH...this is a great chance to win this match over LD...
     
  7. taufik-ist

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    this zombie is unique.. he can talk and surf internet :D :D :D
     
  8. cooler

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    funny how u keep changing your definition of a zombie
    Anyhow, according you,
    this zombie can talk
    this zombie can surf internet
    this zombie can play badminton
    this zombie plays badminton like a machine (no soul)
    this zombie is unique
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    hell, I'm LIN DAN, TH and TH fans nightmare

    LOLOLOL.
    You should be privileged to talk to LIN DAN:):):)
     
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  9. aulia

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    oh oh... i have medicine for you... want some??? maybe hipnotic sedative? so you can have a very good sleep, don't need to see the match...

    better to take care your health...:p:p:p
     
  10. taufik-ist

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    sure.. george... :D :D... it's a twilight zone.... :D i dont want to go there :D

    btw gambateh taufik !!!!!
     
  11. lin_xingfang

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    come on , Lin Dan!
    Lin Dan should win this match

    really...LD vs TH make me more nervous than LD vs LCW...dunno why
    maybe because despite of TH's performance lately..he's still considered as one of great badminton player in the world and also an arc nemesis for Lin Dan

    let the best match comes tonight...

    JIA YOU, LIN DAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. volcom

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    Yet PSH still lost the last 3 encounters with LD, he is no match for him even though he may push him here and there.
    He'll probably get lucky on a LD bad day, but that's like once in a few months due to boredom and other commitments.
     
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    Walkout due to rage and other personal egotistic reasons should not be compared with that of an genuine injury.
     
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    Uhh, HELLO.... The whole point is to get an idea of where they stand against each other by how things have gone in the past (not always totally accurate, but can give you the general idea). How on earth can you count a "match" that only lasted a few points?

    ENOUGH with the "TH is a selfish git", "LD is the image of purity" nonsense. It's NOT NEEDED.

    This is a PERFECT example of missing the point entirely! It may be an "official match", but for the purposes of using head to head to gauge where a player stands against another it is NOT suitable! A match almost concluded is totally different to a match that barely started. Lets use an absolutely outrageous example as seems so popular - say I was playing Lin Dan, and he made lets say... 3 early mistakes (anything can happen), and then for some ungodly reason decided to walk out (yeah right - but like I said - outrageous, maybe he remembered he had a dental appointment or something...). Would you then say I won the match 3-0 and now stand at a 1-0 H2H against Lin Dan? Hardly... Don't bother nitpicking that example, I said it's outrageous, but the point is there.

    A match needs time to come to it's conclusion, and a perfect example is the MD just now between Fuzzys and KKK/TBH, if the match had finished early, who could have known Fuzzys would come back and win it? Therefore you can't base a win (a real win earned through being the better player on the day) on a few points in THIS CONTEXT.

    You can think what you want, but I think you need a serious reality check...

    Uhh huh. Always better, always right eh? >_>
     
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    You never write fairly about TH.......
     
  16. cooler

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    same analogy as caught speeding. Insurance rates will go up if they received notice that u were caught speeding. That is how they penalize u for future risk of auto accidents, even if your speeding was only 10 mph and did not caused any damages. It is counted in their record. Insurance company will not overlook this just because u were only 10 mph over speed limit. Insurance business is based entirely how they measure your risk premium versus their reward. They are statistic analyst expert.

    A H2H statistical analysis must include all H2H encounters, especially official matches. If u say a match stop at 4-1 is invalid but a match stop at 20-18 is valid, what score is needed before it is considered a valid match??????
    When TH step onto the court, and after the umpire said 'play', the match is valid. Even if TH had WO at 0-0 score for any voluntary reason, TH had lost.
    TH quit voluntary. Beside for involuntary reasons like injury or an act of nature ( terrorist attack in stadium), any voluntary WO is a lost, even at score 0-0. If u accept a WO at score 20-18 as a valid lost, the same WO logic applies to 0-0, or 4-1 score as well.
     
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  17. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    u should say topik bisa!!:p
    or topik semangat!:):D
    hehe:D

    p/s..wow just realised that this is my 12 k post;):cool::D
     
  18. taufik-ist

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    Taufik kamu bisa... kalahkan LD for Cooler :D :D

    congratz to george for reaching 12 k posts..

    you've just won 12 K $points... he..he
     
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    Speeding is speeding, badminton is badminton. When speeding, you're not comparing two players. It's a "yes you are speeding", "no you are not speeding scenario". Analogies are clever and all, but they have to be very relevant to have any weight. This one is only relevant if you're arguing about whether the match was a loss or a win. And that's not what I'm arguing. Anyway I'm not going to change your opinion.

    The difference between 4-1, and 20-18 is night and day. Those were the examples given, so those were the examples used. Obviously there's no exact line at which point it crosses over, but you can just use common sense and work out for yourself whether a match was close enough to completion to get a fair idea of who was better on the day. Who could possibly know for sure how that HKO 06 match would have turned out if it had gone the full distance?

    And still you're not getting the point - The difference between an official match, and a match which actually contributes to a halfway useful statistic. Yes, Taufik lost the match. Jeeezz I'm not denying that... I'm saying it's not useful to include it statistically IF you're going to use that statistic as basis for an argument (based on comparison).
     
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  20. lin_xingfang

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    chill out,guys...

    like the joker said :
    "Why So Serious?" :D

    just enjoy the game...
     

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