Digital Camera: Canon's Digital Rebel's New Color

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  1. Cheung

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    Simple things are easiest to handle for me as I'm only a simple guy. COlour can come later :eek:
     
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    You should shoot in colour mode even if you want b/w pictures. The reason for this is because is how camera converts colours to shades of grey. For example blue might appear as dark grey and red as light grey. If you were to shoot in colour and post process you could decide this yourself. FYI did you know that when the BBC first started broadcasting B/W TV in the UK, presenters had to wear yellow make up with blue lipstick for effective skin tones in B/W broadcasts, because that's what the cameras saw.
     
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    Red, thanks for the tip. Really useful if someday need to take photos inside and outside.

    Never thought about it, as usually when taking photos I am either inside or outside. I remember only I did that, was a wedding cerimony, but since the church was not air-conditioned it wasn't a problem shooting inside and outside.
     
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    i am on Cheung's side. color temperature is so difficult to get right...

    50mm
    f/1.8
    1/8s resting against a rail.
     

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    Eos 350d New

    High Image Quality

    • High-resolution 8.0-megapixel CMOS sensor (APS-C size) with 8 million effective pixels.

    • 2nd generation CMOS sensor with an ISO speed range of 100 -1600. Features noise reduction technology which more effectively minimises unwanted noise for visibly clearer images

    • Powered by advanced DIGIC II Imaging Processor.

    • Fitted with a high quality optical low-pass filter used in Canon’s higher range of digital SLRs for minimising false colours.

    • Uses the popular E-TTL II autoflash system that accurately assesses ambient lighting to produce the optimal amount of flash lighting for natural looking pictures every time.


    Superior Performance With DIGIC II Imaging Processor

    • DIGIC II imaging processor produces images with true to life colour reproduction and razor sharp clarity that are more pleasing to the eye.

    • DIGIC II features greatly accelerated processing speed for fast and highly responsive camera reaction.

    • Continuous shooting of about 3 frames per second for up to a maximum burst of 14 JPEG compression type (5 RAW compression type) images.

    • Camera start-up time is a mere 0.2 sec – means you will never miss another great photo opportunity.

    • Fast shutter speed of up to 1/4000 sec. Shutter release lag time is a mere 100 msec.

    • Viewfinder blackout time reduced to 100 msec.


    Lightweight & Compact Yet Robust

    • With a bold compact design, the EOS 350D is a stylish piece of photography equipment modeled around the classic SLR look.

    • Available in two colours: silver and black.

    • Circuitry is more efficient and uses less power, allowing battery pack to be sized smaller without any compromise on performance.

    • The result: one of the lightest and most compact digital SLRs, that you will want to bring everywhere with you.


    Sharply Focused Pictures Every Time

    • 7-point auto-focus (AF) with a wide field of view ensures that your subject is in focus regardless of its placement within the viewfinder.

    • An intelligent predictive focus AF ensures that moving subjects like kids or athletes are constantly in sharp focus.

    • AI servo AF tracks a moving subject, keeping it constantly in focus – most suitable for sports photography.

    • Switch to manual focus with the touch of a button.


    Different Shooting Modes For Greater Versatility

    • 5 modes in the Creative Zone – Program AE, Shutter-speed priority AE, Aperture-priority AE, Manual and Depth-of-field AE – allow serious photographers to select their preferred camera settings for different effects.

    • 7 modes in the Preset Zone – Auto, Portrait, Landscape, Close-up, Sports, Night Portrait and Flash Off – save time by automatically selecting the best camera settings for the selected type of image composition.

    • ISO range is selectable from 100-1600 for shooting under various ambient lighting conditions.

    • Simultaneous RAW compression type and JPEG compression type image processing.


    Advanced Functions For Serious Photographers

    • The highly intuitive Quick Menu Function allows quick access to frequently used settings like AF Mode, Metering Mode, White Balance and ISO Speed.

    • Comparable to higher range Canon digital cameras, the AF Mode allows you to select from One-shot AF, AI Focus, or AI Servo to keep fast moving subjects in focus.

    • Select metering mode from Evaluative metering, Partial metering, and Centre-weighted average metering – according to photo-taking conditions.

    • Similar to higher range models, the flash exposure in the EOS 350D can be fully controlled to suit lighting or reflectivity of subject.

    • 9 white balance modes reproduce the most natural colours and skin tones under different types of ambient lighting (Auto, Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten, White fluorescent, Flash, Colour Temperature and custom).

    • Serious photographers will appreciate WB correction function – formerly only found in higher range cameras – it allows white balance to be finely adjusted for blue, amber, magenta or green hues.


    Pick and choose the perfect shot

    • Auto Exposure Bracketing automatically takes 3 shots with each press of the shutter release button with different exposure settings in ±2 EV in 1/3-step increments.

    • Auto White Balance Bracketing automatically takes 3 shots of the same scene with different lighting settings ranging from warm, normal and cool.

    • Choose full colour or shoot in black & white or sepia tones. Digital processing provides the same colour effects as camera filters by lowering the tones for specific colours.

    • Jump function saves the hassle of having search through the bulk of images one by one. The selection available are:
    - Jump 10 frames: jumps 10 images in one step
    - Jump 100 frames: jumps 100 images in one step
    - Date jump: jumps to the first image from next day shooting.



    Lenses & Other Accessories

    • Select from over 70 Canon EF and EF-S lenses, from ultra-wide to telephoto zoom, including the new EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 II lens.

    • Other EOS accessories include a dedicated battery grip (BG-E3) that provides back up power in the form of 6 AA batteries or 2 NB-2LH lithium ion batteries.


    Shoot it. Print it Direct.

    • Prints photos directly to Canon’s direct photo printers and any PictBridge-compatible printer via Print/Share button without using a computer.

    • Exif 2.2 saves camera settings together with JPEG compression type image for true fidelity to the original image when printing.


    Compatibility

    • Compatible with EOS system accessories

    • Compatible with MS Windows and Mac operating systems· USB 2.0 Hi-Speed connection and video out interface.


    Bundled Software

    • EOS Digital Solution Disk (Version 10.0) – contains useful software like Digital Photo Professional (Version 1.6) ZoomBrowser EX, ImageBrowser, PhotoStitch, and so on.

    • ArcSoft PhotoStudio – an easy to use, yet powerful retouching software.

    • Canon Photo Record - Easy way to print photos, even multiples on a single sheet of photo paper or create index prints
     

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    EOS 350D Specs NEW

    Image Sensor
    Type CMOS sensor
    Effective Pixels Approx. 8.0 megapixels
    Size (mm) 22.2 x 14.8
    Focal Length Conversion Factor 1.6
    Color filter Type Primary color filter
    Recording System
    Recording Media Compact Flash
    Slot/Type CF Type I/II
    Recording Quality (JPEG compression) (1) Large/Fine
    (2) Large/Normal
    (3) Middle/Fine
    (4) Middle/Normal
    (5) Small/Fine
    (6) Small/Normal
    (7) RAW compression + L/F (8).RAW compression
    (RAW compression) Separate RAW compression and JPEG compression (L/F) images
    (JPEG compression + RAW compression)(Simultaneous Recording) (1) Large: 8.00
    (2) Middle: 4.15
    (3) Small: 2.00

    Recording Pixels (Approx. megapixels) sRGB: Yes
    File size Adobe RGB: Yes (Exif 2.21)Color: Contrast, sharpness, color saturation, color tone
    Color Space Monochrome: Contrast, sharpness, filter efftect, toning
    Compatible Card Capacity 2 GB and higher
    Imaging Processor
    Imaging Processor DIGIC II
    White Balance
    System Image Sensor
    Settings Auto, daylight, shade, cloudy, twilight, sunset, tungsten light, white fluorescent light, flash, custom, color temperature
    WB Correction (Levels) Blue/Amber bias: +/-9 levels
    Magenta/Green bias: +/-9 levels
    Auto white balance with the image sensor
    WB Bracketing Amount: +/-3 levels in 1-level increments
    Direction: Blue/Amber bias & Magenta/Green bias
    Shutter release: 3 images with one shot

    Viewfinder
    Coverage Approx. 95%
    Magnification 0.8x
    Eyepoint 21 mm
    Dioptric adjustment -3.0 - +1.0 dpt
    Focusing Screen Precision Matte
    Depth-of-field Preview Yes

    Autofocus


    AF Points 7

    Focusing Modes One-Shot AF, AI Servo AF, AI Focus AF

    AF Point Selection Cross keys/Main dial
    Brightness EV 0.5 -18
    AF Mode Selectable Yes
    50 kph predictive AF (EF300mm f/2.8L IS IS, approx. m) 10
    AF-assist beam type Stroboscopic flash
    Exposure Control
    Sensor Zones 35

    Metering Range EV 1-20 Evaluative, partial at center, center weighted averaged

    Metering Modes Yes

    Metering Modes Selectable Full Auto, Portrait, Landscape, Close-up, Sports, Night Portrait, No Flash, Program AE, Shutter speed priority AE, Aperture-priority AE, Manual, Depth of field AE

    Shooting Modes Equivalent to ISO 100-1600

    ISO speed Basic Zone: Auto
    Creative Zone: 100, 200, 400, 800, 600

    Exposure compensation (increments and range) +/-2 in 1/3- or ½-stop inc.
    AEB (increments and range) +/-2 in 1/3- or ½-stop inc.
    AE Lock Yes
    Flash Metering Mode Evaluative metering: E-TTL II
    Averaged metering: Yes (C.Fn-8-1)

    Shutter

    Shutter Speeds 1/4000 - 30 sec, bulb, X-sync at 1/200 sec.


    Drive

    Drive Modes Single, continuous, Self-timer
    Continuous Shooting Speed (fps) One Shot: 3 / AI Servo: 3
    Max. Burst JPEG compression: 14 (Fine/Fine) / RAW compression: 5
    Built-in Flash

    Guide No. 13
    Coverage (Angle of view, mm) 17
    Flash Exposure Compensation +/-2 stops in 1/3- or ½ stops increment.

    Fe Lock Yes
    LCD Monitor

    Screen Size 1.8 inches
    Pixels displayed Approx.115, 000

    Playback


    Display Modes Single image (basic info/info/no info)/Index

    Histogram/Highlight alert Yes

    Zoom-in magnification Approx. 1.5x – 10x

    Jump display 10 images/100 images/Date

    Image Rotation Yes (90°, 270°)

    Image Protection Yes
    Menu Interface Language

    Menu Interface Language 15
    Custom Functions (Qty/settings)

    Custom Functions (Qty/settings) 9/24

    Recording Format

    DCF (Ver) 2.0
    Exif (Ver) 2.21
    Direct Printing /Printing
    PictBridge (PTP) compatibility Yes
    CP/BJ Direct compatibility Yes
    Direct Print Yes

    DPOF (Ver) 1.1
    External Interface

    USB (Ver) 2.0 Hi-speed

    Video OUT (NTSC/PAL) Yes
    Remote Control Terminal Yes (RS-60E3)
    Wireless Remote Control Yes (RC-1, RC-5)

    Startup Time
    Startup Time 0.2 sec
    Power Source

    Possible Shots (20°, 50%) 400 (NB-2LH)

    Battery NB-2LH

    AC Power Yes

    Date/Time Backup Battery CR2016

    Battery Grip BG-E3 (size-AA batteries compatible)

    Exterior


    Material Plastic

    Exterior Color Silver/Black

    LCD Panel Illumination Yes

    EF-S Lens Compatibility Yes

    Chassis Material


    Material Stainless Steel + Plastic

    Dimensions and Weight


    Dimensions (W X H X D) 126.5 x 94.2 x 64 mm

    Weight 485g (body only)
     
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    I think this new model is called Canon Digital Rebel XT in the States.
     
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    shame on u kwun, u clean out the feathers from this helpless bird. Not 1 left :eek: It look well fed though.
     
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  9. Cheung

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    Yup. That's right
     
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    i found myself that trick at around 1995 when i was working for a newspaper. at that time i gotta follow chris patten (the last governor of hk) lots of time form district to district!
    when we were travelling inside a air conditioned coach. everybody put their gears into their camera bag to avoid a foggy lenes. infact i was just too lazy to attach and detach everything over and over again. then i just holded it all the way in my hand!
    after i jumped out form the coach. the first thing i gotta check was the lenses. i found that it's clear as usual. after that i told all other guys about that trick! ;)
    that's the story! :) :) :)
     
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    kwun,

    i m sorry, but i gotta say with a nikon. it is! ;) ;) ;) color temperature is a difficult task for nikon dslr users!
    it's not accurate even if u've checked the white balance with a white card!
    for canon users. they will have a pretty accurate white even if they are shooting with auto mode! :D :D

    red
     
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    kwun,

    in fact it's a good starting point for understanding color.
    cyan, magenta, yellow and red, green, blue.
    take a look at this page.
    http://www.rgbworld.com/color.html

    once u have a basic idea of those six color. u can easily tune your pictures well with photoshop.

    red
     
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    I was down at my courts today. Of course I just had to bring the camera as well.

    The 50mm f1.8 is much faster at autofocus than the kit lens. I was surprised to find such a difference. I was also surprised to find badminton is so difficult! Thank goodness for digital - it definately is cheaper than film for this application.

    One piece of advice is, don't take photos after you finished your session. I had a cool shower, stepped back in the gym and the perspiration just kept flowing. It's difficult to concentrate when you are wet! I think I was still in a state of high energy after a very tough singles (we have no airconditioning) and hence unable to concentrate properly especially with the sweating problem.

    Try to post up a "suitable" picture later. :eek:
     
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    with a self portriat as well cheung! :D
     
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    I just fiddled around with RAW yesterday using the Canon software (I don't have photoshop). Heck, I was REALLY impressed as a first time experience of manipulating the image. Thanks about the tip on post processing. I didn;t really understand it until playing around with the software.
     
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    but remember. raw will eat a lot of space of your cf card. make sure u have enough cards for the whole game. :p
     
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    Oh, and in addition, what your monitor displays, and what you get when you print out on paper, IS DIFFERENT. The photos on paper are richer and there are shades of colors that doesn't come out on the computer screen. If you really like a photo (after post-processing), print it out. You'll be amazed.

    One of the nice things of post-processing:
    • Auto-Levels in Photoshop. Try a before and after paper print.
    • Crop feature

    I remember I took a photo in the snow, my left-side glasses was fogged up and my right-side was fine. I zoomed into the eye area, clipped my right eye side, and pasted it over the left one. In normal zoom, it was unnoticable! :D

    -dave
     
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    Perhaps you're right...only enough space for 300 shots
     
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    damn, u've got a 2gb card! :eek:. i only have a 512 and a 256. :crying: :crying: :crying:
     
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    hehe...when buy, buy in style! When I was walking around in Mongkok Computer Centre, I saw this interesting product

    http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/photo_steno_pro2.asp

    and it was cheaper than Sandisk extreme III. Seriously, it was an impulse buy.

    My computer is USB 1.1 so it takes a looooong time to download. I just go away and do something else. Scared to upgrade to USB2 on my computer...Sod's/Murphy's law ;) (happened to me with a DVD burner :crying: )

    hmm, there is a good one about disk space as well. Something like, "when you buy memory/disk space, it is never enough.".....that can only happen if I buy a new internal hard disk and Sod's law doesn't turn out to be true when I connect it up.
     

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