Predicting a ban on Lee Chong Wei

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LCW length of ban for doping offence

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  2. 9 months

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  3. 1 year

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  4. 1.5 years

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  6. no ban

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  1. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

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    That's what puzzled me too - "...results obtained between 30 August, 2014, and 2 October, 2014 (the date Lee was notified of his positive test), will stand."

    Perhaps it has to do with dexamethasone not being considered a performance-enhancing drug and he is presumed to have stopped consuming it during that period after the positive test. This ruling is favourable to him.
     
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    apparently the grinder in the shop was contaminated with dexa...

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    the dexa injection on 17 July by the poor doctor was a red herring, which only caused a positive test result on 15 August for the out-of-competition test. It caused LCW a 6-week delay in finding out the real cause of the positive testing on 30 Aug, which was the contaminated grinder.
     
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    para 57 and 58.
     
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    no, the aug 15 test was very nearly negative at 0.2ng/ml, whereas the sample b on aug 30 was 380ng/ml

    so the doctor is cleared of dexa, and the dexa had to come from somewhere else, in which case contaminant in the grinder
     
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    what will Yonex do next?

    how will this decision affect the contract between LD and Yonex?
     
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    its a win win for yonex... of course...

    but the only thing now, is ld is likely getting more money from yonex from his extended contract
     
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    well, true. a very very tiny quantity, given nearly a month had elapsed.
     
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    Right, but it still doesn't answer the question, why dexamethasone and not something else, not to mention whose other capsules could also be contaminated? So the presumably qualified herbalist made a careless mistake even though it is a practice he/she has been doing for seven years for a famous professional athlete and national sport icon.
     
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    Well, mistakes are bound to happen given such a long period of time, ie, two capsules per day for six/seven years.

    my guess is that the grinder was not thoroughly cleaned before grinding LCW's herbal supplements. para 27.
     
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    Definitely a thorough investigation and the medics go from hero to zero to breathing a huge sigh of relief.
     
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    So the 6 of us were correct, almost , 8 months is close to 9 months :D
     
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    Now that we know the facts, maybe we can have another identical poll!! :D
     
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    Hmm...who is that friend in point 24? And traditional supplement or not, better to buy from GMP source rather than people who rarely/don't clean the apparatus. Lesson to be learn here. Genuine or otherwise.
     
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    Yes, fortunately for the medic, and it'd make sense that bam would do it post treatment, is they did the aug 15 test which was negative
     
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    Luckily, it's dexamethasone contamination, what if it's some other somewhat harmful drugs? Imagine, the herbalist was preparing a potent drug for the treatment of a patient suffering from a severe illness and carelessly contaminated the substance to another patient's capsules, esp pregnant women who are susceptible to normally harmless substances.

    I think LCW's saving grace is dexamethsone is not a PED though not approved by WADA during competition and the BWF Hearing Panel is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, assuming the negligence is on the part of third-party and LCW is unaware of the presence of dexamethasone in the cordyseps capsules. Was the contaminated capsules in LCW's possession tested or the herbalist's testimony taken at face value?
     
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    ^ I know what you mean... still slightly suspect... why not other contaminants? Why only dexa?
     
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    Nah, the next poll has to be month by month, long one to list
     
  18. pcll99

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    You made a very good point.

    The other capsules were tested in England and found to have been contaminated with dexa. (para 31).

    The herbal shop proprietor did not even give any evidence. (We don't even know his identity.) LCW's local lawyer in KL just interviewed him and relayed to the Panel as to what he had said (ie, hearsay). [para 27].
     
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    if anything the 8 mths break is beneficial to Datuk Lee instead.
     
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    Oh, Can sorta guess who is that wife of very influential man
     
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