who will win the 2005 Sudirman Cup?

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Who will win the 2005 Sudirman Cup?

  1. China

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  2. Denmark

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  3. England

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  4. Hong Kong, China

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  5. Indonesia

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  6. Korea

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  7. Sweden

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  8. Thailand

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  1. New_Guy04

    New_Guy04 Regular Member

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    I believe Kenneth is a good player and all, and he will definetely give a good fight to the players in china, indonesia, etc. But would he win??? I 95% doubt it. In crucial games like this, i have almost never saw kenneth come up with a victory, ESPECIALLY in team events such as TC cup. He ALWAYS goes to a tight third set, but then always loses at the end. I seriously have no clue as to why he always does that, but i believe he won't prevail during this sudirman cup.
     
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    I am not pro-china as a spectator. But my money is on Chinese team in this tournament for sure. Posters here do see a lot of strength in many different teams. Me too. But for determination to win the trophy, no team did it better than the present China team. People could cite Chen Hong's slipping whenever it was crucial. I could blame it on his lack of discipline, too much anxiety and poor management between power and endurance. I could observe that he has better patience coming into 2005 and has better resist the temptation of smashing the shuttle to the sidelines of the court and giving away easy points to his opponent. He was always a big hitter but now he is more a winner. Even more so is the young Lin Dan. He is now the master on court, the master of torturing every opponent in-sight until they yield. I am eagerly waiting for emergence of a new Gade or new Hydayit who is more powerful, skillful and most importantly energetic enough to bit Lin Dan. Recent form of the MD pair Fu and Cai is admirable in that they exhibit phenomenal speed and consistency. Leave-no-prisoners approach of Chinese women team is not particularly entertaining to me. Again and again, whatever wonderful techniques demonstrated by other European and Asian teams are still no-match for the bodily advantage of the Chinese girls in singles and doubles. Very likely China would not be challenged in group stage and I would be surprised if any team could push them to dig deep in the semi-final and final stage. If China do get anything less than champion, it is time to think about if the present management of the Chinese team deserves leading such marvellous players.
     
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    I agree wth you. The only big match Kenneth had won in group event that I can remember was Thomas Cup 2002 in China. He beat Lee Hyun Il that time in group preliminary and made his team won against Korea 3-2.

    Beside that, he usually lost in important matches. So I guess the Danes better play Peter Gade in MS. Although he is not as fast as his younger days (he is 28 or 29 for christsake) but he is still the most dangerous player the Danes had.
     
  4. jkusmanto

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    Just looked at the draw in group 1A and 1B.

    In group 1B, Hong Kong and Sweden will not make it to the semi.
    THe first place will be taken by China, and Indo will be in the second place.

    From the four team in 1A, my feeling is that Korea and Denmark will go through to the semi. Sorry for England and Thailand funs. :D It doesn't that I under estimate England and Thailand, but right at moment, difficult for them to break to the semi.

    Now, who will sit in the first place ? Korea or Denmark ?
    Denmark will take 2 point from MS and MD, as well as Korea, Korea will take 2 point from WS and WD.
    The crusial of the match between Korea and Denmark is in XD.
    The gap between Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager and Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung is very thin.
    My feeling goes to Denmark.

    So, Denmark will face Indonesia. And China vs Korea.
    China will win from Korea by taking 3 points from MS, MD and WD or WS.
    Denmark will win from Indonesia by taking 3 point from MD, XD and WD or WS.

    The final : China vs Denmark. I don't know. :D
    But if according to what I will, I will Denmark to take the price.
     
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    mm i thought kim/ra were making a comeback? however, eriksen/schholdager have improved a lot since olympics going down 2-0 in the semi finals.
     
  6. *~Taufik~*

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    does anyone know the order of play? and will it be the same for all matches?
     
  7. Mag

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    Rikke Olsen injured

    Rikke Olsen is off the Danish team due to a back problems.
    This really only affects their WD, as it is not likely that Rikke would have been cast to play any mixed matches. For Denmark, it means nothing against the strong WD nations like China and Korea, where the Danes would lose that point with or without Rikke. However, it could turn out to be a decisive factor against Thailand or in a potential semi-final clash against Indonesia.
     
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    mm that is bad news for rikke and denmark...who will play WD for denmark then? ALJ has retired right?
     
  9. Mag

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    It's not decided yet. And yes, Ann-Lou has retired. But whoever they choose to replace Rikke on the team will probably not get any court time.

    The most likely WD combinations are:
    Helle Nielsen/Pernille Harder
    Mette Schjoldager/Pernille Harder
    Helle Nielsen/Kamilla Juhl

    All those pairs have played together in training.
     
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    no doubt china will win........

    China's dominance + China's home in this sudirman cup = CHINA WIN
     
  11. RaymondLin

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    You never know lammergeier02... example:look at the olympics and how it turned out :p

    Ya but I agree China has a big percentage to win the Surdirman Cup.
     
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    Theres a guy named Charles Pyne, i think hes playing for Denmark or Canada. He should have a pretty good chance for Mens Singles.
     
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    Huh? Charles who?
     
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    This is a jamaican player.
    What do you mean? :confused:
     
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    ehh, charles,,,oh,,,that,,,imean,,,who?:confused:
    i dun know this guy , sooo, he plays for what?
     
  16. Hawkefire

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    Im not quite sure what team he plays for. Coulda sworn he plays for Canada but i could be wrong. Anyways, i think he has a good chance of taking Mens Singles.
     
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    Hey,

    1/ Charles Pyne is Jamaican and plays for Jamaica,
    2/ Sudirman Cup is a TEAM competition,
    3/ Jamaica has no chance of winning the Sudirman Cup!! :p
     
  18. jkusmanto

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    You never know :cool:
    Remember ! Jamaica had a bobsle team for Winter Olympic Games. :D :D :D

     
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    hmm... I have a doubt somehow... :rolleyes: ;)
     
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    seeing as jamaca are not in division 1, i think its pretty much more than impossible for them to win:eek:
     

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