Are you mad, is your brain fried? Of course not, Lin Dan is NEVER a goat nor the goat you have in mind - he is a human who happens to be The GOAT in badminton !
To be honest and fair, for any professional player, loose shoe laces should never be allowed to affect their game, just tie it up in a jiffy and get going, no excuse whatsoever.
Uncle Lin is not the greatest of all time. More appropriately, he is the greatest player of his time, if and when he retires before another player surpasses his achievements. Note that we cannot compare players of different eras. Example, in 1950s, someone can say Eddy Choong or Wong Peng Soon is the greatest of all time or in the 60s and 70s, Rudy Hartono is the greatest of all time. Won't those claims be meaningless now? I recall vividly someone in the late 60s by the name of eightheadedshark claimed that Erland Kops was the GOAT when he ended 8 years of All England dominance by the Malayan players. This eightheadedshark has since disappeared with the emergence of Uncle Lin. We don't know and never will know what the future will be, so the term Of All Time is not suitable unless doomsday happens say tomorrow noon China time and someone broadcast to the world at 11.59. 58 am and declare : Uncle Lin Dan is the Greatest Player OF All Time, I agree. Why "Player" ? Because he is a badminton player. I believe this will end all squabbles.
Lin Dan has surpassed everyone past and present. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase 'Greatest of All Time' which I've explained earlier ? What does "of all time" mean ? Let me repeat it here for your sake, it means" the best throughout the ages", "the greatest that has ever lived or existed". Know your English. More, From Macmillan dictionary http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/of-all-time used for talking about someone or something that is better than all other people or things that have existed Example: the greatest boxer of all time From Merriam-Webster dictionary https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/of all time Definition of of all time : that has ever lived or existed In my opinion, he is still the greatest basketball player of all time. of all time phrase https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/of-all-time If you say that someone or something is, for example, the best writer of all time, or the most successful film of all time, you mean that they are the best or most successful that there has ever been. 'Monopoly' is one of the best-selling games of all time. This is my favourite song of all time. time COBUILD Advanced English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers
now don't start foaming at the mouth and soiling your panties. this topic is abt badminton, and i am definitely not interested in chappals nor yindian culture.
Even i wish the topic to be continued about badminton rather than wasting my time with a nobody . Don't fume inside seeing other country players beating Chinese Players and calling them as "fluke". If the politics and geographics of a particular country is taken for discussion , there won't be end for it. Then Everybody will get handful of insights to share with. Neither China is rich nor India. So, let us leave with that and focus more on badminton. If you drag a country with something, then many are ready to drag you down with more. Cheers.
nope. the term is too ingrained in the lexicon of sports. fans use it, the press uses it and athletes themselves use it. once the participants (athletes) use it in the press fans follow. it doesn't matter what the true definition of the acronym is, or how you want to define it. there's no turning back. good luck on your continued fight with the internet. oh, and one last thing... LIN DAN IS THE GOAT!!! heh heh...
justin l is the lin dan of the lin dan fan club. at times i think he's really lin dan. ntfox is the lcw. in other words: a disssssssstant 2nd. side note: ntfox kinda sound like 'auntie fox.' hmmm.... i feel a new nickname coming down the pike. ha ha!
this is well established and no doubts at all. Lin Dan towers head and shoulder on achievements and dominance over his rival for more than a decade. certainly, there will never be a satisfying conclusion if ppl start to discuss abt talent, skill-sets, etc. xiong guobao (fitness, consistency, stroke-play, defensive), zhao jianhua (supremely talented attacking play and shuttle control) and yang yang (excellent all round skills and mental strength) are all legends and great players. but Lin Dan is the best combination of all.
Well nobody should try to change your opinion, because it is futile. During LD's era he stood head and shoulder above most of his rivals as the record will show, though he also met with occasional defeats, sometimes to unknown players. But to say he is the best of all time, one needs to consider other factors. The fact that it is not possible to compare him with the great masters of the past as they have not met. These maestros were also champions in their own era. As well as future champions that surely will emerge with better records. There was great debate on whether 8-time AE champion, Rudy Hartono, can beat The Thing, LD's mentor but it also came to a futile end as they did not meet. One can also venture to ask whether LD himself can beat The Thing when the latter was in his prime. I don't remember anybody commenting RH was the 'goat' during his era, though he dominated MS for a long time. Of course social media technology has changed enormously, so has the English vocabulary, including the word "GOAT". So is LD the goat? I would say like RH, he was the greatest during his era, but not of all time. Maybe one can say he, just like earlier masters, was the greatest player TODATE, i.e. during their era.
rudy hartono was a good player but cannot be considered the greatest. he could have been, but NO. his victories were hollow as the standard was not global. just like you win 100 titles playing in your district tournament. in fact, those who bring names other than Lin Dan as the greatest of all time simply fail to read/acknowledge his complete dominance for more than a decade.
The All-England competition was as global as could be during the past, though China only joined in probably in 1982 when Luan Jin lost to Morton Frost. It was politics that prevented China from joining the competition earlier. 1947 Conny Jepsen Prakash Nath 15-7, 15-11 1948 Jørn Skaarup Poul Holm 15–3, 15–13 1949 Dave G. Freeman Ooi Teik Hock 15–1, 15–6 1950 Wong Peng Soon Poul Holm 15–7, 15–10 1951 Wong Peng Soon Ong Poh Lim 15–18, 18–14, 15–7 1952 Wong Peng Soon Eddy B. Choong 15–11, 18–13 1953 Eddy B. Choong Heah Hock Aun 15–4, 15–4 1954 Eddy B. Choong Donald Smythe 15–5, 15–6 1955 Wong Peng Soon Eddy B. Choong 15–7, 14–17, 15–10 1956 Eddy B. Choong Finn Kobberø 11–15, 15–3, 15–11 1957 Eddy B. Choong Erland Kops 15–9, 15–3 1958 Erland Kops Finn Kobberø 15–10, 8–15, 15–8 1959 Tan Joe Hok Ferry Sonneville 15–8, 10–15, 15–3
1960 Erland Kops Charoen Wattanasin 15–11, 11–15, 15–6 1961 Erland Kops Finn Kobberø 15–10, 15–6 1962 Erland Kops Charoen Wattanasin 15–10, 15–5 1963 Erland Kops Channarong Ratanaseangsuang 15–7, 15–7 1964 Knud Aage Nielsen Henning Borch 8–15, 17–14, 15–4 1965 Erland Kops Tan Aik Huang 15–13, 15–12 1966 Tan Aik Huang Masao Akiyama 15–7, 15–4 1967 Erland Kops Tan Aik Huang 15–12, 15–10 1968 Rudy Hartono Tan Aik Huang 15–12, 15–9 1969 Rudy Hartono Darmadi 15–1, 15–3 1970 Rudy Hartono Svend Pri 15-7, 15-1 1971 Rudy Hartono Muljadi 15-1, 15-5 1972 Rudy Hartono Svend Pri 15-9, 15-4 1973 Rudy Hartono Christian Hadinata 15–4, 15–2 1974 Rudy Hartono Punch Gunalan 8–15, 15–9, 15–10 1975 Svend Pri Rudy Hartono 15–11, 17–14 1976 Rudy Hartono Liem Swie King 15-7, 15-6 As shown above, RH defeated different opponents, albeit some were his fellow countrymen. And the countries represented during those early days were quite diverse but the majority were from badminton-strong countries, except that South Korea and China were absent. In particular, Denmark remained a dominant force even till today. It produced VA who convincingly beat the goat in the Rio Olympics and the just concluded WC! And Denmark is now the world's best team after winning the Thomas Cup last year!
1977 Flemming Delfs Liem Swie King 15-18, 15-11, 15-8 1978 Liem Swie King Rudy Hartono 15-10, 15-3 1979 Liem Swie King Flemming Delfs 15-7, 15-8 1980 Prakash Padukone Liem Swie King 15-3, 15-10 1981 Liem Swie King Prakash Padukone 11-15, 15-4, 15-6 1982 Morten Frost Luan Jin 11-15, 15-2, 15-7 1983 Luan Jin Morten Frost 15-2, 13-15, 15-4 1984 Morten Frost Liem Swie King 9-15, 15-10, 15-10 1985 Zhao Jianhua Morten Frost 6-15, 15-10, 18-15 Suffice it to say that the AE was the unofficial world championships before the actual WC began.
