ctjcad said:..hehe, ok,ok..but do all 4 of them *really need* to be in the 1st team??..hehe
Ya I think Taufik and the coach definalty underestimated CH...ctjcad said:thanks again for your input, Simp84..it looks like it's just gonna be the 2 of us keeping this discussion "alive"..
Re the statement i've highlighted in bold, just wondering, what and how were you able to come up with that "conclusion"(eventhough it's your personal believe)??..Also, isn't that statement kind of "conflicting" with what you've mentioned below(as i've highlighted in bold)??..if you have any "proof(s)" to back that up, i'd like to see it..
And when you said "CH obviously knowing he will meet Taufik and PG", esp. Taufik, does it take the 10th or 11th or who knows how many times for him to finally figure out how to beat TH??..Personally, eventhough i haven't watched *all of* Taufik vs. CH's matches, i wouldn't be surprised if CH was able to do the same thing in his past matches against Taufik...yet this time around, for some reason, he was able to be successful at the end..
hmm, you brought up an interesting question with the statement i've highlighted in bold...With that question in mind, in your opinion, why did Taufik(and his coach) came unprepared for "the switch in their game plan"??..Haven't they've seen enough of CH's game to possibly make a counter??..Did they "underestimate" CH or perhaps rest of the players, that all they need to do was stick with their "old plan"??..
... And surely Taufik want to beat LD to cover up his recent withdrawal from HK Open...
Simp84, thanks again for your input..Simp84 said:Ya I think Taufik and the coach definalty underestimated CH...
Obviously Taufik went on the same plan to try to beat CH... by the time I guess it was too late to switch stratergy... though I have no proof whether this is true or not.. but like i say... it was evident Taufik play the same till the end.. attempt to control net and smash...
Lastly regarding Taufik preparedness to beat LD in WC? Come on these 2 are like arch rivals haha.. both stubborn.. and always making firey statement against each other off court.. 'face' seeking couple
His stamina was superb... To be honest I think Taufik definatly had more stamina in the end.. because it was CH doing most of the work in the end.. winning point for himself with the smash and rewarding points for TH with the unforce errorctjcad said:Simp84, thanks again for your input..
So, i guess we can conclude that what Taufik said earlier was just "talks". That by losing to CH, he revealed he probably didn't have keen interest of meeting LD, right?? Cos if he was interested, he would've probably prepared/trained much better, wouldn't you agree??..Or Taufik thought he could just turn the "switch on" right there and then..
Re your statement i've highlighted in bold, maybe we can ask this question :
With Taufik going the distance the previous match(before playing CH), and knowing well that a rubber game usually is a pretty good indicator of how the player's fitness(esp. stamina) level is, what is your opinon on the fitness state of Taufik and to an extent Chen Hong??..which one in your opinion has better fitness(ie.stamina)??..hmm
Simp84 said:His stamina was superb... To be honest I think Taufik definatly had more stamina in the end.. because it was CH doing most of the work in the end.. winning point for himself with the smash and rewarding points for TH with the unforce error
However TH wasn't as sharp compared to OG/WC05/against NgWei R64
Sharp as in.. his placement of smash wasn't nice enough.. he wasn't focused especially at the net... took it for granted thinking CH will lift all his net shots like in their past encounter... missing the chance to kill at net
hahha... I'm very critical.. i know... but I really observe how Taufik plays!!
...Re the statement i've highlighted in bold above, again, how did you come up with that conclusion??..Any proof(s) you can provide other than you noticed "CH was doing most of the work in the end"..And yet even then he still won??...And able to overcome PG in his next match??..Wouldn't you consider CH's fitness(stamina) as 1 of the factor, most likely the most significant. 
ctjcad said:..pardon me, jamesd20 and rest of you for my constant "persistence" on this topic, til this really has run its course..
Like I say Taufik's brain was sleeping throughout 1st and 2nd game... only waking by the 3rd and froze towards the end...ctjcad said:
And again, why wasn't Taufik's "smash placement wasn't nice enough"?? "why wasn't he focused at the net" like before??..Don't tell me he simply felt "no urgency, "underestimated" & "took CH for granted"(like you mentioned) all thruout the 3 sets...And knowing well if he would've lost against CH, he won't advance and meet LD..
BTW, if you don't know(most likely you know already), Taufik has a history of being known as having lackadaisical attitude, both in his play and preparation. The only exception to that was 2 yrs. ago in Olympics and last yr @ WC(and 1 or 2 prior tourneys). And prior, in between & after those 2 events, tell me how many tourneys has he participated in or even won??...
..hmm, seemed like back to your old replies...Simp84 said:Like I say Taufik's brain was sleeping throughout 1st and 2nd game... only waking by the 3rd and froze towards the end...
Theres no prove however it seems like it watching it..
And yes he did took CH for granted at the net
And the game in the end was so tight that it could have went either way...
DinkAlot said:Die thread, die. Chris, you need to get out more, play more Bad and post less.