Tension loss experiments / 1-piece vs. 2-piece and others

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by s_mair, Jul 12, 2021.

  1. thyrif

    thyrif Regular Member

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    Awesome job, man. I'm glad we got this whole experimentation thing started around here. I'm wondering what people will think of next! (Shh, it's the colors...)
     
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    You’re right:)

    I am surprised that they weren’t the same colour.

    Mind you, I remember having BG65 in dark colours. Didn’t like them at all and switched back to the lighter colours. The feel just felt different.
     
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    It was the same for me with BG80 - for some reason I always thought the dark blue played best, and I tried ALL the colours.

    And there was a very rare graphite-grey Nanogy 95 that played completely differently to the boggo caramel one...
     
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    Great write up - super like. I've been pondering as I hear 2 sided arguments and this has cleared many questions.

    What is next on the list? Are you going to test more variables like different brand or string type to confirm?
     
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    Already running is the same experiment with no pre-stretch vs. 10% pre-stretch. And the first data points are looking very interesting already. :)
     
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    Normally I would say that with pre-stretch the stringbed would lose tension less quick compared to no pre-stretch. But now I'm guessing it doesn't make any difference, as with the 1P vs 2P. :)

    Nice testing, btw!
     
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    It's really nice to see a little scientific method instead of mumbo jumbo and wishes ! :)

    After the pre-stretch vs no pre-stretch, will you do fast pull vs slow pull ?
     
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    s_mair Regular Member

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    I don't think so. The difference on the WISE there is so small, no way that this has a significant impact on anything.
     
  9. thyrif

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    When we have a few of these nerdy science stuffs, can we compile a linked list in a sticky for future reference?
     
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    That's a great idea! @kwun, what do you think?
     
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    sure. please create it and I will sticky it.
     
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    Noice!

    @thyrif your idea, your sticky thread. So go ahead!
     
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    No need, Si - I did that one aaaaaages ago, when I first got my WISE. No appreciable difference.

    (Well, to playability; it made the stringing take a good five minutes longer. WISE themselves suggest using "fast" for everything other than situations where a difficulty is anticipated, for what it's worth.)
     
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    That’s what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation.
     
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    stickied!
     
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    Being a flying clamps happy user, I really, really would enjoy s_mair to do the test : tension accuracy / fixed clamps VS flying clamps

    Edit : for sure using only flying clamps will reduce the overall tension, due to the double-pull necessity (3 double-pulls at least, 2 for the last mains, one for the first two crosses, knowing that the first double-pull for the beginning of the mains could partially have less loss due to the fact that you can pull the string in the other direction after the first double-pull. And control the "ping" by pinching the string after having performed the first 4 or six central mains.)
    So the real question asked is more : how much does the only flying clamps stringjob process affect the tension result compared to the "usual" fixed clamping one ...
     
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    Seconded - very strongly.

    I use fixed clamps religiously for my entire ten-year career, and I want to know how much time I pissed away for how much more tension :)
     
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    Finger in the air, I'd say you drop a pound or two from what I remember when doing very unscientific tests. Would like to see Simon do a proper job of course.

    Sent from my SM-A315G using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm afraid I will have to pass on that one. First, because I have zero experience with flying clamps (apart from abusing them as starting clamps...). And second, because I think the whole question is easy to answer:
    If you have useable fixed clamps, then use them!
    If you don't... well... guess what.
     

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