APACS Virtuoso Performance

[BadAtGoodminton]

Which ASTROX77 do you have, 3U or 4U ? And how old is your AVP, I noticed that the old ones are stiffer. I realy like them and don't like new ones.

My Astrox 77 is 3U. As for the AVP, I am not sure how old it actually is but when I got it from the store only a week or so before I decided to splurge on the Astrox, and that was *checks the nostalgic receipt* I got it on the 4th of april, 2018. So I had the AVP probably from around 28 of March or so - a week behind .

Oh and btw: I do think that my AVP is rather stiff. But that I have gotten more used to it with time.

 

[boomrang]

AV pro 2, better spec with 50T shaft

Thanks. Just out of curiosity, is 50T better than 30T or 40T because its more stiffer ?

 

[Carbonex_7]

Thanks. Just out of curiosity, is 50T better than 30T or 40T because its more stiffer ?

50T can sustain more bending force than 40T, not so much to do with stiffness.

 

[boomrang]

Anyone tried ferocious 22 ? is that a faster racket than avp ?

 

[Eastfield]

50T can sustain more bending force than 40T, not so much to do with stiffness.

The 30t/40t/50t refers to the tensile strength of the fibres used. It has nothing to do directly with bending forces. Composites like CF and GF doesn't work with bending forces per say, as it's all in compression and tension of the individual fibres interlocked in the resin.

If you had three identical rackets, one made with 30t, one with 40t and one with 50t, given everything else being equal (resin, layup, dimensions etc etc) the 30t would be the most flexible but also the one with the highest toughness. The 50t would be the stiffest, however with the lowest toughness. This based on the general assumption that higher tensile fibres are more brittle.

 

[Carbonex_7]

The 30t/40t/50t refers to the tensile strength of the fibres used. It has nothing to do directly with bending forces. Composites like CF and GF doesn't work with bending forces per say, as it's all in compression and tension of the individual fibres interlocked in the resin.

If you had three identical rackets, one made with 30t, one with 40t and one with 50t, given everything else being equal (resin, layup, dimensions etc etc) the 30t would be the most flexible but also the one with the highest toughness. The 50t would be the stiffest, however with the lowest toughness. This based on the general assumption that higher tensile fibres are more brittle.

Good explanation. Thanks for clearing my misconception of stronger shaft can sustain greater force.

 

[badmintony]

But does tensile strength affect the playability of a racket apart from durability perhaps?

 

[Eastfield]

Well, with the general assumption that a fibre with higher UTS is more brittle, we can deduct that the higher tensile fibre will have a lower elasticity.

 

[Decimator]

Hlw guys I am looking for a powerful apacs racquet, I already own the virtuso performance but I think it lacks power. So which apacs racquet should I go for?

 

[Decimator]

Will anyone please compare lethal 70 with AVP?

 

[PugGuy]

I've got a Tantrum 200ii and I must say it's a very powerful racket, more than AVP. Never tried Lethal 70 though.

 

[Carbonex_7]

Technically Lethal 70 is more powerful than AVP due to L70 box frame design.

 

[Decimator]

Is it better than T200ii? In terms of power.

 

[Carbonex_7]

Is it better than T200ii? In terms of power.

L70. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/index.php?threads/apacs-lethal-70-vs-apacs-tantrum300.81667/

 

[Decimator]

Did you use both of them? If so can you tell me with certainty that which one is more head heavy, Stable and stiff? (Between tantrum 200 and lethal 70)

 

[Carbonex_7]

Did you use both of them? If so can you tell me with certainty that which one is more head heavy, Stable and stiff? (Between tantrum 200 and lethal 70)

I have tried T200II, Lethal 100, and Lethal 110, never use lethal 70 as it is an old model, base on the frame and structure design, Lethal series are more powerful rackets.

 

[Tony]

Did you use both of them? If so can you tell me with certainty that which one is more head heavy, Stable and stiff? (Between tantrum 200 and lethal 70)

AVP is so much fast and powerful for me. I do own AVP, Tantrum 200II and lethal 60 II (Some say it is the successor of lethal 70) . My recomendation for you is Lethal 60 II. Lethal 60 II have a medium and HH balance (not too much). But i do found that lethal 60 II lack of feel when smash. AVP and Tantrum need an extra skill to swing and unleash the beast. As you may know AVP and BS12 is almost similiar since i own BS.12 too.

But if you wan't more head heavy since you need power. I think you will not find in any of apacs racket. Almost all the apacs racket that i knew comes around 295 bp. The most head heavy apacs racket is Slayer 88 II (300 bp).But the construction feels like a brick, Not my cup of tea.

 

[badmintony]

I thought I'd post it here as well a picture of a new color(?) for AVP.
Anyone encountered this racket yet?

 

[flyingcords]

I thought I'd post it here as well a picture of a new color(?) for AVP.
Anyone encountered this racket yet?View attachment 191114

It looks like the virtuoso pro II black or the Virtuoso International. "The Virtuoso International is a slight variation of the very popular Apacs Virtuoso Performance racket. The Virtuoso International is easier to handle, with a slightly lighter weight, lower head balance and higher flexibility. "

 

[badmintony]

When I checked the other picts, it's clearly written on the shaft Virtuoso Performance

Everything seems to check out as an AVP.



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