As an observer, I don't think hcyong would concede, otherwise he might have to cut his treasured mane for which you have suggested the last time. I'll take this opportunity to congratulate our very patient friend abedeng for making to the podium for the first time. Hope this will be the start of many more podiums to come for him. I just understand from our Kuantan friend Chu that the SS Final 2008 will be staged in KK, Sabah. Maybe this is a good chance for us to meet again?