who's hot and who's not

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  1. 2cents

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    Lin Dan is still hot, actually, Lin Dan has been always hot.

    Lee CW would be hot only when Lin Dan was hibernating.

    Some people arguing that Lin Dan has been always escorted by other Chinese players to grab the title. That might be the case 1 year ago, when Chen Hong, Chen Yu still there, Bao CL and Chen Jin were in peak form. Remember that years ago, China sent just Chen Hong and Chen Yu to the Denmark open, they can defeat all the other super stars and grab the champion and runner up.

    But now, Chen Hong and Chen Yu retired, Bao CL has been suffering injuries, Chen Jin has been losing his sharpness. But Lin Dan is still hot, defeated all the foreign players to win without stop.

    Wang YH, when she swept all the titles in Europe, from Germany, All England, and Swissland early this year, she was no doubt the hottest that time. Most people believed that she would win the world championship. She also succeed to turn herself into Lee YB's protégé, but she has lost form since then, lost terrible in Malaysia, in Indonesia, in World championship, in Singapore, in China master,..., Even though I knew her lost her form before world championship, that's the reason I predicted Lu Lan as the winner at WC. But now I still want to list Wang YH as the most "who's not"

    Who's Hot(overall): Lin Dan
    Who's Not(overall): Wang YH

    Who's Hot(men): Lin Dan
    Who's Not(men): Chen Jin

    Who's Hot(women): Wang Shixian
    Who's Not(women): Wang YH


    Chen Jin has lost to Wong CH, and Boonsak, both were unexpected.

    Wang Shixian had a perfect run at China master, her skill at net is perfect.
     
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    What about MD............HOT CY/FHF

    NOT ............?
     
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    ???

    CY/FHF were so hot that CY even got a fever ?

    my power ranking, ranked by their power, not by points:

    MS:
    (1) Lin Dan
    (2) Lee CW
    (3) Chen Jin, Taufik, Bao CL, Sony
    (7) Park, Gade, Boonsak, ...

    WS:
    (1) Lu Lan, Wang Shixian
    (3) Wang Lin, Wang Xin
    (5) Xie XF, Zhou Mi, Wang YiHan, Jiang YJ, ...
     
  4. AlanY

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    i would suggest Taufik and Boosak to swap place in your list. Xie XF aleady retried from international tournaments and will retire soon after the CHN national game. so, you can delete her aswell.
     
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    why dont u comment other event than ms and ws?
    this 2 event is so predictable:cool:
     
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    thank both Alan Y and limsy. It seems that both of you basically agree with what I said.

    I only ranked singles. Several reasons:

    1) Even few top single players skipped this China master. Only top tens were: Taufik (MS 4), Sony (MS 6), and Nehwal (WS 8). So this China master is a very high competitive tournament in singles both men and ladies. For doubles, there were about 20 top tens not there. therefore, there is not enough data to support who's hot and who's not. I even cannot remember who won the doubles at WC

    2) Singles are more interested than doubles, at least for me. Especially, you cannot draw conclusion that one of the guy from a pair is hot or not. that's the same reason that all super stars are singles player, you cannot expect a super star who is a double player.
     
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    Comparing China master and Japan open. Assuming wr #1 (Lee CW) 10 points, #2 Chen J 9 points,.. Wang CH (#10 1 point). and assume

    Competitive index= (total points of top ten players)/55 *100%

    1) Men's singles:
    .....CM: missing Taufik and Sony. Competitive index=78%
    .....JO: missing Chen Jin and Lin Dan. Competitive index=72%

    2) Ladies' singles:
    .....CM: missing nehwal. Competitive index=95%
    .....JO: missing Lu L, XieX, Wang Chen Competitive index=76%

    3) Men's doubles:
    .....CM: missing a lot. Competitive index=small%
    .....JO: missing CHN and Lee YD Competitive index=not big%

    4) Ladies' doubles:
    .....CM: missing a lot. Competitive index=small%
    .....JO: missing strong CHN pairs Competitive index=not big%

    5) Mixed doubles:
    .....CM: missing a lot. Competitive index=small%
    .....JO: missing CHN and Lee YD Competitive index=not big%

    Although Lin Dan, Cai Yun/Fu HF, Yu Yang/Du Jing, Lu Lan, Wang SX, Wang Xin... are all ranked low, they are obviously the best, at least one of few the best. Unfortunately those lower ranked, but extremely powerful players will all skip the Japan open. Therefore, the prestige Japan open cannot represent world level competition. Neither can China master doubles. Anyhow, only the China master singles, both men and ladies should be world level competition in these 2 super series. What a pity.
     
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    Wang Shixian is hot in more ways than one ;):p
     
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    hottie has to have big boobs... Wang SX is a cuttie at most.
     
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    So no badminton players are hot then
     
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    Have to disagree with you on this point. Korea's XD and MD player Lee Yong Dae is definitely considered the star of both his pairings.

    I think widely considered as an exceptional star player who would enjoy even more success with more consistent partners.
     
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    lol, naughty. but badminton babes is not like tennis babes:p look a serena williams for example:D:D
     
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    I've always preferred doubles, then XD, singles last ;)
    I thought this thread is about who's hot as in handsome hunks & hotie cutie :D
     
    #13 eaglehelang, Sep 22, 2009
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    super star is not equal to hot player;)
    famous is not equal to hot player
    still to me,md is the best:D
    different opinion:)
     
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    tennis racket and ball are heavier than badminton so she need those 'upper weights' as counterweight for each stroke:p
     
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    the racket is also very high 'tension':D
     
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    Wang YH

    Though Wang is not hot, she is still the best player.
    Her way of playing is on the top of the world! Just like men skill!!
    POWER! SPEED!
    As long as she attends enough match, she will own good mentality!

    Also, Wang SX' skill is pretty good!
    Wang YH was beaten by her patience and perfect skill!
    Maybe she can attend London Olympic.

    Chinese women players are all so good that they all have the chance to enter for Olympic games!;););)
     
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    "who's hot and who's not" is just a phrase for listing the best and worst current forms for badminton players. The hot here is not a sexual attrative index.

    Before admitted in the first squad of China nation team, Wang YH had won all the way from China world cup, Japan open, Gemany open, All England, Swiss.... looked like invincible pretty much. But during that time, Lee YB always claimed that Wang YH was not good enough.

    Finally Wang YH got into the 1st squad, became Lee YB's protege. After that, Wang YH herself claimed that she's fundamentally better than before. She said, even she won before but didn't know why and how she won. She has learnt from Lee YB that she can control the match now, would won whenever she wants to.

    But the fact is she cannot win anymore. She lost badly and early at Singapore open, Indon open, World champiship, China master,... That's the reason I don't think she's hot. It has nothing to do with her body curvature.

    It is true that China women have tremendous depth. Wang Xin is an example. There are many players like Wang Xin in each provincial teams with no chance to play international. Normally, players like Wang Xin will play only inside China, but her life changed by accidents. She's the only player promoted directly from provincial team to the national team. All these are simply because she's the friend of coach Zhang Ning.

    After her debut at Malaysia open, Wang Xin has beaten all foreign players, including Wong MC, Nehlwal, Tina Rasmussen.... She has a perfect record, never lost to any foreigners, actually.

    There is not just 1 Wang Xin, there are plenty of Wang Xin. Even when Zhang Ning and Xie XF were in their peak form, they both lost in the first round of the last national games to unknowns.

    Therefore, Olympics can only tell you who's the best in badly selected 32 people. It doesn't have any clue who's the best in the world.
     
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    oh!! I see!
    ur view is quite right!!
     
    #19 gcwse, Sep 24, 2009
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    Normally, the term used is not 'hot' but some other, doesnt matter lah.
     

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