What additional tools do i need to start stringing?

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by p2user, Jun 8, 2022.

  1. Frosty

    Frosty Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2006
    Messages:
    278
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Old Klang Road
    Yeah, I did mention this as well in another(?) thread asking for advice on drop weight machines that after calibrating a drop weight machine, when stringing it is best for consistent tension to have the gripper as close as possible to the position when calibration was done. This is especially true for drop weight machines which employ this type of gripping mechanism, like the superstringer.

    The size/weight of the gripper will also affect how much difference there will be. In your pictures, I think the gripper you have seems to be of the smaller/lighter variant, so the effect will be less compared to the bigger/heavier versions.

    IMHO, in my own case, the deviation can become too big to ignore, especially if the ending position of the gripper varies too much throughout the whole stringing process.
     
  2. Brunoille

    Brunoille Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2019
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    France
    arundeep likes this.
  3. arundeep

    arundeep Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2010
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    13
    Occupation:
    Badminton coach, SAP consultant
    Location:
    Zadar
    Yes, this thread I know, as that was the reason I did calculations in 2018?. Btw, sheet I used for calculation is available . Unfortunately, it is not google sheets friendly. I hope one can find the formula in it, which is based on the feedback I got from physics guys and seems to have been confirmed by practical observations as well. @Frosty you can download the sheet and change the paramters based on your machine to calculate the variation.

    Btw, off topic, but as you mentioned "strange beleives" above, I recently came across something new, I never heard before. "Birds aren't real !!!" . just in case someone is curious.
     
  4. arundeep

    arundeep Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2010
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    13
    Occupation:
    Badminton coach, SAP consultant
    Location:
    Zadar
    thanks for this measurements. I don't have a precise/consistent weighing device to convert theory to observation.
     
  5. Brunoille

    Brunoille Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2019
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    France
    I looked after old photos I took before my gripper modification.
    As I wrote before on a ~10.5 kg tension, I measured a variation of + / - 0.5 kg between the extreme positions of the gripper; this is coherent with your simulation.
     

    Attached Files:

    kakinami and arundeep like this.
  6. kakinami

    kakinami Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    491
    Occupation:
    Sports House Career Hiratsuka Kanagawa stringer
    Location:
    Chigasaki, Kanagawa Japan
    My most common used tools in my arsenal. I use toy model cutters, 30° mini bent nose pliers, awl as a string mover, grommet grinder and grommet remover, Yonex starting clamp for when I use reels I am always short on my tails to get as much string as I can out of my reels, a floating clamp to help me use finishing knots on my crosses instead of a starting knot and a finishing knot, and ¥100 crab scissors that are bent to help cut string easier. The toy model cutters are great to cut flared damaged grommets flush to the frame to remove easier, but need to be careful not to cut new grommets to close to the frame. These are my home tools, my work tools are a little more heavy duty, not really necessary for what I do, overkill.[​IMG]

    Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk
     
  7. kakinami

    kakinami Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    491
    Occupation:
    Sports House Career Hiratsuka Kanagawa stringer
    Location:
    Chigasaki, Kanagawa Japan
    That digital scale is pretty cool! I use this one.[​IMG]

    Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk
     
  8. kakinami

    kakinami Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    491
    Occupation:
    Sports House Career Hiratsuka Kanagawa stringer
    Location:
    Chigasaki, Kanagawa Japan

    At about 10:46 is where I use the flying clamp to help me use a finishing knot instead of a starting knot for my crosses.
     
    thyrif likes this.
  9. toy_cel

    toy_cel New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2006
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Perth
    Great admirer of your stringing prowess. I'm still learning to string, please excuse my silly questions. Why did you only do the finishing knot after tensioning 3 or 4 crosses ahead with the use a flying clamp? Any advantages? Can it be done with only the fixed clamps if one don't have a flying clamp?
     
    kakinami likes this.
  10. kakinami

    kakinami Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    491
    Occupation:
    Sports House Career Hiratsuka Kanagawa stringer
    Location:
    Chigasaki, Kanagawa Japan
    If I were to try with no flying clamp I might clamp cross #10, my tail of cross #9 is on my left, with my right clamp towards as much left as you can with the right clamp, them pull cross #9, I add 10% to my knot string and then knot. Then I would pull cross #10 as usual and then finish. Since you have tensioned cross #9 when you pull cross #10 there will not be much pulling on cross#9 because it is pretty much tensioned. Sometimes for me at higher tensions my knot on my cross breaks the main, that is why I feel much more comfortable stringing like this.

    Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk
     
    toy_cel likes this.
  11. kakinami

    kakinami Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    491
    Occupation:
    Sports House Career Hiratsuka Kanagawa stringer
    Location:
    Chigasaki, Kanagawa Japan
    My shop tools:
    3.peaks SN-130 precision nippers ¥5500
    Fujiya MP9AT-110 mini bent nose pliers ¥1700
    Yonex cutters
    Yonex flying clamp
    Yonex awl as a string mover
    Grommet grinder from China (red handle)¥400
    Grommet remover from China (gold handle) ¥400
    RAB 3mm grommer grinder
    Yonex starting clamp as an extender when I pull short

    For tennis I add:
    Babolat starting clamp
    Parallel pliers

    My nippers can cut piano wire
    [​IMG]

    Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk
     
  12. kakinami

    kakinami Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    491
    Occupation:
    Sports House Career Hiratsuka Kanagawa stringer
    Location:
    Chigasaki, Kanagawa Japan
    I tension 3 crosses and then tie off to get rid of my flying clamp so it doesn't obstruct me or I accidentally hit it and it comes off. I feel no extra tension from pulling my crosses will pull on my knot making it sink or accidentally breaking the main. Hope that makes sense.
     
    toy_cel likes this.

Share This Page