YONEX ASTROX 88S & 88D (2018)

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  1. Leemarc

    Leemarc Regular Member

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    Ask Victor axelson. He switch from DZS to 88S and he lost consecutively. Losing his world no 1 spot and haven't win any SS this year. He definitely play better using DZS.
     
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    This. DZS being extra stiff was far more stable than 88S. It's obvious watching his matches now as he makes far more mistakes.
     
  3. Parth Nayak

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    I don't believe he switching to 88s led to his decline. The main problem that he has is Momota stands between him and glory and his game style has been not able to put any pressure on Momota or LCW. I am with DZS also he would have issues as good players around him have read his game .
     
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    And momota as far as i know also uses an AX88? So it couldn't have been the racket☺

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  5. Okaharu

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    What @Leemarc meant was the DZS suited Axelson's play style more than the AX88S. Or that Axelson simply played better with the DZS.
    It's not saying one racquet is superior to the other but simply one plays better for him than the other.

    Which is why I always reckon racquet recommendation can only be helpful to a certain extent and ultimately, you would still have to try them yourself to really know if it suits you. One man's trash can be another man's treasure. Everyone's different.
     
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    Yes, in a way I agree but what I think is Momota and LCW are reason we haven't been able to see him win finals. He has been consistently coming to Sf or Finals and is still going strong against players such as Son Wan Ho and Shi Wuqi . I didn't mean to say rackets were inferior in any way.
     
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    very less backhand smashes, he was more playful with arc11
     
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    oh ARC11. You know where I am with it. Love it to bits.
     
  9. llrr

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    KM uses 88D which is different to 88S. D is a far more stable racquet because it's stiffer than the S.
     
  10. Babar

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    Axelsen had surgery on his ankle... To link a decrease of performance to his racket change sounds a bit stupid to me
     
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    Of course the injury affected him. I did not ever say that the racquet change was the only reason for his decline in form, but if you watch his recent matches where he was obviously able to keep up with the pace of the rally, but then inexplicably lift wide, drop wide, or smash wide, then you have to wonder if he's not used to the more flexible 88S.
     
  12. Ch1k0

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    User error

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    I agree, I think it's mostly user error, and, possibly, the recovery from the ankle surgery, plus a whole load of mental blocks/problems

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    You said that ^
    Which is a lot different IMO than just "wondering"

    So yes you can wonder all you want, but to me, the relation between the mistakes he makes and the racket change is far from obvious. Let me remind you that he was using before the DZS an ARC11, which has a stiffness close to the 88S.

    If I had to guess the main reason he's playing at a lower level, I would say it is related to his surgery. To elaborate I would say : he doesn't have as good movement as before, he doesn't have the same confidence in his leg and he probably lost some stamina (because less training). All in all, he is slightly late on the shuttle, he's more tired, and a part of his mind is worried about his ankle. => that would make more sens IMO than "his racket is less stiff"
     
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    let it sink and clash, then youll be in love with bits
     
  16. Ch1k0

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    No no no. It's "in bits".

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    Stole my joke. Obviously wrote it better than I did hahaha
    If you love something you gotta embrace its flaws and imperfections :p
     
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    Which one is stiffer, S or the D? Compare the 4U versions
     
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    Tge D is a lot stiffer

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  20. flogge20

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    And compared to the JS10?

    I am asking because I get shoulder issues after each session with the S. I am not able to do pushups for about 3 days. But I really like the 88S feel so it is a pity to gave it up. With the JS10 there were no issues.

    And... I read really superb things about the D
     

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