undeadshot
Regular Member
I think that this was the right decision, albeit harsh.
You may be right to not let the players go for what they have done. But I think disqualification for the OG was itself a highest degree of punishment any athlete can get. Banning the players for two years is going overboard. Their careers are literally over. Its like expelling a child forever from school for cheating in an exam. Dont you think that would be too much? Everybody needs a chance to correct themselves.
Korean Association has gone a bit too far. Firing coaches and reprimanding the players with other sort of punishment rather than banning them should've been reasonable as the players have already been punished during OG
Its not good for the sport of badminton as it would be loosing 4 world class players. I highly doubt if CHN would be following the suite not sure about INA though.
Let's see....they are banned from Korea....but if another country would like to employ overseas internationals to help represent them internationally and provide quality sparring partners.......hmmm, UK, Singapore, Germany.....
seems like KBA has done their calculationThe ban is 2 years. To represent another country, I think is also 2 years after last played for the home country. Maybe they would still continue to represent KOR after the ban. It could be earlier, minus Sundays, holidays and good behavior.
Just a clarification. KBA are their employers. If your employer fired you, can they ban you from working in that field for 2 years? Definitely not. Only BWF can enforce a worldwide ban and BWF only disqualified them from one tournament. To represent another country in things like Uber Cup would need more than 2 years. Not the case for SuperSeries tournaments.The ban is 2 years. To represent another country, I think is also 2 years after last played for the home country. Maybe they would still continue to represent KOR after the ban. It could be earlier, minus Sundays, holidays and good behavior.
Just a clarification. KBA are their employers. If your employer fired you, can they ban you from working in that field for 2 years? Definitely not. Only BWF can enforce a worldwide ban and BWF only disqualified them from one tournament. To represent another country in things like Uber Cup would need more than 2 years. Not the case for SuperSeries tournaments.
Remember the M'sian singles player who left BAM (forgot the name now). He can still play tournaments outside of Malaysia - it's just that he cannot be registered by BAM.
So, KBA can ban them from playing Korean badminton. It is definitely not the case that they can be banned from working for other badminton associations.
Please be reminded that these players went to the Olympics to win the gold medal, not to win every match, every game or every point. They would have proven that they are the best when they have the gold medal hanging on their necks. Even with a deliberate loss, they are still true to their mission.
Please be reminded that these players went to the Olympics to win the gold medal, not to win every match, every game or every point. They would have proven that they are the best when they have the gold medal hanging on their necks. Even with a deliberate loss, they are still true to their mission. Surely, those ugly matches were detrimental to the sport and all involved players should be and had been punished. That should be the end of it. I can't help but feel that BWF wanted to use the opportunity to send a message to LYB. If that's the case, I don't disagree with it either. But the attack on the players must stop. They were just doing their job and they paid for their poor performance (literally and figuratively) already.In contrast, the British cyclists and rowers exhibited even less sportsmanship than these players but they were hailed as heroes. Where is the justice?
I agree with your views. In addition I am of the opinion that WBF should be punished too. It is not unknown to WBF that group matches can be manipulated to suit the needs of each player or team. I remember teams playing to loose in group matches in order not to face a perceived strong opponent in the QF when they were already assured their berths in the QF in previous versions of TC/UC/SC. That's why WBF came out with the draw to match up the teams for the QF in the more recent TC/UC/SC. How come WBF didn't do the same thing for the LOG? It can be easily done even if we need to separate teams from the same country until the finals. A better format is to have 8 groups of 3 pairs with only the group winner going through. The number of matches involved will still be 24 like the LOG format. More country will be able to participate and to ensure that badminton will be played at the highest level the top 8 pairs of the world should automatically qualify to head the 8 groups. More country can participate and the game will be played at the highest level as well. Otherwise it may become easier to medal at the Olympics than in the SS.I suggest that IOC impose a fine of US 10 million on WBF for the blunder if it still wants to be in the Olympics.
Pity Kim Min Jung/Ha Jung Eun and Kim Ha Na/Jung KyUNG Eun... i hope their appeal is succesful... imo, this decision is very very harsh to them... what will happen to their career after this??
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RedShuttle said:Please be reminded that these players went to the Olympics to win the gold medal, not to win every match, every game or every point. They would have proven that they are the best when they have the gold medal hanging on their necks. Even with a deliberate loss, they are still true to their mission.
thunder.tw said:I keep seeing this bull$hit being written over and over again. Folks!! THEY BROKE THE RULES ie THEY CHEATED. There is no justification for doing so. You could write the same crap about any other type of cheating.