I think if you look at this video, it suggests that Axelsen's lowest rib is about 6" above the 1.15m line. I figure the matching rib-owner is somewhere between 5'8" and 5'10".115 cm sounds more like the lowest rib of a 6 ft 2 with shoes on.
I think if you look at this video, it suggests that Axelsen's lowest rib is about 6" above the 1.15m line. I figure the matching rib-owner is somewhere between 5'8" and 5'10".115 cm sounds more like the lowest rib of a 6 ft 2 with shoes on.
I'm not so sure they ever were faulted because I never once saw one even attempted by a pro. But even flicks were faulted, so often based on erroneous judgments that the shafts were pointing upward. I know that many on this forum have, as Cheung pointed out, said it was impossible to drive a serve legally under the old rules, something with which I and others disagree. I also know that drive serves in club play often elicit accusations of faults, in the absence of any reference to rules in many cases. I would say that top players just assumed, correctly, that BWF umpires would fault any attempt at a drive serve. Another reason we never saw them, however, may be that players felt they would always be, as phihag put it, driving "against a well-prepared receiver with good reflexes just [giving] them more power and speed to return, going downwards" and that having that extra shaft angle constraint did not allow them to gain the advantage they now perceive they have.So my question is why drive serves are not faulted now with the new 115cm rule while they were always faulted before.
If you mean misleading about the disadvantage claimed by taller players, I agree. I don't think the waistbands affect our judgment of where their ribs are, though.That vid is very misleading. He pulled his pants very very high to prove his point.
We only have to watch Viktor's latest matches under the new service height rule to see that his serve has barely changed at all. At least I didn't notice that his serve got attacked more than in the past (let's face the truth - his serve has never been the tightest to say the least...). And as far as I have seen, he has stopped attacking the new rule via social media in the past months.If you mean misleading about the disadvantage claimed by taller players, I agree. I don't think the waistbands affect our judgment of where their ribs are, though.
The Badminton World Federation (BWF) will start new rule; the racquet to be at the fixed height of 1.15 meters above the surface of the court at the instant of being hit by the server’s racquet. BWF is intended to start testing of this Experimental Service Law from March 1st, 2018, including at the TOTAL BWF Thomas & Uber Cup Finals 2018 in Bangkok and at the TOTAL BWF World Championships 2018 in Nanjing.
At the recent meeting by the BWF Council in Montego Bay, Jamaica, the finalization of arrangements for this implementation was among decisions made by the members. One of the other decisions at the meeting was by the development department, which is the approval of USD 6 million by the international federation to support capacity building within its continental confederations over the next six years.
The first event of the new BWF tournament series at which this experimental law will be introduced is the All England Open Badminton Championships 2018; all Grade-1 events will undergo this testing except the BWF World Junior Championships. The change of the proposed rule will be brought before the BWF Annual General Meeting in May to give effect to this testing.
BWF President Poul-Erik Høyer said, “The serve is an integral part of badminton. Over the years, we have been looking for ways to improve how the service laws are applied.”
“Therefore, after various investigations and deliberations, the Council has determined to implement this Experimental Service Law in an effort to improve the application of the service laws at BWF tournaments. We hope this will yield positive feedback from our membership,” he added.
On the other hand, BWF will be hosting training workshops for BWF Umpire Assessors in Kuala Lumpur in January followed by holding training courses by the BWF Umpire Assessors at the continental team championships in February; the training includes how to use the measuring devices that will determine service height.
“As our sport grows globally and the demands for resources increase, it is crucial that we equip our confederations to deliver projects effectively to our member associations,” noted Høyer.
“Our objective is to ensure confederations can offer tailor-made services to our membership to propel badminton’s development at a regional and national level.”
BWF, on the account of focusing to develop players outside of the court, explained, “We want to help players develop commercial best practices as well as to understand how they can market themselves better as commercial properties; essentially how they and badminton can benefit from their on-court success. This will involve elements such as social-media management, language training, media training and how to maximise their commercial value to sponsors,” by BWF Secretary General Thomas Lund.
I think the fault called on the drive serves before this new service rule was more on the racket pointing direction (not pointing downward from the service judge's point of view)Aha! Then why is it not getting faulted now?![]()
Yah, my rhetorical question was trying to elicit this answer from Cheung, but he somehow didn't follow.I think the fault called on the drive serves before this new service rule was more on the racket pointing direction (not pointing downward from the service judge's point of view)
And as the racket pointing direction is no longer an issue, there is no more reason to fault the drive serves except if it was hit above 1.15m.
You pretty much can do anything with your racket pointing direction as long as it is under 1.15m when it touches the shuttle.to be very clear once again for me as i am not sure i understand your discussion correctly:
You can now serve with the racket pointing upwards? It would be legal now?
You pretty much can do anything with your racket pointing direction as long as it is under 1.15m when it touches the shuttle.
@phihag
Is that correct?
If there were no service judge around to look through the glass panels with the double lines, how could you tell you are actually serving below 1.15m or not?In spirit yes, but not precisely. The whole shuttle must be below 1.15m when it is hit during the serve.
If there were no service judge around to look through the glass panels with the double lines, how could you tell you are actually serving below 1.15m or not?
Yes. As long as you can keep below the line the racket can be in any direction.this 1.15m service rule,
as long as the shuttle is hit within the stipulated height, and flicks will do? no more 'racket head pointing up' issues?