Withdrawals From Japan Open 2009

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  1. ye333

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    Most of the Chinese players need to prepare the National Games, which is very very important --- a JPO champion means several thousand bucks, but a NG medal means not only good money, but also good retirement plan. ;)

     
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    Hope all the best..

    ..hope everything will be fine with him. Rest is the best medicine.:cool:
    But coming back soon to compete in the CHN National Games??..:confused:
     
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    When I watched China Master Open yesterday, XZB retired in the final match cause of heart problem. So it did not suprise me at all that he and ZYW did not play JO.

    And I also saw lots of the players not 100 % fit. LD had tapped in his arms and legs. ZYW had tapped in her wrists. etc etc. Looks like most of them feel they need to be fresh and fit when they play National Games.

    This is only Japan Open. I remember few years ago, top China tennis players like Li Na, Zheng Jie etc even did not play Wimbledon cause they decided that compete in CHN national games much more important than Wimbledon.

    So again no suprise at all that most of China players skip JO.
     
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    intensive training to win national games, therefore the unfitness or lack of recovery, and playing the China Masters maybe? hopefully the chinese players will get some recovery, and hopefully the ones with the heart conditions will maybe take it slowly from now on...after reading that only 20% show symptoms and 80% the first symptom is death...i'm a little scared to go do my badminton training ><....
     
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    Heart problem covers a wide range of possibilities. Speaking in general, it could be something as uncomplicated as an irregular heartbeat. It's not uncommon for young people to have it. My brother was diagnosed with it in his 20's.
     
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    yup, absolutely ;)
     
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    If he is getting better, than he will compete in National Games as you know how important is National Games in China. :D If he is getting more serious, he will stop competing in the National Games. Depends on his condition.
     
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    it's extrasystole
     
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    With Du Jing/Yu Yang withdrawal, bright chance for Nitya/Greysia to progress into semifinal and possible scenario will challenge either top-seed MAS WD, Chin/Wong or China pair Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli.
     
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    Gong Weijie has also withdrawn. Is he still in the Chinese squad? He did not participate in the Chinese Master either. Is something wrong with him?
     
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    but wang xin and ma jin/wang xiao li is still there:D
     
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    Gong WJ got a foot sprain in the training before the China master. He gave up Japan open for more resting and preparing the national games
     
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    Yes, it makes sense to excel in NG than JO.

    But Team CHN has the best foresight of all. When they planned for JO, surely they would have taken NG into account? If they had wanted to focus on NG, why take the trouble to sign them up for JO at all?

    Oh, I get it! Maybe LYB wanted to have some fun and give BWF extra work. Then reward them with generous donations from having to pay penalty for late withdrawals. After all, they struck lottery, sweeping CM and it's just not Chinese not to return some to source.

    Naughty LYB.
     
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    Interesting... lets enjoy the tournament. ;)
     
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    People here always over-simplify everything in China to LYB. In your brain China=LYB, but that's not true, people always over-simplify things when they don't understand it. If people outside badminton, think badminton=Kang Young Joong, the president of world badminton federation, and view everything in badminton as Kang Young Joong's idea. That's absolutely wrong.

    LYB has few interest in the national games, although he can use it to test his national team members and find new blood for his team. But his job, his position, his income will not change no matter who wins the national games. His job performance will be evaluated from the results of Olympics, the most important, and World championships a little bit.

    Japan open has nothing to do with LYB's job. anyhow, it might change his income. A lot of things got involved here also, sponsors, travelling expsenses and prize money,.., all should be taken into account.

    Players are supposed to be the most important in their own decision making. They are all trained and paid by their own provinces when they were kids. Each province has the responsibility for the whole welfare and future of the players. Provinces are the direct employer for each player.

    Provinces do not care about Japan open at all. The badminton officials in the provinces have their own job performance to be evaluated. Those evaluations are only based on national games and olympics. Since very few players in Olympics, while all the players have to play at the national games, including team events, individual events, among 30 provinces. If the players perform well in the national games, the badminton officials at provinces level will get a better evaluation. Player himself will get big bonus. That's the only way to evalute the local officials. No one will pay any attention to the Japan open for provincial officials job performance, and also the open tournaments are not meansurable.

    That's the reason the national games are so competitive. But it doesn't mean Bao CL perfer more national games than Japan open. For each individual players, things could be different.

    For Bao CL, he has lost many ranking points, and will lose more for the 2008 China master semi points. He just has 7 tournaments compared to others have best 10 out of 13 or 14, even 15. His ranking has been plumetting without stop. He also failed in the previous tournaments due to bad draw and bad luck. So he has to collect points quickly. That's the reason he is playing the Japan open without any hesitation. Same reason applies to Wang YH, Jiang YJ, Chen Long, Wang Xiaoli...

    For Gong WJ, he sprained his foot, he thought he would be fine before the Japan open, but it's still hurt. More important, he will face Bao CL in the 2nd round in the draw, and probably will be ended there. So he changed his mind to concentrate on the national games. Also his province gave him pressure to concentrate on the national games.

    Bad draw (early encounter with other Chinese players) is a major reason. And another popular reason is lack of confidence. In the China master, Chen Jin realize that he's not in a good form, he said he needs more training on some areas which are very important. Then he changed his mind to skip Japan open to avoid loss and concentrate on comprehensive training which he needs. Same reason applies to Lu Lan too.

    Injury could be another reason. Xie ZhongBo desperately needs ranking points, he withdraw from Japan open at the last minute purely because of unfitness. If the player is not fit well, the provincial officials will ask him to get rest and better prepare for the national games too. Please remember, provincial officials don't have to listen to LYB at all.

    I don't think you can use Naughty LYB to explain all these things.
     
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    Anyone know why Lee Yong Dae & Lee Hyo Jung had a walkover? LYD still recovering from injury?
     

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