Explain why TH lost?

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  1. badMania

    badMania Regular Member

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    They ARE in the main team. similar to Taufik, Sony and Simon being all the main team players in Pelatnas.

    As for China's 2nd team, some of the players include Qiu Yanbo, Gong Weijie, Shen Ye, He Hanbin, etc
     
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    Ya I think Taufik and the coach definalty underestimated CH...
    Obviously Taufik went on the same plan to try to beat CH... by the time I guess it was too late to switch stratergy... though I have no proof whether this is true or not.. but like i say... it was evident Taufik play the same till the end.. attempt to control net and smash...

    My only guess behind CH sudden boost in performance was he had to produce some results fast... or else it is the end of his career...
    Kevin Han also mentioned that he is pretty old for a chinese male player..
    Surely that will motivate him to go all out... afterall just like CH himself said.. hes got nothing to lose... So he may as well risk getting injuries than to get KO in early rounds.. CH definatly had pushed his body to the limit, his movements were extremely sluggish and dodgy when moving back to execute the jump smash which were unlike his usual smooth style of play...

    Lastly regarding Taufik preparedness to beat LD in WC? Come on these 2 are like arch rivals haha.. both stubborn.. and always making firey statement against each other off court.. 'face' seeking couple:D... And surely Taufik want to beat LD to cover up his recent withdrawal from HK Open...
     
  3. ctjcad

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    Simp84, thanks again for your input..
    So, i guess we can conclude that what Taufik said earlier was just "talks". That by losing to CH, he revealed he probably didn't have keen interest of meeting LD, right?? Cos if he was interested, he would've probably prepared/trained much better, wouldn't you agree??..Or Taufik thought he could just turn the "switch on" right there and then..;)
    Re your statement i've highlighted in bold, maybe we can ask this question :
    With Taufik going the distance the previous match(before playing CH), and knowing well that a rubber game usually is a pretty good indicator of how the player's fitness(esp. stamina) level is, what is your opinon on the fitness state of Taufik and to an extent Chen Hong??..which one in your opinion has better fitness(ie.stamina)??..hmm:rolleyes: ;) :) :cool:
     
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    His stamina was superb... To be honest I think Taufik definatly had more stamina in the end.. because it was CH doing most of the work in the end.. winning point for himself with the smash and rewarding points for TH with the unforce error
    However TH wasn't as sharp compared to OG/WC05/against NgWei R64
    Sharp as in.. his placement of smash wasn't nice enough.. he wasn't focused especially at the net... took it for granted thinking CH will lift all his net shots like in their past encounter... missing the chance to kill at net
    hahha... I'm very critical.. i know... but I really observe how Taufik plays!! :D
     
  5. ctjcad

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    :eek: :rolleyes: ...Re the statement i've highlighted in bold above, again, how did you come up with that conclusion??..Any proof(s) you can provide other than you noticed "CH was doing most of the work in the end"..And yet even then he still won??...And able to overcome PG in his next match??..Wouldn't you consider CH's fitness(stamina) as 1 of the factor, most likely the most significant.
    And again, why wasn't Taufik's "smash placement wasn't nice enough"?? "why wasn't he focused at the net" like before??..Don't tell me he simply felt "no urgency, "underestimated" & "took CH for granted"(like you mentioned) all thruout the 3 sets...And knowing well if he would've lost against CH, he won't advance and meet LD..;)

    BTW, if you don't know(most likely you know already), Taufik has a history of being known as having lackadaisical attitude, both in his play and preparation. The only exception to that was 2 yrs. ago in Olympics and last yr @ WC(and 1 or 2 prior tourneys). And prior, in between & after those 2 events, tell me how many tourneys has he participated in or even won??...:confused::rolleyes: ;)
     
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    I tihnk this thread has run its course now, you seem to be going over the same ground again and again.
     
  7. ctjcad

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    ..pardon me, jamesd20 and rest of you for my constant "persistence" on this topic, til this really has run its course..:p ..hope there's no harm & no foul as we were simply inputting our opinion as thoughts as suggested in the original post by chibe_K-...;)
     
  8. DinkAlot

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    Die thread, die. Chris, you need to get out more, play more Bad and post less. :p
     
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    Like I say Taufik's brain was sleeping throughout 1st and 2nd game... only waking by the 3rd and froze towards the end...
    Theres no prove however it seems like it watching it..
    And yes he did took CH for granted at the net
    And the game in the end was so tight that it could have went either way...:)
     
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    if only taufik had stamina like this thread:D:D
     
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    ..hmm, seemed like back to your old replies...:p
    anyways, i think i'll just end here, since it seems also like you can't give me any more proof(s) of what i was inquiring...so it's going nowhere either...:p :rolleyes: ;)
    however...
     
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    ..this post basically summed it up..

    ...:):D.....almost on queue and what i was looking for...
    good reply, cooler...;):rolleyes: :p :) :D :cool:
     
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    LMAO! Cooler, you crack me up! :p :D :D
     
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    Brilliant! And I think that's appropriate comment to wind up this thread.:D
     
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    absolutely

    DinkAlot, I could not agree more....looks like Chris replied to every post. If there is a prize for it, Chris will certainly win it. ...( i was itching to say this....)
     
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    I think Chris will make a good lawyer or detective lol:D
     
  17. cooler

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    look like taufik lost (2007 SO) easily to PG.
    don't tell me TH lose to LCW and PG because they are his friends:p
     
  18. Loppy

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    He probably lost because I'm guessing he's using the AT900P which Yonex sponsored him to use.
     
  19. bic33

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    i think he can't afford to let himself play in the finals aganist LD because it would drain too much of his stamina... he needs to win IO... :D :D :)
     
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    gee, TH won't listen to pbsi, won't listen to joko S. but he listen to yonex?
     

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