Can you please talk normal to me. Stiffness is one of the most important attributes and if you like the paint jobs, the quality, the players that use the rackets it become meaningless, if you still don't find anything that fit. No offense. I would not hijack the Yonex fan thread and would criticize that the don't make very aerodynamic frames or more forgiving top-end rackets. I simply question how can you like rackets from a brand if they don't offer 0/3 of an important spec that what you looking for. What's your point to like them? And please stop using strong language and swear words and dictate brands what should be their target group and what rackets they should made for you. @kwun and @Cheung please ban me, I'm a toxic member.
I think you both need to take a deeeeep breath and calm down. Neither was @Thang Nghiem overly bashing Li-Ning (he also wasn't looking for racket recommendations in the first place... ), nor was it appropriate for him to curse and shoot with insults. It's all about boring bloody badminton rackets, chill out ffs!
First pics of AXF90 Max Super thin shaft and fully recessed frame means this one will compete against 100zz, I am interested if they can do this without extending handle into shaft by 15mm.
if this one turns out to have a compact frame, then count me in. Amazing paint job once again. But I expect we will have 2024 before this one lands in good ol' Europe.
I am being optimistic and hope it would be available by June, realistic chance is around October'22. We would probably see Ginting, Reigning MS WC using this in All England.
AXForce 80 in 3U is available in Europe now https://li-ningfamily.com/products/1000-li-ning/2786-badminton-racket---axforce-80-3u/
250+ bucks for a racket without even making the effort of providing any specs. They are out of their minds, seriously.
Think they will provide specs very soon, it came up on the site today. And the price is... yeah, kinda ridiculous. But half the price if you've the Li-Ning Family Club
You mean the same way how they after months still have not shown any specs for the Tectonic 9? The Family Club membership is no longer available if I'm not mistaken. That offer seems to have been to good.
Think their focus is on the danish version of the site. they have updated the specifications on the AXForce 80 and the Tectonics there. Oh yeah, I don't know when they removed the Family Club deal, but that was great.
Sure, let's agree to be civil here. I'm normally pretty chill but I don't take it nicely when people perceivably attacked me out of nowhere ("moan", "hijack", "stick to it", blanket accusing other BC members of making poor choices...). I simply explained to you what I wished a perfect racket would be for me, made by Li-Ning, in good faith. Assuming you genuinely want to participate in a decent conversation, let's start from here. You're right, stiffness is one of the most important attributes but it's not a deal breaker to me. Why? I am a racket junkie, like many of us here. I rotate between 8-10 totally different rackets, and just happen to play well with all of them. Even when a Li-Ning racket isn't the fittest racket during my max performance, I still enjoy playing with it when I am really tired. I still enjoy handling a quality racket even when sitting at home, not playing. LN rackets are simply some of the highest quality rackets on the market, so even if they aren't my main go-to rackets, I still enjoy them, as a collector. As @s_mair said, I wasn't even bashing LN. Why would I agree to be their dealer for my club, when I hate them so much? As for "dictating brands what should be their target group", I did no such thing, so please stop being passive aggressive and putting words in my mouth (or anyone else for that matter). I simply voiced my wishes of something particular that I would want from brands (which I'm sure most of us here also want something specific in a particular brand). If brands happen to see enough similar opinions, they may or may not take it into considerations in future developments. That's up to them, not you. And not sure if you realize this, but your wordings are quite brash and borderline condescending, even if they aren't your intention. I say this not as an attack toward you, but as a constructive criticism. @s_mair : You're right, I could be more chill about the whole thing. Let's get back to the rackets.
Shall we take a guess about the price tag for the AXF90 Max? I'm afraid that the "max" alone will costs us another 50 bucks.
Li Ning reduced racket prices quite a lot in China, Axforce 80 is available for for just 850RMB (= 8500 INR) but they are selling for INR14000 here.
Will both colours play the same? Seems to be the same concept Yonex is rolling out with their "pro" versions
They are both called the same and are marketed with the same 50T carbon, so I'd expect it to simply be two different color schemes. Or maybe one 3U, one 4U? The more I look at the pictures, the more I see a slightly compact'ish frame around the bottom half. Is that just me?