Victor DENMARK Open 2021 : R/32 to Final (19-24 October)

Shamwow said:
Viktor did very well to win today but Momota so far is only getting better and better with every match at a stupid rate. I can't wait to see another match between them again.
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I want to see them at the WC so badly, so far they haven't meet in either WC or the olympics
 
S owe know now - ASY and Momota will be the ones to watch on future tournaments

ASY to see her in her fittest and Momota to see if he get back his form and fitness!!!
 
Sumanth99 said:
But it wont come to stamina then right?
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Kento Momota developed an attacking game post Indonesia Super Series Premier 2019 that is up there with Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei and a (Viktor Axelsen that knows Momota doesn't exist)

My jaw was on the floor when I saw some of his J-League matches.

For the first time, I had seen a footwork that had even surpassed LD's to my eyes.
 
Yoji said:
How many SS has Axelsen won? 10? While Momota has 15 right?

so does the Olympic Gold make up for that difference? Whom do you think has achieved more in their career? I still think Momota , and also the H2H 14-2 as a factor.
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If momota doesn't have 2 WC golds in his resume I would say viktor, but that's not the case
 
Hassefar60 said:
You are trying to be cheeky. I am trying to be serious. KM has grown a lot the past few weeks. Sure he lost some matches in the team events but starting from his match against Christie, he started looking like the old KM. Fast pace and almost no errors.
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There has been progress, no doubt. However, just a few days ago, the (Danish) commentators said how much is missing in terms of speed, attack, accurary and so on. The same commentators said that VA was absolutely untouchable (this is a quote) at the moment. So when Momota loses it is convenient to say how bad he is and how he's never getting back and so on, but when he's up 22-20 and 17-14 against the "untouchable", he's suddenly, in the matter of two days, "back to his best", simply because people don't want to say VA is only winning narrowly against a bad version of KM.
And as far as "almost no errors" is concerned, I'd say he let like 8-9 shots drop that he easily could have played but misjudged on.

What's certain is that we'll hopefully get to enjoy more matches between these two in the future and that with KM getting better gradually, we might see even higher levels of play.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
There has been progress, no doubt. However, just a few days ago, the (Danish) commentators said how much is missing in terms of speed, attack, accurary and so on. The same commentators said that VA was absolutely untouchable (this is a quote) at the moment. So when Momota loses it is convenient to say how bad he is and how he's never getting back and so on, but when he's up 22-20 and 17-14 against the "untouchable", he's suddenly, in the matter of two days, "back to his best", simply because people don't want to say VA is only winning narrowly against a bad version of KM.
And as far as "almost no errors" is concerned, I'd say he let like 8-9 shots drop that he easily could have played but misjudged on.

What's certain is that we'll hopefully get to enjoy more matches between these two in the future and that with KM getting better gradually, we might see even higher levels of play.
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The commentators are just as clueless as you and me. They will say Cunning Linguist is the Greatest King walking on the planet when he/she is 20-0 Up against Nine Tailed Fox and then say Cunning Linguist is the worst to ever pick the racquet when NTF beats CL 22-20.
 
toonbaka said:
Congrats Viktor. Well deserved win. But who can stop him now…?
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I'm afraid VA now is the player to beat for every one. How long that will last is anybody's guess. But I'm certain he won't be dominant as Lee Zii Jia (not to mention Loh Kean Yew) and now Momota have demonstrated what needs to be done to beat VA.

I'm thinking, just taking a stab, perhaps we need someone who has Momota's ability to play a meticulous controlled game cum good anticipation and Lee Zii Jia's attacking ability and defense (which is not yet at Chen Long's level, but possibly good enough) to beat VA.
 
mohans said:
When was this? Please mention a few matches/tournaments he did that


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There was one tournament may be Den open? after WC'19, he thrashed BSP with attack. BSP during bronze celebration interview claimed he know how to beat KM and that he had developed some tactics for KM and then gets thrashed utterly.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
However, just a few days ago, the (Danish) commentators said how much is missing in terms of speed, attack, accurary and so on. The same commentators said that VA was absolutely untouchable (this is a quote) at the moment. So when Momota loses it is convenient to say how bad he is and how he's never getting back and so on, but when he's up 22-20 and 17-14 against the "untouchable", he's suddenly, in the matter of two days, "back to his best", simply because people don't want to say VA is only winning narrowly against a bad version of KM.
And as far as "almost no errors" is concerned, I'd say he let like 8-9 shots drop that he easily could have played but misjudged on.
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You mean the Danish commentators on the international feed right? I would have agreed with what they said a few days ago. If you had asked me Thursday, yes Momota was missing a lot in speed, attack and accuracy. But since Friday, he has been showing glimpses of his former level. But definitely not his stamina. The 8-9 shots he missed were missed because he was tired.

Of course I am slightly coloured, but I wouldn't call this a bad version of KM. KM at OG was a bad version of KM.
But there also seems to be a bias in the opposite direction: Consider this: If Momota never regains the position where he beats VA every time, will it then be because he never regained his former level or because VA has simply improved while Momota was out? Reading the comments in this thread up until game 3, there is very little acknowledgement of how much VA's stamina has improved. Some seem to not even be aware of it and still expect VA to run out of gas. VA's plan in this match was actually to play the running game (he said post match).

I hope for a similar final at the WC, maybe with a closer G3.. but the same winner :)
 
I am a fan of both KM and VA but for this instance, I supported VA because it's his home tournament which he has never won and in front of his relatives and friends and also I sympathise with him on the H2H of 1-14 coming into this match.
 
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