Is BAM going in the right direction?

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  1. pBmMalaysia

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    obviously that would either be due to injury or funds from sponsors. Have spoken to the father before and also ncc regarding zz.
    How i wish zz's father was right! Can't work with bam so if his improvement is slow something needs to change and fast but that remains to be seen :eek:
     
  2. cobalt

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    Why so hush-hush over Lee Chong Wei?
    Sandra John
    October 25, 2014

    http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/highlight/2014/10/25/why-so-hush-hush-over-lee-chong-wei/

    Excerpts:

    ...Half-truths, noncommittal responses and, in some cases, maddening stretches of silence are the preferred mode of crisis management while a plausible Plan B is hastily hatched and despatched.

    And so it goes in the case of Lee Chong Wei, our darling of badminton, who recently tested positive for a banned substance called dexamethasone.

    ...If, as has been proffered, Lee tested positive for a banned substance he unknowingly consumed or used topically, then why the secrecy? Why the scandalised silence and the refusal to acknowledge the elephant in the room?

    Do these ministers and officials not realise that the more they attempt to conceal information from the public, the more it looks like a crime has knowingly been committed?

    Any amount of upright (and usually uptight) statements to the press about “zero tolerance”, “accountability”, and “thorough investigations” come off sounding like painfully rehearsed public relations lines that fool no one, especially a growingly disgruntled public that know better than to lap up the sweet nothings of government officials.

    ...Our Wushu exponent Tai Cheau Xuen failed a drug test because she unknowingly took a banned substance. If this is also the case with Lee, isn’t it about time Malaysia stood up for him instead of whisper in corners, too embarrassed about the international humiliation?

    The cloak-and-dagger manoeuvrings are uncalled for. So are mysterious meetings that no one wants to own up to.

    Since no answers are as yet forthcoming, are we to assume the meeting our minister had with Lee was not over the doping scandal but over something with more serious undertones?

    There is already unpleasant mutterings about match-fixing involving a Malaysian fixer. A police report on the matter has already been lodged by the Badminton World Federation after two Danish players complained about being approached to “throw” a match.

    The silence surrounding Lee is doing nothing to dispel our fears that something larger and far more humiliating and criminal is lurking in the shadows.
     
  3. pBmMalaysia

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    buying time for sample b :D
     
  4. nokh88

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    Courtesy of The Star :

    The tall cool Dane is back in BAM

    by rajes paul


    KUALA LUMPUR: Former Danish great Morten Frost Hansen has been hired to revive Malaysian badminton’s fortunes.

    Youth and Sports Minister Khairy Jamaluddin announced the appointment of Frost on Tuesday.

    The former All-England men’s singles champion will start work as the national technical director for Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) next March.

    The 56-year-old Frost will coordinate the programmes from the development to the elite level and empower the coaches at the national centre.

    BAM have been without a “national coaching director” to plan, strategise and coordinate the training and coaching programmes for some time.

    This is a second big stint for Frost with the national team. He was with BAM for 3½ years from 1997-2000 as national coaching director.

    His past dealings and insights into Malaysia’s system and his vast experience as a player and coach will surely be an asset to the country.

    His appointment is also timely as Malaysian badminton is grappling with news that one of its athletes, said to be world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei, has failed a dope test in a major tournament.

    BAM are also facing a serious shortage of talents in the singles department while Chong Wei has had two heartbreaks – letting slip his best chance of winning the world title in Copenhagen in August and the men’s singles title at the Asian Games in Incheon last month.

    BAM deputy president Datuk Norza Zakaria welcomed Khairy’s announcement.

    “We are grateful that the National Sports Council (NSC) have hired Morten and he will be seconded to BAM,” said Norza.

    “Our minister, BAM president (Tengku Tan Sri Mahaleel Tengku Arif) and I had met in August to discuss the hiring of a technical director. I’m grateful that our minister has fulfilled our wish by assisting us in engaging Morten.

    Asked about the cost involved in hiring Frost, Norza said: “His appointment comes under NSC’s payroll.”

    The last time BAM tried to hire Frost, it was learnt that his asking price was RM100,000 a month.

    The lanky Dane was approached again after the World Championships in Copenhagen in August and, this time, the big budget given to the Youth and Sports Ministry did the trick.

    Norza hopes that Frost’s presence would be in tune with their aim of becoming the top three badminton nations by 2020.

    Frost will also be targeted to produce Olympic Games and world champions and increase the pool of talent in the country.

    “With Morten around, we can start looking at our long-term programmes and also to some positive changes in badminton,” said Norza.

    Morten’s return is indeed good news but his presence will be futile if BAM do not give him the full power and mandate to run the show or if the top brass continue to interfere and meddle in technical matters.

    Sources : here

    Is this right for MF?
     
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    I wonder what does MF think he could do for BAM. Someone must have promised something big. Might not be financially but something rather delicate
     
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    BAM may have heard MF's commentaries and finally relented.
    GC has to look for a new partner.
     
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    ^ Of course it's right for MF... more than RM100000 per month! That's RM1.2 million per year!

    You're right though, MF must've been promised some sort of authority as he's not really in it for the money if he didn't think it was worth his effort and the struggle he'll surely face. But I wonder if BAM is truly ready for wide sweeping changes. I wonder how long he can last there before he steps on someone's toes that are high enough on the food chain at BAM. It'll be interesting to see for sure.

    And I'll miss his games commentating banter with Gill Clark. And his self-declared commentator's curse where the players immediately proceed to lose the point right after he praises them for their play.
     
  8. SibugiChai

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    RM100k not a lot of money in danmark,

    hopefully MF is tough enuff to step on few toes and survive, i dont think he can improve the system without making few enemies. that's why msia need a foreigner to lead because foreigner can & dare to steps on toes on VVIP. If a local do that, next day, he will be GONE ! Like that computer geek guy
     
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    That's $30,600 USD per month, being $1000 USD per day, even on Saturdays and Sundays and holidays! Even doctors don't make that kind of money... :p

    And that was just the initial figure that was tossed around. He probably gets more than that after some negotiating.
     
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  10. pBmMalaysia

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    A new thread should be up for mf. who knows it could generate a lot of traffic when he switches on his pressure cooker in march next year :D
     
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    good change... time to whip them up... he's hearing me alright.. lol. ;)
     
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    What do you mean "even doctors"? Doctors around your area earn quite a bit then. :)

    Danish taxes are pretty high though.

    Just wonder how much of a mandate he is going to be given.
     
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    Just wonder what major contributions MF had made during his last 3 1/2 years stint with Malaysian badminton then. Was there any major achievement during his term?

    Realistically, how much more value can he add to the existing Malaysian national squad without interfering with the work of the current coaches? I suppose he had to show results say within 3 years.
     
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    Supposedly his major contribution was to identify LCW as a player of talent.

    They had a pretty decent team then. Just remember during those times there were other coaches such as Park Joo Bong and Indra Gunawan who left BAM.

    Good questions about how much value he can add. However, it's probably more accurate to say how much can BAM support him rather than restrict him.

    It must irk BAM to have had coaches that are now enjoying success with other countries. So Bam must ask itself why can these coaches be successful in other countries/environments but not in Malaysia. Why did Park Joo Bong turn down BAM? Why did Morten Frost turn down BAM? Why was Yap Kim Hock so successful with Juniors but less so with the seniors.
     
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    Now that MF has agreed to return to MAS, can we assume he must have cleared all, if not most, of his previous obstacles with BAM and will be given a free hand to achieve his objectives.

    This would be most surprising as previous episodes of encounters with the BAM hierarchy mainly resulted in the negative. I wonder whether the big boss will allow a derailment of MF's action plan.
     
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    when MF in BAM, most 4-5 Malaysian MS players in top 30, when MF not in BAM, only 1 (LCW) in top 30...
     
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    I'm quite shocked when you said this!

    So I went to BWF website and found out the following:

    Wei Feng CHONG
    Now WR26, best 12, 9/5/2013

    Darien LIEW
    Now WR57, best 10, 3/7/2013
     
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    Believe when/if we see it.
     
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    LOL... if we gonna compare MF with doctors, we gonna compare him with the TOP doctor because MF is top of his field...

    I think what MF earn compare to TOP doctor is peanuts
     
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    What is a realistic time frame for player development? Two years?

    BAM's in-house lawyer already said no talent in the present squad ... Hmm.
     
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