Danisa DENMARK Open 2018 : Round of 32-Final (16-21 October)

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  1. Baddyforall

    Baddyforall Regular Member

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    Check your stats first. SK reached 5 SS finals and won 4 SS titles.

    Come out of Momota's love and see the world before writing and criticisizing any other player. Two back to back titles (4 titles)

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  2. Nguyễn Việt Chiến

    Nguyễn Việt Chiến Regular Member

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    I think what he mean is among 4 titles that Srikanth get he has 3 final that agains not seeded players
     
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    and that's not even a criticism on the player, I think
     
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    Which means that when Srikanth played those finals, he should have definitely been the favourite as they were 'on paper' easier finals.
     
  5. CLELY

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    Thanks for your appreciation, I will focus to BWF top flight tourneys ;)

    For DEN Open conclusion, it's predictable result that all number ones prevailed, only singles category were completed in rubber games to portray how competitive and well balanced badminton. Both Momota and Tai TY are better in physical condition to power past Chou Tien Chen, Saina Nehwal respectively in deciding game. The beaten finalists gave everything they had to steal second set then ran out of steam to did it same feat in final game.

    No twist and turn in doubles discipline, the favourites dominated final contest, The Minions, FukuHiro and YaSi combination are too strong to beat, two straight games victory is the evidence.

    French Open will kick off tomorrow, another exciting week to come for badminton enthusiasts :)
     
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    Seems like the same applies to you
     
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    I haven't "criticized" the player one bit, he doesn't make the draw and you can always just beat the opposition in front of your. Nevertheless, it is of course easier to have unseeded players than seeded players on your way to the final. What I tried, was to explain that in WS the top players are dominant whereas in MS - especially last year - there was nobody but Axelsen and SK to be consistent, therefore many of the tournaments were less competitive.
    Srikanth's final opponents in the tournaments I mentioned were ranked 49 (Sakai in Indonesia), 22 (LHI in Denmark) and 40 (Nishimoto in France) respectively. They are not his level and he dispatched each of them with ease. His Australia title was a much greater achievement, as he beat three seeded players, including CL in the final. Once again, it's not his fault that the draws were that easy, but the point is that in WS no one ranked 49 would even come close to a SSP final.

    Just look at QF stage of the first two tournaments this year:

    Malaysia MS: Axelsen (1) - Christie, Darren Liew - Avihingsanon, Vittinghus - Ginting, Ng KL (7) - Nishimoto
    Malaysia WS: TTY(1) - CYF (8), CM (4) - Lee YY, RI (5) - GJW, HBJ - AY (2)

    Indonesia MS: Sakai - Gemke, SWH (4) - SD Kuncoro, ASG - CL (3), CTC (6) - Vittinghus
    Indonesia WS: TTY (1) - SJH (5), CM (3) - HBJ (8), NO (6) - RI (4), SN - PVS (2)
     
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    So, You meant Kasumaza Sakai, Lee Hyun ILL and Nishimoto are easy players ? !. If so, then you have to change your decision.

    Indonesia Open- He defeated 2 seeded players (Son Won Ho - world no.1 at that time and Jan O Jorgensen ) . In the finals he defeated Kazumasa sakai , who defeated H.S.Prannoy in the semis. But you have to see that Prannoy did defeat LCW and Chen Long in that tournament. SO, K.Sakai defeating Prannoy means, he is not an easy player. If a player reaches the finals of the tournament , it means he played really well to reach the finals.
    And also, One player cannot meet 'all the seeded players' of the tournament to prove his point.
    First change your analysis. If he was in such a form, why do you think he won't reach finals if he had met any of the seeded players?

    I don't want to give you all the tournaments he won and prove it. He did beat Shi yuqi twice, Son won ho twice and Jan o jorgensen twice and victor once and chen long once and even Anthony ginting in straight games . All other seeded players were got defeated in first round or second rounds of the tournaments. This is not his fault. You keep on bringing his name and saying that he got those titles easily is so MEAN .
     
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    I found out what TTY did to improve her over-all physical strength. She did a drastic change in her way of eating.
     
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    You just don't get it do you?
     
  11. minions

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    Let's move on to French Open and stop this debating. I fear that the debating just now will end up like few days ago.
     
  12. ebcd

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    What happened few days ago?
     
  13. g3rryok

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    i found it funny too... hahaha
     
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    did you reply to the wrong person? :confused::confused:
    I thought my reply was indicating that I agree with you hahahhaaa
     
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    Didn't you know about the debate between @Cunning Linguist and @Justin L about stamina issue? The debate content is in this post. Just check the early page.
     
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    did people actually believe QF dominated by same seeded players more competitive than QF where unseeded players constantly challenge and beat seeded players ? lol :rolleyes:
     
  17. ebcd

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    Oh, I did read that
    That kind of discussion is not new to this forum so don't worry
     
  18. Cunning Linguist

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    I know, I really don't know why I quoted your post. :D
     
  19. Hassefar60

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    Steen was commenting on Danish TV during the week. I dont remember hearing him in the weekend though.
     
  20. yuquall

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    Depends on who the seeded and the unseeded players are.

    Unseeded player like Ginting would make QF or any later stages more competitive and interesting.
     

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