Victor CHINA Open 2018 : Round of 32-FINAL (18-23 September)

SEMIFINAL (12.00pm & 06.00pm) => https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/...F7CA6C-2774-46F8-8AB2-8D43429AE297&d=20180922

Men's Singles
  • Match of the day at quarterfinal round is presented by Anthony Ginting against defending champion Chen Long, high quality 85 minutes. Chen Long did well to take opening game, 21-18. then interesting part throughout whole match occured in second game, a rollercoaster fashion when Chen led 8-2 then Ginting took over 11-9 until 19-12, suddenly the defending champion bounced back to level the scoreline, luckily Ginting didn't panick to seal it, 22-20 and forced rubber games. At the deciding game, the Olympic Champion faltered to Ginting game plan. The unseeded Indonesian will face Chou Tien Chen who looks highly motivated here, Asian Games semifinal rematch. Ginting has really tough draw to meet prominent names starting from opening round, Lin Dan, Viktor Axelsen then Chen Long. Tomorrow's match will be stamina test for him after experienced gruelling quarterfinal match. Chou defeats Son Wan Ho convincingly, 21-17 / 21-14.
  • Hot favourite Kento Momota has very smooth path en route to semifinal, all two straight-sets with longest match only hits 35 minutes only including destroys Srikanth Kidambi, 21-9 / 21-11. His semifinal opponent is going to the script, home last man standing and China number one Shi Yuqi who displays modest perfomance to overcome Ng Ka Long, we'll see how the struggling and below-par Shi could balance full confident Momota tomorrow even the Chinese stated he's not in best physical condition.
Women's Singles
  • Carolina Marin is on course to reach final again, the roaring Spaniard tames local teenager Gao Fangjie in two straight-sets, competing experience plays the role in second game when Marin prevails, 24-22. As predicted earlier, Marin-Okuhara showdown will be WS semifinal highlight, both of them met last Sunday on Japan Open final. Former world champion Okuhara defeats the Indonesian blossoming talent Gregoria Mariska Tunjung, thanks to Japanese superb fitness to conquer the tiring Tunjung at deciding game.
  • Chen Yufei, the most consistent Chinese WS rekindles hope for home fans as her two compatriots downed earlier. Chen fought hard to eliminate Pusarla Sindhu in three games and will take on second seed Akane Yamaguchi who edges past He Bingjiao, 21-19 / 21-16. Yamaguchi-Chen faced off last week in JPN Open quarterfinal which saw the Chinese progressed.
Men's Doubles
  • The Minions eye China Open hat-trick and have bright prospect considering their semifinal opponent and final hurdle the day after tomorrow. Gideon/Sukamuljo continue to stamp authority, outclass teammates Pratama/Suwardi in two quick games. An uphill task for China back-up pair Han CK/Zhou HD to topple the unstoppable duo despite pushed world number one into three games at recent World Championships.
  • Out of prediction on bottom-half draw, second seed Li JH/Liu YC succumb to 8th seed Astrup/Rasmussen meekly, 12-21 / 13-21. Next, Danish number two will up against Chen HL/Wang CL who halt the promising Chinese youngsters He JT/Tan Q in close contest, 19-21 / 21-12 / 22-20.
Women's Doubles
  • Japan WD squad are back to business and looking all Japanese final, the Olympic Champion once again played rubber games here against the unheralded Danish combination Fruergaard/Thygesen. Matsutomo/Takahashi have Polii/Rahayu to secure last round ticket, head to head statistics favour to Japanese pair, won 6 times of seven encounters.
  • The surprising package in this category, Stefani and Gabriela Stoeva stun local favourite Chen QC/Jia YF in long duration match, which means no China WD representative safely through to last four. The Bulgarian pair have tall order to do another magic moment as reigning World Champion Matsumoto/Nagahara will be their next stumbling block. MatsuNaga beat fellow countrywomen top-seed Fukushima/Hirota at last eight.
Mixed Doubles
  • Zheng SW/Huang YQ pass sternest test at quarterfinal stage, almost sent packing by Thailand dangerous pair Puavaranukroh/Taerattanachai, 17-21 / 21-14 / 21-19. An Asian Games final rematch will pit the Chinese aces against HKG pair Tang CM/Tse YS who outmaneuver INA pair Suwardi/Susanto previously. China best chance once again relies on their mixed doubles pair.
  • One more Chinese pair Zhang N/Li YH knock out All England winner Watanabe/Higashino comfortably and will meet teammate Wang YL/Huang DP. World number two almost blow away their semifinal ticket, made blunder at 20-15 and Christiansen/Pedersen seized momentum to come back then force deuce, luck factor favoured to local pair, 28-26 at the end.
SESSION 1 (12.00pm) - three singles + two doubles matches
1) Anthony Sinisuka Ginting (INA) v Chou Tien Chen (TPE)
2) Zheng Siwei/Huang Yaqiong (CHN) v Tang Chun Man/Tse Ying Suet (HKG)
3) Kento Momota (JPN) v Shi Yuqi (CHN)
4) Marcus Fernaldi Gideon/Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo (INA) v Han Cheng Kai/Zhou Hao Dong (CHN)
5) Chen Yufei (CHN) v Akane Yamaguchi (JPN)

SESSION 2 (06.00pm) - one singles + four doubles matches
1) Mayu Matsumoto/Wakana Nagahara (JPN) v Gabriela Stoeva/Stefani Stoeva (BUL)
2) Carolina Marin (ESP) v Nozomi Okuhara (JPN)
3) Zhang Nan/Li Yinhui (CHN) v Wang Yilu/Huang Dongping (CHN)
4) Greysia Polii/Apriani Rahayu (INA) v Misaki Matsutomo/Ayaka Takahashi (JPN)
5) Chen Hung Ling/Wang Chi Lin (TPE) v Kim Astrup/Anders Skaarup Rasmussen (DEN)
 
yuquall said:
So are you suggesting that Wang/Huang kept losing to Zheng/Huang numerous times because of teams order? I highly doubt that.
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I agree with you in this case. But China has history....

"Badminton-centric blogs and online message boards are riddled with cheating allegations, some more substantiated than others. Chinese players are often at the center of these claims. As Tarek Hafi put it in Badzine (“The World’s No. 1 Badminton Webzine”), “crowds and badminton fans around the world have become accustomed to some trepidation before any match between two Chinese sides.” At the world championships in 2003, Chinese doubles players Yang Wei and Zhang Jiewen were accused of tanking a match so their opponent—another Chinese doubles team—would have a better chance of advancing. In the women’s semifinals at the 2004 Summer Olympics, China’s Zhou Mi was allegedly instructed by her coach “not to work too hard” in her match against teammate Zhang Ning. Zhang went on to win gold. The same thing is said to have happened at the 2000 Sydney Games, when Ye Zhaoying was told to lay down against Gong Zhichao. Gong eventually won gold."

https://slate.com/culture/2012/08/b...ng-to-lose-and-why-is-the-sport-so-dirty.html

This is why I said in another thread, Asian Games's system is the best. It cannot be cheated. you can only meet player from the same country in the final.
 
konak said:
I agree with you in this case. But China has history....

"Badminton-centric blogs and online message boards are riddled with cheating allegations, some more substantiated than others. Chinese players are often at the center of these claims. As Tarek Hafi put it in Badzine (“The World’s No. 1 Badminton Webzine”), “crowds and badminton fans around the world have become accustomed to some trepidation before any match between two Chinese sides.” At the world championships in 2003, Chinese doubles players Yang Wei and Zhang Jiewen were accused of tanking a match so their opponent—another Chinese doubles team—would have a better chance of advancing. In the women’s semifinals at the 2004 Summer Olympics, China’s Zhou Mi was allegedly instructed by her coach “not to work too hard” in her match against teammate Zhang Ning. Zhang went on to win gold. The same thing is said to have happened at the 2000 Sydney Games, when Ye Zhaoying was told to lay down against Gong Zhichao. Gong eventually won gold."

https://slate.com/culture/2012/08/b...ng-to-lose-and-why-is-the-sport-so-dirty.html

This is why I said in another thread, Asian Games's system is the best. It cannot be cheated. you can only meet player from the same country in the final.
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I know that China has its black history, but most of them happened under LYB's management and different situations.

But this time it is different with the XD domination. Most of the time both XD pairs reached the final without any aid from the other pairs. They are not that dominating anymore in any other disciplines to have the team order works.
 
Justin L said:
Of course, I'm not questioning the service judge's call, only to express the timing of the fault committed by Wang Yilu, hence the question mark and exclamation mark. How am I to know for sure if there's a service fault as seen on TV, even on TV replay ? You're clearly misreading my post or reading too much into it. Similarly for those three guys who agreed with you, so negative and suspicious of all of you. Oops, nothing personal.

Unless there is a camera placed strategically and viewing through the perspex gadget, we won't know what the service judge saw.
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Your wording was ambiguous, hence my cautionary sentence at the end. The point really stands on its own, and your post was merely a trigger so to speak.
Seeing how you explained your meaning now, I can only agree with you. Personally I wouldn't change anything about my serve in that situation, but IF you do - rather serve more conservatively, or this might happen :D
 
stanleyfm said:
agree
but I am still waiting for the time when BWF put a camera exactly at 115 so it can be reviewed, or possibly challenged in further future
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I'm still waiting for laser markers and a camera, similar to Hawkeye. Laser marker can be turned off after the serve to avoid any irritation for crouching players etc.
 
konak said:
I agree with you in this case. But China has history....

"Badminton-centric blogs and online message boards are riddled with cheating allegations, some more substantiated than others. Chinese players are often at the center of these claims. As Tarek Hafi put it in Badzine (“The World’s No. 1 Badminton Webzine”), “crowds and badminton fans around the world have become accustomed to some trepidation before any match between two Chinese sides.” At the world championships in 2003, Chinese doubles players Yang Wei and Zhang Jiewen were accused of tanking a match so their opponent—another Chinese doubles team—would have a better chance of advancing. In the women’s semifinals at the 2004 Summer Olympics, China’s Zhou Mi was allegedly instructed by her coach “not to work too hard” in her match against teammate Zhang Ning. Zhang went on to win gold. The same thing is said to have happened at the 2000 Sydney Games, when Ye Zhaoying was told to lay down against Gong Zhichao. Gong eventually won gold."

https://slate.com/culture/2012/08/b...ng-to-lose-and-why-is-the-sport-so-dirty.html

This is why I said in another thread, Asian Games's system is the best. It cannot be cheated. you can only meet player from the same country in the final.
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History, how long ago ? Allegations? Allegations are unproved statements or assertions made with little or no proof.

Never mind, let's not rake up the past , about 15 to 20 years ago. How about the recent past ? Any other country involved, are you sure only CHN ? Most importantly, if true, why didn't BWF take any actions against CHN? Or were those tactics regarded as internal matters involving the use of stratagems to maximise their chances of winning gold without directly breaking or violating the rules and regulations as no other interested parties were involved?

I'm pretty sure you are also aware of matches between two players of the same nationalities other than CHN that could be suspicious or dubious, care to mention them ?

But, anyway,I'm not sure if it's worth flogging a dead horse. Serves no purpose, except for some sore losers who still live in the past. Time to move on. Exciting times ahead, esp in MS as LD-LCW era is over, and also WS, WD as well as MD, for all the top players in each of the discipline are beatable, no one is really dominant, only briefly at most.
 
CLELY said:
Hot favourite Kento Momota has very smooth path en route to semifinal, all two straight-sets with longest match only hits 35 minutes only including destroys Srikanth Kidambi, 21-9 / 21-11. His semifinal opponent is going to the script, home last man standing and China number one Shi Yuqi who displays modest perfomance to overcome Ng Ka Long, we'll see how the struggling and below-par Shi could balance full confident Momota tomorrow even the Chinese stated he's not in best physical condition.
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With Axelsen's dethronement already a certainty, Momota and Shi Yuqi will be battling it out for the top spot tomorrow. It should prove an interesting match.
 
mart333 said:
I just realized that from the matches tomorrow. China may only get represented in XD. WD is gone,SYQ is playing against momota, odds are momota will win.
Same with MD and WS.
Everything is possible but it is definitely worrying for local supporters
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CYF can definitely win vs. Akane tomorrow -- CYF defeated Akane in JPN open -- so CHN has 1 WS representative in the final.
 
I've had it with Ricky and Angga.
As Singletary once said "It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win."
 
yuquall said:
AG? No Zhang/Li but Ahmad/Natsir instead. So 3 different nations back in AG.

Just like WD with mostly JPN pairs, wasn't it fun for you? Never seen you complained about that. :p

But it's not their fault if one nation dominated one discipline the SF. It's just the others are simply not good enough.
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Yup. Didn’t really fault it on the Chinese players for playing so well but on the others who are taking so long to challenge them.

Also the fact that ZSW/HYQ are barely even troubled by Wang/Huang doesn’t really help pique interest and excitement during their matches.
 
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konak said:
I agree with you in this case. But China has history....

"Badminton-centric blogs and online message boards are riddled with cheating allegations, some more substantiated than others. Chinese players are often at the center of these claims. As Tarek Hafi put it in Badzine (“The World’s No. 1 Badminton Webzine”), “crowds and badminton fans around the world have become accustomed to some trepidation before any match between two Chinese sides.” At the world championships in 2003, Chinese doubles players Yang Wei and Zhang Jiewen were accused of tanking a match so their opponent—another Chinese doubles team—would have a better chance of advancing. In the women’s semifinals at the 2004 Summer Olympics, China’s Zhou Mi was allegedly instructed by her coach “not to work too hard” in her match against teammate Zhang Ning. Zhang went on to win gold. The same thing is said to have happened at the 2000 Sydney Games, when Ye Zhaoying was told to lay down against Gong Zhichao. Gong eventually won gold."

https://slate.com/culture/2012/08/b...ng-to-lose-and-why-is-the-sport-so-dirty.html

This is why I said in another thread, Asian Games's system is the best. It cannot be cheated. you can only meet player from the same country in the final.
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Xi Jinping came to power in 2012. He has initiated a massive anti-corruption campaign since then, which is still on-going I think. A lot of people (including those involved in sports, especially in soccer) have been arrested. Xi Jinping is an avid soccer fan.

Because of the London Olympic women's doubles scandal in 2012, LYB had been a target of intense criticism and scrutiny, both domestically and internationally. The president of the IOC was there watching the women's doubles match when the incident occurred.

Since 2012, the performances of the Chinese badminton team have declined quite a bit. Allegation of "not doing one's best" against the Chinese team has abated considerably.
 
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Justin L said:
History, how long ago ? Allegations? Allegations are unproved statements or assertions made with little or no proof.

Never mind, let's not rake up the past , about 15 to 20 years ago. How about the recent past ? Any other country involved, are you sure only CHN ? Most importantly, if true, why didn't BWF take any actions against CHN? Or were those tactics regarded as internal matters involving the use of stratagems to maximise their chances of winning gold without directly breaking or violating the rules and regulations as no other interested parties were involved?
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how can you say "no other interested parties were involved?" when Camilla Martin had to fight hard to defeat Dai Yun, while Gong Zichao was only involved in a "drama match" with Ye Zhao Ying. As a neutral, I think it is a clear disadvantage to Camilla Martin.
Not to mention it also deceive the paying audiences. They didn't come to stadium to watch that kind of drama.

Justin L said:
I'm pretty sure you are also aware of matches between two players of the same nationalities other than CHN that could be suspicious or dubious, care to mention them ?
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The most interesting is match between misaki matsutomo / ayaka takahashi VS Naoko Fukuman/Kurumi Yanao.
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/match.aspx?id=79570B8E-D2AA-401B-96B5-D873594B6690&match=735

As a result of that match, Japan can only send one WD pair to the Rio Olympics.
You can follow the discussion here:
https://badmintoncentral.com/forums...ps-finals-1st-may.163732/page-25#post-2454689

Justin L said:
But, anyway,I'm not sure if it's worth flogging a dead horse. Serves no purpose, except for some sore losers who still live in the past. Time to move on. Exciting times ahead, esp in MS as LD-LCW era is over, and also WS, WD as well as MD, for all the top players in each of the discipline are beatable, no one is really dominant, only briefly at most.
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If it happened before, it can happen in the future. That's why I like Asian Games. No Cheating.
 
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Justin L said:
Another pathetic showing for CHN MS and WS, Xia Xuanze is one worrisome man.
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@JustinL this question has been niggling at the back of my mind. Not sure if it is a sensitive or correct question. But thought of getting your opinion.

Team CHN' dominance is slowly declining in recent years. I can't help but wonder if part of the reason is due to the change in coaching/leadership bench?

During LYB's time, IMO, CHN has a such strong dominance in almost every discipline. This is particularly evident in team matches, where their fielded pairs are all top players. Fast forward now, it's a rather scene.





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I think ShiYuqi can upset Momota. Just like HanZhou, i'm sure he doesnt want to lose at China against their respective opponents again and it wont be easy this time.

But yeah, when it comes to this later stages, some of Chinese players are not favourites anymore. It speaks volume of the development of badminton there.
 
yuquall said:
All different nations in both MS (INA, TPE, CHN, JPN) and MD tomorrow (INA, CHN, DEN, TPE).

Two representatives for JPN in both WS (2 JPN, CHN, SPA) and WD (2 JPN, INA, BUL)
Personally I am hoping for Polii/Rahayu vs The Stoevas for WD final :D

As for XD, it's WC all over again with the same pairs but different match up.
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Given the h2h record, I think only Minions and Ginting who have a good chance to go through to the final.

Greys/Apri are going down. They always lose in semifinal. :rolleyes:
 
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