Many times, when the news media wanted to emphasis that there was no clear favorite for the title, they usually said any seed or anyone from top 16 could win the title. They even quoted as Xia or other top players said similar thing. But look at the ranking, do you really think anyone in the top 16 can win a 5 star and above title, and no chance for lower ranked players. The following is the seed for World championship and also the top 16 in the ranking during July 24 –August 1: Code: 1 CHEN Hong CHN 3,375.98 2 JONASSEN Kenneth DEN 2,706.00 3 XIA Xuanze CHN 2,532.33 4 WONG Choong Hann MAS 2,211.00 5 BOESEN Anders DEN 2,178.00 6 KUNCORO Sony Dwi INA 2,129.25 7 HIDAYAT Taufik INA 1,884.21 8 SUSILO Ronald SIN 1,872.00 9 KALDAU Niels Christian DEN 1,740.00 10 YAMADA Hidetaka JPN 1,723.45 11 NG Wei HKG 1,669.50 12 SHON Seung Mo KOR 1,644.00 13 LEE Hyun II KOR 1,641.58 14 HARIYANTO * Agus HKG 1,621.35 15 WACHA Przemyslaw POL 1,519.68 16 JOPPIEN Bjoern GER 1,419.15 Is any one from the above list can win the Championship? I don’t think so. I will definitely exclude Denmark’s Boesen, and Kaldau, Hong Kong’s Ng and Hariyanto, Japan’s Yamada, Poland’s Wacha, and Germany’s Joppien. No one else outside this list could win the Championship? I don’t think so either. I will include China’s Bao, Lin, Chen Yu, Malaysia’s Lee TS, Hafiz, Roslin, and Denmark’s Gade. Therefore, I don’t think the ranking has much meanings. Now players are fighting for ranking points for Olympics, so now the ranking (although ranking system has many pitfalls) caught many attentions. The Olympics points have been collected since the World Championship. I am wondering why I cannot find the ranking for the Olympic anywhere on the internet. Therefore I calculated myself for selected players. The following players are chosen based on their performance: World Championship Final 4: Xia, Wong, Bao, Shon Singapore Open Fianl 4: Chen Hong, Chen Yu, Lin, Lee HI Indonesia Open Final 4: Chen Hong, Lee HI, Wu, Hidayat I noticed that it is not balanced here between nations: 6 Chinese (7 times): Xia, Chen Hong(2), Chen Yu, Lin, Bao, Wu 2 Koreans(3 times): Lee HI(2), Shon 1 from Malaysia: Wong 1 from Indonesia: Hidayat Therefore, I add 6 more from Malaysia to the list: Susilo, Roslin, Lee TS, Hafiz, Sony, Gade. Here is my potential title holder list, or the seeds (or top 16) who can really win a title: Code: total wc singapore indonesia ChenHong 1146 330 480 336 Lee HI 912 240 336 336 Bao 876 420 264 192 Shon 876 420 192 264 Xia 792 600 192 0 Lin Dan 768 240 336 192 Susilo 768 240 264 264 Wong 702 510 192 0 Roslin 642 330 120 192 Taufik 576 240 0 336 ChenYu 528 0 408 120 Sony 522 330 0 192 LeeTS 516 60 192 264 Hafiz 390 150 48 192 Wu 336 0 0 336 Gade 324 60 264 0 If you have anyone else who’s capable to win, let me know. Note: Ng and Jonassen also did pretty good recently too, but I don’t think they are not good enough to grab a title. Code: Ng 624 240 120 264 Jonassen 450 330 120 0
Wow...good job 2cents. I agree with you regarding the ranking issue. If based on current ranking list, almost half do not belong in the top 16. I hope the good ones will start performing and gaining points soon to reflect their true standing.
2cents, i tried to format your tables so the number shows up better. but still not a perfect. in future, you can try using the "code" vb code.
Rankings Nice analysis, worth more than 2 cents actually I think it is interesting to make an list of all olympic qualifiers after the malaysian open. Then we get a more complete picture that we can compare at that time with the updated world-rankinglist. For us, it's nice that in a preolympic year everyone, including all top players, have to do their best for a good ranking position and for good tournament results. - Mark. p.s. Does anyone know the exact rules for qualifying for the olympics? They are not completely objective, are they? I think there is room for some subjective judgements (like the requirement to show that one has 'maintained form'. What happens for example if Xia stays injured for a while, or if Ha Tae Kwon & Kim Dong Moon's ranking drops further due to Ha's injury?
Re: Rankings The exact rules for qualifying for the Olymipcs are found in http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/documents/ogqualregs.PDF
Very interesting and useful analysis. Thank you very much. But I was wondering, if you don't think Ng or Jonassen are good enough to grab a title, why would Lee Tsuen Sing or Ronald Susilo included in the contender list?
Re: Re: Who are hot and who are not You are right. One reason was that I wanted just 16 people to make it a complete seed list. Then the second reason was that I wrote down shuttlers from Malaysia first, then there was no space left for others. I admit that Ng and Jonassen are pretty good too. If I used the points stricted, then Peter Gade would have not been picked. In my personal opinion, it is not a surprise at all for him to grab a title. Thanks
