Malaysian Women Department : Is it time for BAM to reconsider MM2H to import foreign talent?

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  1. Yeung Chao

    Yeung Chao Regular Member

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    What is the situation in Singapore for women's singles and doubles ? Is it a lost cause ?
    Why don't local clubs start an academy to attract, train and groom female badminton players to be ultra competitive? One day a Emma Raducanu might emerge ?

    I too want to see Singapore badminton put itself back to the map because Singapore has a strong history in that sports. Their men's singles is good and capable of winning SEA Games and Commonwealth Games. They need a bit of training and consistency to win at least a medal in World Champ or Asian Games.

    As for Women, i see too many foreign talents incorporated in that team.
     
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    Sg and Malaysia is in the same boat bro. If you can solve malaysia problem. Just bring it to SG. lol. ;) Semua sama. Tak ada kelainan. ;)

    Singapore players a little more spoilt. World class halls and environment. Spoon fed. No hunger at all. Zero. Maybe 1 tournament sonder. lol ;)

    Day break they dun do extra. mana boleh? All just follow what coach say and stop there. Robots. They also using young unknown coaches. No strategy and exposures. ;)
     
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    Singapore did manage to attract Loh Kean Yew from Penang and make him into a successful SEA player. Why can't Singapore do the same for Malaysian women? This is something i cannot understand. Clearly there's a big issue with the Singapore badminton management. They do not know how to employ Scouts. These scouts should be travelling to Malaysia instead of other countries due to distance and watch out for young girls playing badminton at junior. If they have the potential, offer them a chance to get scholarship and develop their skills.

    Singapore has done this so well for "stealling" malaysian brains so why not sports ?
     
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    they tried to reach Goh Jin Wei, but the latter rejected...
     
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    Singapore trying to attract a younger Goh Jin Wei was big news. She had an offer from the Singapore Sports School - possibly even a scholarship - need to check back.

    Here is a link for you
    https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/badminton/2015/06/18/jin-wei-happy-she-turned-down-singapore

    And for relevant discussion, badmintonforum has done it before. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/index.php?threads/goh-jin-wei.154783/
     
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    The epic failure of our womens team just reveals that longstanding structural weaknesses in BAM has not improved...in fact worsened. The only bright spark is... whatever Misbun is doing with the juniors is the right thing..string of good players coming up...but is it enough? Compare ours with the performance of the new batch of China players in the Uber (&Thomas) Cup...we are not even close...
     
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    @Yeung Chao

    To get MMH2 visa, currently one of the conditions is the person has to have a monthly income of RM40,000. That’s just for application…. Difficult to imagine any badminton players with this sort of income….
     
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    Misbun once said that is a world a difference between China and Malaysia. Our juniors can only train 4 hours a day vs 8 hours for China. And this is for both Boys and Girls.

    And Goh L Y revealed on TV commentary that when she and others of her batch were juniors she was sent to train with China's juniors and there she said the difference was like primary school and high school. The CHina juniors were bench pressing adult men's weight while they were doing half of what the China Girls were doing.

    Another issue is injury. In China if a junior is injured due to hard training to the point of career ending injury the junior will be phased out . Only those who can last the regime and there are plenty will go through the senior ranks.

    Malaysia the best of of girls by the time they reach seniors are already riddled with past injuries that affect their physicality and they are still being relied upon because there is absence of a big pool. How often we've seen our girls have very good skills to match but have speed and stamina hampered by their injury.

    Under the circumstances we are doing quite okay.
     
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    If you consider losing to Canada 4-1...doing ok...

     
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    One thing that pretty much stands out in Malaysian badminton followers is a knee jerk critical reaction to poor results without looking further. It's just a vicious cycle that we have seen for decades.

    The highest ranked women's singles and doubles players who were in the Olympics were not in the team. This young Uber cup team was always going to be an experiment. At least the management are trying for something different rather than the same old recipe which produces the same results.
     
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    So were the Chinese team
     
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    By this statement, you are saying Malaysia is of equivalence to China. .... which shows pragmatism and root cause analysis are not factored into your statements. ;)
     
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    The Malaysian team is based in Europe for a long term competing and training. The men's department is not showing much promising results. The same old hit and miss.

    The women's side on the other hand in my opinion should have immediately returned to Malaysia and go through more rigorious training and fitness regime. They all are not good enough and sending them overseas for a long term will not produce any results which is a waste of taxpayers' money.
     
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    Keeping the thread on topic, here’s some of the conditions of mmh2.

    “New applicants to the scheme must show their quadrupled monthly offshore income of at least RM 40,000 (US$9,434) and a RM 1 million (US$236,000) fixed deposit balance rather than the earlier RM 150,000/300,000. They will also need to show RM 1.5 million in liquid assets (increased from RM 300,000 for those of 50 years old and above / RM500,000 for those below 50). “



    https://immidaily.com/asia/blog/202...mm2h-participants-exempt-from-most-new-rules/
     
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  15. Cheung

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    The following thread is a better to post the current results and implications

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/for...ost-2020-quality-of-malaysian-players.187635/

    Mod
     
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    Are you planning to apply? :D Got nice food here and no natural disasters, only man made floods.
     
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    And also apply to play for Malaysia womens team? :D
     
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    Play? Cannot, we know your gender.
     
  19. Cheung

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    Although there are solutions, let's leave it at that then :)
     
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    Your brave efforts in trying to keep the thread on track seems to have resulted in the opposite direction.
    ..into an even weirder turn
     

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