What is the difference between smash power and smash speed?
Surely if the shuttle or hall conditions isn't a variable here (same shuttle used and same hall each time) the power of the smash determines the shuttle speed. So fast is powerful and slow is less powerful always.What is the difference between smash power and smash speed?
If you mean it looks like a fast smash but the shuttle speed is slower than you expect then the difference is the less elastic properties of the racket and string. More energy is lost to other things like sound and friction.
What is the difference between smash power and smash speed?
If you mean it looks like a fast smash but the shuttle speed is slower than you expect then the difference is the less elastic properties of the racket and string. More energy is lost to other things like sound and friction.
This thread covers it quite well. The body weight should not have a direct impact. It's the weight of the moving objects, from arm to racket that produce power. Bigger bodies could well be more muscular so can contribute more velocity to the arm and racket. So, redefine body weight at "well built, muscular" but it does not mean body builders can smash through walls.
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the speed of the shuttle at various points once it leaves the racket.So are you saying that the powerful looking smash of Praveen Jordan is due to elastic properties of racket and string??
We all see how powerful the smash of Goh V Shem are and they are properly quick!
Praveen Jordan's smashes also look powerful but they aren't as fast at all! How? Why?
I understand that Goh V Shem smashes looks faster because they are more steep. Could it be the same reason for Praveen? Could be.
im not sure how to explain what i feel but i measure speed by seeing it so some seems to feel faster than others.I don't see how one can distinguish between a powerful smash and a fast smash other than shuttle speed and time (time for the shuttle to leave the stringbed
im not sure how to explain what i feel but i measure speed by seeing it so some seems to feel faster than others.
Other hand i also feel the impact on my racket stringbed. Some feel light yet some feel heavy like the shuttle pushing the racket back.
& what i notice, faster smash seems lighter but slower one feel heavier.
Maybe it just my feeling or just my mind, idk how to explain it, so it can be true or might just be false.
That's right, the mass of the arm can be imposed upon the racket swing, more so if technique is properly used.
i doubt an additional weight might add some power. Im muscleman myself 82kg 179cm, quite bulky myselfAn interesting experiment would be a weight attached to arm and seeing effect on hitting it. Also a weighted backpack like an atlas pack maybe, or just weights in a heavy duty rucksack, would be an interesting experiment.
I've thought about this for a while, and I believe it's purely psychological.
The only information carried by the shuttle is the shuttle's mass, speed, and trajectory - only the mass and speed can be adjusted by the smasher. Regardless of a player's build, a single speed and trajectory MUST behave the same when it hits the defenders racquet, assuming the defender's racquet is in the same position.
My feeling is there are several reasons to account for the 'heavy/power' smash Vs 'fast/light' smash, but all are summed up by the idea of consistency/control:
There are always 'outliers' which is why this informs my opinion. I have played against smaller players who I feel have 'heavy/power' smashes, and also against larger players who hit a lot of 'fast/light' smashes - I find the biggest difference is how deceptive and predictable they are overall as players. Deceptive players tend to have the fast/light style smashes that you just can't get to and predictable players have either light/fast smashes that are easier to return, or heavy smashes that are not (but I'm still able to retrieve them). Deceptive players aiming 'light/fast' smashes at the body can make them feel quite heavy indeed
- Perception of opponent - simply put, we do not expect a big smash from a smaller player. The reaction time is therefore slower and the shuttle often zips past because they played the shot already, and alternatively, because they are smaller, there is less psychological burden when you see you have given away an easy smash. This gives the effect of either not getting a shuttle, or being able more easily defend with control.
- Racquet technique/preparation: larger players often have more compact movements, but are able still to impart a decent amount of force into the shuttle due to having large muscles - this is particularly apparent at amateur play where e.g. men often hit doubly as hard as women with even stick smashes (the gap closes in pro play). This means simply that larger players are genuinely hitting the shuttle harder than lighter players with less movement. Overall this is less reaction time. However, the rough direction is often more obvious, because the power is coming from the arm/shoulder rather than full body/pronation/grip tightening.
- Finally, both of the above feed into the defender's control of the stroke. Against a 'heavy/power' smasher, we are likely to mistime/mishit the shuttle and lose a lot of control/power in our returns, even if we know the rough direction, simply because we have less time to react to the shuttle. Against a 'light/fast' smash, we are either less likely to get to the shuttle at all, or we still be better able to predict and defend the shuttle with control.
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I think you are on to something ... the unexpected and short swing? Why i think so?
Lin Dan's stick smash looks more deadly than other players full smash even though it isn't as fast.
I should clarify that Praveen Jordan’s smash “could be” because of less elastic properties. He uses a pretty stiff racket but I don’t know what string or tension but when you can hit as hard as he does repulsion is not a priority. Additionally his smashes sound loud. The presence of sound is a sign of energy being lost. Again, some strings just make more sound than others and at different tones. A loud boom sounds more impressive compared to a loud ping but neither is a good indicator of outright speed.So are you saying that the powerful looking smash of Praveen Jordan is due to elastic properties of racket and string??
We all see how powerful the smash of Goh V Shem are and they are properly quick!
Praveen Jordan's smashes also look powerful but they aren't as fast at all! How? Why?
I understand that Goh V Shem smashes looks faster because they are more steep. Could it be the same reason for Praveen? Could be.
Im muscleman myself 82kg 179cm, quite bulky myself........
I think he would have called himself a "fat man" instead if he had so much body fat and little muscle in his body.Those numbers don't indicate much re muscle. Eg at what body fat (I would guess you never even checked)
Also you make such a big deal about muscular size but you don't say a word re strength.
What are the figures for your compound lifts(if any). And I guess you do some if you say you are a muscle man. Or maybe not. Maybe you think a "muscle man" can be any fat person walking cos they carry their own weight.