2016 TOTAL BWF TUC Finals - Day 8 (22nd May) : THOMAS Cup FINAL

Anthony Ginting finally lost his first team-event match as Jan O' Joergensen takes the match in straight-sets 21-17, 21-12. Anthony simply made too many errors and couldn't find a way to get past the Danes. Treat this as a learning experience and come back stronger 2 years later!

INA's MD2 Angga Pratama/Ricky Karanda Suwardi have to take the next tie to prevent DEN from winning the Thomas Cup for the first-time.
 
Jonatan Christie has been the only one of the MS trio from Indo that has regularly challenged top 5-10 players. But he is the youngest of them all, being only 18, and perhaps the pressure may have been too much.
 
I do feel like DEN will take MD too..
INA 2nd MD is not really strong and consistent compare to Ahsan/Setiawan
 
kwun said:
sorry. but all these talk about Ginting and talent just doesn't make sense.

Taufik at 14 was a talent. Ginting is not talent.
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Yes Hidayat won his first international title at the age of 15. Ridiculous, must still be a record?
 
Loh said:
Chinese culture is changing as the world is now open to anybody who has the means.
Young Chinese are also changing in their thinking. What they learn from the old Chinese culture may not apply in today's world.
The better they know of the old China, perhaps the worse it is for them to adapt to the present world.
If Sun Yat Sen did not start the ball rolling to modernize China, she will still be in pigtails and under many 'emperors and warlords'.
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You're referring to the Qing Dynasty which made a terrible mistake of isolating itself due to internal corruption and power struggle, despite reformer Kang Youwei's efforts. For the earlier centuries, it's the rest of the world holding China in awe and eager to learn from her, Marco Polo travelling all the way to China is one prominent example.

Actually, if you asked the experts, it's not only China learning from the world but also the other way nowadays, both ways.
 
Putting Ihsan Maulana Mustofa as MS3 is both a risk and also an opportunity. I personally think DEN will win the Cup but anything can happen. INA has to first win the next tie.
 
Loh said:
Well China has to change its Communist outlook and learn from the Capitalists to help it to upgrade economically.
A very demeaning change I would think, but again out of necessity.
Precisely, if China did not change, she will be dominated by foreign powers for a much longer time.
But now new realities demand new changes.
And if the economically transformed China, with such a huge population, continues to exert its power, especially against its smaller neighbours, we are not going to have prolonged peace and stability as what we've enjoyed for such a long time.
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It depends on what you understand and mean by Communism and Capitalism, a very huge topic, let's not get into the discussion here, too complicated. Suffice for me to say, China is building Socialism with Chinese characteristics, to use Deng Xiaoping's famous words.
 
Loh said:
You are wrong as there were responses and rebuttals.
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Loh, sir, your level of intellect and global awareness far exceeds the average forum participant here, in this case, dogged (and dogmatic?) uni-dimensional fans who lack broader perspectives of sport and the world.

Ah, how youth is wasted on the young...
 
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