Congratulations Lin Dan :)

[Loh]

god, how i hated morten frost - he brought death along with him and killed the game for many like us. totally uninspiring and ruthless (i mean merciless), even towards his good old friend steve baddeley whom he once thrashed the daylights out of. he literally sucked the life out of the game for me. for the good of badminton, i totally wish lcw does not end up like morten frost. morten frost is one 'legend' i would like to forget; brings back many unpleasant memories in badminton. so far, i can see almost all the players these days are the emotive and/or affectionate kind which makes it really fun to watch. i'm enjoying it a lot these past few years - it makes me wanna be like them on and off court!

Pray tell me who did you like during that Frost era and why?

 

[BadFever]

Hahahaha....this thread is getting really funny. Keep it coming, guys.

 

[Jonc108]

i'm not saying he's cocky or smth... he's not apologizing when he hits the shuttle that touches the net and fall on the other side like every other players did. I saw LD keeps raising his hand apologizing even when LCW/any other players made a mistake at the net, wonder why was that? hahaha...

Many people notice such interesting "unique" behavior of LCW amongst the top players but not dare to point it out here in BC... coz u know... hehehe... It's Boleh-Central here... . hehe...

 

[Jonc108]

Good job LINDAN! Facing TH,SS,LCW in a row and going all the way!

As for LCW being "cocky", well, I noticed this little change personality of LCW since 2008. Whenever LCW plays LD, he's shouting/pumping fist, I think it's a way to give himself confidence in the game. While on the other hand, LD has become more polite / humble (you all remember how he was back in the days, right?). TXF taught LD to control his temper, and it really works for LD.

IMO, LCW after 2008 is in some way quite similar to LD after 2004: eager to win more to compensate the failure to take Gold medal at OG, or to prove in another way for same purpose...

I felt that LCW change in may ways after 2008, apart from what u mentioned, he also improved a lot in technique. He became more speedy, powerful and invincible for all players other than LD...

From this perspective, LCW must thank LD.

Yet, as said by other BCers, LD should also thank LCW for keeping to be the closest and the only real consistent challenger, that also pushes LD to evolve in order to keep himself ahead of LCW on court.

However, every sensible man knowing badminton would know who's better from badminton point of view.

So congratulations to LD!

 

[Jonc108]

Let's hope no one will ever say LD is 'afraid' of LCW ever again.

and yes, Congratulations to Lin Dan. You could have finished him off with 2 sets but with your injury it's understandable, wish you all the best!

There is no need to hope, I guarantee you there would be people saying LD afraid of LCW very soon...

 

[pBmMalaysia]

Many people notice such interesting "unique" behavior of LCW amongst the top players but not dare to point it out here in BC... coz u know... hehehe... It's Boleh-Central here... . hehe...

Each and everyone of them has a 'unique' behavior

and there is nothing wrong in pointing it out

It's the way bc members point it out lol

Starting lcw with his non apologetic behavior,

probably he feels it is normal

or maybe he wants to show ld he is the 'man'

Either way it's not that bad, eh?

And with ld's recent blowing of his nose here

and there and in front of the camera?

Though its a bit indiscipline, its not so much of a big deal, is it?

Some may not agree and suggested he should get time off for that

otherwise he is spreading germs all over the court

Now I am beginning to think maybe these members are correct,

it could have been those germs that caused lcw that match : D

 

[Jonc108]

Each and everyone of them has a 'unique' behavior

and there is nothing wrong in pointing it out

It's the way bc members point it out lol

Starting lcw with his non apologetic behavior,

probably he feels it is normal

or maybe he wants to show ld he is the 'man'

Either way it's not that bad, eh?

And with ld's recent blowing of his nose here

and there and in front of the camera?

Though its a bit indiscipline, its not so much of a big deal, is it?

Some may not agree and suggested he should get time off for that

otherwise he is spreading germs all over the court

Now I am beginning to think maybe these members are correct,

it could have been those germs that caused lcw that match : D

Both appear to be not nice but we should see it from the basics.

Gesture of apology for lucky shots is a recognized badminton game manner (u could call it hypocrisy, like it or not). As a world class player "known for good manner", it's normal people would expect him to do so as all top players do, otherwise would by seen as anti-social...

LD was having flu during KO (according to commentators during KO broadcasting, I cannot prove anyway ). If this is true, he must be suffering blocking noses during the matches. The umpire did not allow him to stop so frequently to wipe nicely during the competition. What should he do? Having nose blocking to loss if not death? Or WO? (therefore I agree what you said, it might be LD's germs caused LCW the match, LCW should consider to appeal on this basis... )

I m sure his sponsors would also don't like see his nose-blowing in front of the camera, neither did LD himself as this would be undesirable to his commercial advertising image! LD must be losing money therefore...

 

[eaglehelang]

Many people notice such interesting "unique" behavior of LCW amongst the top players but not dare to point it out here in BC... coz u know... hehehe... It's Boleh-Central here... . hehe...

Hahaha, no such thing as dont dare, you all constantly critise & nitpick at LCW, from the food poisoning case to TC, to press intv, etc. More so than the so called boleh fans, but if we comment little wee bit abt LD/China players, wow, jump with intensity like from high mountain, lol. Even certain well informed INA fans are not spared.

 

[pBmMalaysia]

Both appear to be not nice but we should see it from the basics.

Gesture of apology for lucky shots is a recognized badminton game manner (u could call it hypocrisy, like it or not). As a world class player "known for good manner", it's normal people would expect him to do so as all top players do, otherwise would by seen as anti-social...

LD was having flu during KO (according to commentators during KO broadcasting, I cannot prove anyway ). If this is true, he must be suffering blocking noses during the matches. The umpire did not allow him to stop so frequently to wipe nicely during the competition. What should he do? Having nose blocking to loss if not death? Or WO? (therefore I agree what you said, it might be LD's germs caused LCW the match, LCW should consider to appeal on this basis... )

I m sure his sponsors would also don't like see his nose-blowing in front of the camera, neither did LD himself as this would be undesirable to his commercial advertising image! LD must be losing money therefore...

Yes, Lin Dan had a cold and he was damn smart about it

I don't think the umpire would allow him too many time off for that

As a matter of fact the umpire didn't mind either,

those sticky yellowish slimery leftover by Lin Dan on the floor

What about some of his fans? I don't hear complain so I suppose they love it

 

[chris-ccc]

It's BolehCentral here

Many people notice such interesting "unique" behavior of LCW amongst the top players but not dare to point it out here in BC... coz u know... hehehe... It's Boleh-Central here... . hehe...

Hahaha, no such thing as dont dare, you all constantly critise & nitpick at LCW, from the food poisoning case to TC, to press intv, etc. More so than the so called boleh fans, but if we comment little wee bit abt LD/China players, wow, jump with intensity like from high mountain, lol. Even certain well informed INA fans are not spared.

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So surprised that BadmintonCentral is now known as BolehCentral.

Is this criticising BadmintonCentral or what?
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[chris-ccc]

I believed this thread will be closed soon

So surprised that BadmintonCentral is now known as BolehCentral.

Is this criticising BadmintonCentral or what?

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I believed this thread will be closed soon.
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[Pharaoh]

lin dan has basically shut lcw and taufik up once and for all for bad-mouthing him when he withdrew from the malaysian open last week even though the malaysian doctor had certified lin dan to be unfit for his quarter-final match with chen long. both of them wanted the badminton world federation (bwf) to investigate into the validity of lin dan's withdrawal and penalize him - how unprofessional and unbecoming of them!

between the 2 players, i think lin dan has got more grace and class than lcw. i always hate to see lcw going up to his opponent to shake their hands after he had won the game and trying to show some empathy - how hypocritical! this time when lin dan won, he simply shied away almost immediately without any grace and class - i guess he was in a state of shock and disbelief with himself and can't muster enough courage to congratulate lin dan properly after the game.

i strongly believe lcw really thought he can beat lin dan this time and was even cocky during some exchanges in the match but time and time again, lin dan has proven that lcw is still second best to him in the world. with this victory, even the most ardent lcw fan or lin dan hater would have to admit that lin dan is simply the greatest player ever to walk this earth.

Kindly refer to 3rd game 11 pts interval... LCW asked for a change of shuttle but LD refused, and right before LD serves, LD apologized. Isn't this more hypocritical? and btw LD changed shuttle after that point. Also, there is reason why LCW won't apologize to LD every time he got a lucky shot, because he is quite fed up with LD hypocritical behavior. LCW did apologize to other players when he got lucky. He is not cocky.

 

[chris-ccc]

Both LD and LCW are not cocky

Kindly refer to 3rd game 11 pts interval... LCW asked for a change of shuttle but LD refused, and right before LD serves, LD apologized. Isn't this more hypocritical? and btw LD changed shuttle after that point. Also, there is reason why LCW won't apologize to LD every time he got a lucky shot, because he is quite fed up with LD hypocritical behavior. LCW did apologize to other players when he got lucky. He is not cocky.

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IMHO, both LD and LCW are not cocky. Only opposite fans of their idols are bashing each other here, at BadmintonCentral.
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[benjamin59]

and seem to be obsessed in trying to establish his legacy as world no. 1 but unfortunately, or fortunately. the annal of badminton history will always coin him as a 2nd fiddle to lin dan!

In the star 6th feb "I won the 100th edition of the All-England last year and it is ....."(LCW). the '100th'.(the mother of all All-Englands).

 

[taneepak]

LCW has now changed his court behavior when playing against LD. He is trying to use more mind games to rattle and antagonize LD, as shown in the Asian Games and the Korean SS. This even extends outside the court as shown by the unfriendly comments from LCW, with some support from his good friend TH, about LD missing the Malaysian SS. This is perfectly acceptable. However, it is unfortunate it does not work against LD.
Perhaps, LCW may want to do something more unpredictable to give him an edge over LD. MS is a past master in this and he may want to come up with something that will really rattle LD the next time.

 

[BadFever]

LCW has now changed his court behavior when playing against LD. He is trying to use more mind games to rattle and antagonize LD, as shown in the Asian Games and the Korean SS. This even extends outside the court as shown by the unfriendly comments from LCW, with some support from his good friend TH, about LD missing the Malaysian SS. This is perfectly acceptable. However, it is unfortunate it does not work against LD.
Perhaps, LCW may want to do something more unpredictable to give him an edge over LD. MS is a past master in this and he may want to come up with something that will really rattle LD the next time.

In this case, Li Mao is the best so far. I think LM alone can rattle both LD+LYB anytime.

 

[flite]

LCW has now changed his court behavior when playing against LD. He is trying to use more mind games to rattle and antagonize LD, as shown in the Asian Games and the Korean SS. This even extends outside the court as shown by the unfriendly comments from LCW, with some support from his good friend TH, about LD missing the Malaysian SS. This is perfectly acceptable. However, it is unfortunate it does not work against LD.
Perhaps, LCW may want to do something more unpredictable to give him an edge over LD. MS is a past master in this and he may want to come up with something that will really rattle LD the next time.

Or could it be TH and LCW simply speak their minds out about the fact that LD w/o in certain tournaments and did not cunningly twist their words. It goes the same on LCW so called unfriendly comments. It could be you (us BCers) that read too much on it.

 

[taneepak]

Or could it be TH and LCW simply speak their minds out about the fact that LD w/o in certain tournaments and did not cunningly twist their words. It goes the same on LCW so called unfriendly comments. It could be you (us BCers) that read too much on it.

There are other players in the circuit who did not voice the LCW/TH 'orchestrated' comments about LD. Apparently, the fact that it was a Malaysian doctor who examined LD did not prevent comments from LCW/TH. Maybe, they jumped the gun with their comments before bothering to find out who gave LD the clearance to not play based on medical grounds.

 

[miss.boon]

There are other players in the circuit who did not voice the LCW/TH 'orchestrated' comments about LD. Apparently, the fact that it was a Malaysian doctor who examined LD did not prevent comments from LCW/TH. Maybe, they jumped the gun with their comments before bothering to find out who gave LD the clearance to not play based on medical grounds.

it was so obvious dat super dan was having a flu.
a few times u can see him blowing his nose.
and juz bcos he is super dan doesn't mean he is superman.
sometimes he succumb to sickness and injuries too.

 

[taneepak]

It is one thing to employ 'mind' games during a match, which is part of the overall game plan of a game and therefore acceptable, but it is not nice to do it outside the court. Using the press to express their comments and then having the cheek to suggest to the BWF to investigate LD's withdrawal is hitting below the belt. It is tasteless.