haha so quiet coz most mas supporters x watching d match 2day which basically just involve china, korea n denmark.hehe wow Gao ling is a superwomen.win xd n wd again like in MO
Can't wait till Thursday for the new ranking list that incorporates KO results. Therefore, I did a rough calculation to come out with a rough ranking list for MS & MD, * MS * 1(-) LD 2(-) BCL 3(-) CH 4(+1) LCW (CH & LCW's ranking points are very close, so I won't be surprised if LCW is No.3 instead.) 5(-1) PG 6(-) CJ 7(+1) CY 8(-1) KJ 9(-) Hafiz 10(-) Boonsak 11(-) LHI 12(+1) Palyama 13(-1) Taufik 14(-) Smith 15(+3) Roslin 16(+3) Tsuen Seng 17(-2) Sairul 18(-1) Eric Pang 19(+1) Wacha 20(-4) Persson Other prominent players: 21(-) Sung Hwan 22(+2) Ng Wei 30(-4) Susilo 33(+3) Kuncoro 34(+1) KBH * MD * 1(-) Cai/Fu 2(-) Eriksen/Hansen 3(-) Kido/Setiawan 4(+1) JJS/LYD 5(+2) CTF/LLW 6(-2) Clark/Blair 7(+1) Candra/Tony 8(-2) Alven/Hadiyanto 9(-) Sukmawan/Hian 10(-) Hoon/Tan 11(-) Gan/Abdul Latif 12(-) Mohd Tazari/Lin Other prominent pairs, 20(-1) LP/JR 21(+9) LJJ/HJM 23(+1) Sudket/Patapol 27(+2) TBS/OSH 31(-) Guo/Xie 32(-) CCM/KKK 36(+14) KKK/TBH
Now that the finals are over, congrats to all winners(Gao Ling is amazing!!!). We can make an educated guess that the outcome of the MS final was not affected by LYB at all. If LYB was involved, he would probably prefer CJ to win, so he can get into the top 4 spot in world ranking to create a situation where Chinese players will get the best seedings, and will only meet each other until semi-finals.. except Chen Yu being the one left behind. Now, LD won the match and Chen Jin's ranking point is not enough to get in front of LCW and PG, and he along with Chen Yu may possibly have to meet one of LD, BCL, or CH in matches before the semi-finals.
I think the ranking ater korea open should be: Lin Dan, Chen Jin, Chen Hong, Peter Gade, Bao Chunlai. If China wanted the top 4 position, Lin Dan would have lost to Bao CHunlai.
I didn't work out the rough ranking by "I think", but based on the ranking points. Before KO, the gap between the ranking points of the 5th ranked LCW and the 6th ranked CJ was about 4,500. At KO, LCW earns 5,040 for his quarterfinal appearance while CJ earns the runner-up points of 7,800 (i.e., only 2,840 points' difference between the runner-up and and the quarterfinalist). Therefore, unless the "depreciation" of both players' points earned months ago influences a lot, CJ couldn't overtake LCW, not to mention the 2nd ranked BCL with a large gap of 8,000 points before KO.
So your calculation (after multiple editions) concludes that CJ's ranking still behind BCL and LCW. According to your final edition of calculation, your order is: BCL > LCW > CJ (your calculation) Actually, your ranking for after KO is the same as the current ranking, so you don't think the Korea open will change the order of those 3 players. Anyhow, I am still sticking to my original thinking (which I missed LCW), which is just opposite: CJ > LCW > BCL (my thinking) which means the KO turn their ranking just up side down. Let's see who's right after the final ranking release. okay?
Congrats to the CHN squad...and yep, it's very difficult... ..i'll say almost impossible to win all 5 events in any tourney(s) ..Hmm, i wonder, when was the last time that particular feat(1 country sweeping all 5 events in a tourney) had been achieved??..Or has it been done before??..Anyone in BC knows??..
Here's how I did my rough calculation for the three players' ranking points: Before KO: BCL - 59860 LCW - 56096 CJ - 51573 After KO: BCL: 59860 + 6420 (points earned by a SS semifinal appearance) - "depreciation" of earlier rankings earned = around 65000 LCW: 56096 + 5040 (SS quarterfinalist) - "depreciation" = around 61000 CJ: 51573 + 7800 (SS runner-up) - "depreciation" = around 59000 Therefore, unless the "depreciation" component (my assumption is that the "depreciation" for each player is less than 1000 points) makes a big difference, CJ could only come close to LCW and is no way he could overtake BCL. There's a big gap in pre-KO ranking points between BCL and CJ to start with.
I think in 1989, the chinese won all 5 world championships. beating the indonesian record of winning 4 out of the 5 world championships sometime before that
Okay, now I do a more precise calculation of BCL, LCW and CJ's WR points by following the booklet, http://badmintoninternational.net/newseditor/data/new_ranking_booklet.pdf The ranking points awarded in events have already been revised but I assume that the calculation principle remains the same. *** BCL *** Top-10 in the past 52 weeks: Korea SS '07 (SF) 6420 Malaysia SS '07 (RU) 7800 China Open '06 (RU) 7650 WC '06 (RU) 8500 KO '06 (winner) 9000 Thailand Open '06 (QF) 3300 Macau Open '06 (QF) 3850 S'pore Open '06 (SF) 5600 Ina Open '06 (RU) 7650 Thomas Cup '06 5709 Total: 65479 *** LCW *** Korea SS '07 (QF) 5040 M'sia SS '07 (QF) 5040 JO '06 (SF) 5600 WC '06 (QF) 5500 HKO '06 (RU) 7650 Macau O '06 (RU) 5950 Taipei O '06 (RU) 6800 Ina Open' 06 (1\16) 3600 TC '06 6705 ABC '06 (winner) 7000 Total: 58885 *** CJ *** Korea SS '07 (RU) 7800 M'sia SS '07 (QF) 5040 CO '06 (SF) 6300 WC '06 (QF) 5500 HK O '06 (SF) 6300 Thailand O '06 (RU) 5100 Taipei O' 06 (SF) 5600 TC '06 4882 China Masters (winner) 9000 Total: 55522 So, it's still BCL > LCW > CJ. Amazingly, the WR point gap between BCL and CJ will actually widen due to the "Top-10 in the last 52 weeks" rule. Prior to Korea SS'07, the lowest points earned by BCL among the Top-10 point-earning events that he has participated was JO'06 (800 points only due to his 2nd-round defeat). With his SF appearance in Korea SS which has earned himself 6420 points, the JO'06 points are striken out from the Top-10. That means he gains 6420 - 800 = 5620 points. On the other hand, with his RU appearance in Korea SS which has earned himself 7800 points, the previously lowest point-earning event (Macau Open - 3850) is striken out from CJ's top-10. That means he gains 7800 - 3850 = 3950 points. Given that BCL is ALREADY 8287 points ahead of CJ (59860 vs. 51573) prior to the Korea SS, the new WR point gap between the two players is 8287+5620-3950 = 9957. It seems that CJ needs to work harder to catch up with BCL, e.g., CJ advances to at least QF in the next two SS events while BCL skips both events.
In 1987, when 5thWorld Champ was held in Beijing, CHN made clean sweep through : MS -- Yang Yang WS -- Han Aiping MD -- LYB/Tian Bing Yi WD -- Guan Weizhen/Lin Ying XD -- Wang Pengren/Shi Fangjing Two years later in Jakarta/1989 CHN got 4 titles from world-meet : MS -- Yang Yang ; WS -- Li Lingwei ; MD -- LYB/TBY ; WD -- GWZ/LY. XD grabbed by KOR's pair Park Joo Bong / Chung Myung Hee. *From KOR SS Final: - CHN is very dominance in 3 divisions but very weak in MD (as usual) - Special credit to KOR's MD, beat two formidable pairs :KKK/TBH and T/C - LD's victory isn't enough meaningful because he didn't KO any big names here (except his strong escorts BCL & CJ). Madrid story happened again! If LD won last week in KL, exactly his triumphant was so much better and superb. After he defeated TH-KJ-PG and BCL in final. WoW all of them are elite shuttlers... - This final in Seoul yesterday was BORING compare than in KL. It's not quite good to make bdm more globally. Seems so many empty seats in that olympic-class stadium. Congratz for the Chinese and Korean!
Actually, you would be quite surprised if you knew the results. Not only once, actually many times, China badminton players have swept all titles in many high star tournaments and even world championships. I don't have all the records, but just for the 6 star China open, China have swept all titles in the year 1987 at Nanjing, same year, swept all champions at World championships in Beijing; then in 1995, 6 star China open, China swept all titles again in Chengdu; then in 2001, they did again and again, swept all titles in Ningbo. I don't remember other tournaments, I'm sure they must have completed the similar feats elsewhere. Such as world cup, and China masters give them the home court advantages also.
