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Discussion in 'China Open (1) / Macau Open / New Zealand Open 200' started by limsy, Sep 25, 2008.
wait untill tomorrow la..
btw, kitten looks good to creating another upsets 2moro
wyh rank higher than wl....so...not consider upset............
That's why we say Tony is GOD...
I can't agree more than that.
I would say Tony is one of the greatest of all time, if not the best... but I strongly suggest not to violate the 1st commandment though, even if you are not religious. I do understand you don't mean it seriously, but yeah... I hope you know what I mean.
I think he just simply means GOAT (Greatest of All Time)...
i have no doubt he is one of the better players from INA but to put him inline with GOD is a bit too much.
there are much more good players to mentioned
ng boon bee / tan yee khan / punch gunalan
tjun tjun / christian hadinata
park joo bong / kim moon soo
rexy / ricky
li yong bo / tian bing yi
razif / jailani
i still remember 1985 jvc open in stadium negara park /kim vs razif/ jailani. It is one ofthe perfect game with near zero unforced errors. superbly WORLD CLASS.
Tony Gunawan is still biting his pacifier admiring what is badminton, i reckon.
Upset in semifinal..
Wang Ling beat Wang Yi Han
Sony Dwi Kuncoro (WR 5) beat Bao Chun Lai (WR 3) in rubber set
Upsets In China Master Open
1)ai Goto(wr 95) Beat Reid Charmaine(wr 57),21-10,21-10
2)wang Yi Han(wr 17)beat Wang Chen(seeded 5,wr 10)13-21,21-16,21-17
3)SAINA NEHWAL(WR 12,SEEDED 7)BEAT ZHU LIN(WR 6,SEEDED 3)21-16,21-23,21-18
4)ZHOU MI(WR7,SEEDED 6)BEAT LU LAN(SEEDED 1,WR 2)10-21,21-13.21-14
5)WANG LIN(WR 36) BEAT YU HARIYAMA(WR 17)21-15,21-11
6)WANG YI HAN(WR17)BEAT TINE(WR3,SEEDED 2)24-22,26-24
7)WANG LIN(WR 36) BEAT WANG LI HAN (WR 17)21-14,18-21,21-11
1)qiu Yan Bo(wr 101) Beat Jan O Jorgensen(wr 34)21-11,21-12
2)yu Li(not In Bwf Ranking Table)beat Bobby Milroy(wr 60)21-12,21-19
3)YU LI(NOT IN BWF RANKING TABLE) BEAT JOACHIM PERSSON(WR 11,SEEDED 8)21-8,21-17
4)SONY(SEEDED 5,WR 5)BEAT BAO CHUN LAI(SEEDED 3,WR 3) 21-13,12-21,21-15
1)ag/joko(wr 21)beat Fairuz/zakry(wr 10) 12-21,21-19,21-8
2)khoo Chung Chiat/tan Bin Shen(wr 78) Beat Chan/chew(seeded 7,wr29)22-20,21-18
3)sun Jun Jie/xu Chen(wr 76)beat Koo/tan(seeded 3.wr 5)25-23,21-19
4)khoo Chung Chiat/tan Bin Shen(wr 78)beat Shen Ye/he Han Bin(wr 64)21-19,24-22
5)SUN JUN JIE/XU CHEN(WR 76)BEAT RAIN/YOKE(SEEDED 8,WR 17)21-12,18-21,21-13
6)SUN JUN JIE/XU CHEN(WR76)BEAT CAI/FU(SEEDED 2,WR 2)21-13,21-16
1)zhang Dan/zhang Zhi Bo(wr 125)beat Qian Tian/pan Pan(seeded 7,wr 47)17-21,21-7,21-9
2)cheng Shu/zhao Yun Lei(wr 60) Beat Greysia Polii/nitya(seeded 5,1st Time Pairing)19-21,21-14,22-20
3)ZHANG DAN/ZHANG ZHI BO(WR 125)BEAT WONG/CHIN(SEEDED 4,WR 10)14-21,21-14,22-20
4)CHENG SHU/ZHAO YUN LEI(WR 60)BEAT VITA/NATSIR(SEEDE 3,WR 7)21-19,10-21,21-11
5)ZHANG DAN/ZHANG ZHI BO(WR 125) BEAT KUNCHALA/AROONKESORN(SEEDED 6,WR 25)21-14,21-14
6)CHENG SHU/ZHAO YUN LEI(WR 60) BEAT GRETHER/REID(SEEDED 8,NO WR)21-13,21-8
1)sun Jun Jie/zhao Yun Lei(new Pair) Beat Songphon/kunchala(seeded 7,wr 20)21-19.18-21,21-9
2)shen Ye/pan Pan(new Pair) Beat Wong/lim(wr 59)21-19,21-19
3)RIJAL/VITA(SEEDED 6,NEW PAIRING IN SECOND TOURNAMENT,RANKING NOT FOUND IN BWF)BEAT SUDKET/SARALEE(SEEDED4,WR 5)18-21,21-12,21-15
4)XIE ZHONG BO/ZHANG YA WEN(SEEDED 3,WR 3)BEAT YU YANG/HE HAN BIN(SEEDED 2,WR 2)21-15,21-8
A bit off topic-Quick question...
...for our limsy, since he is BC's newest Upset-Statistic Engineer (USE)...If, say, LinDan (who is no longer #1) were to meet LeeCW (who we all know is currently ranked #1) tomorrow in a match, and beat him, would you consider that an upset??...
hmm...as u see...i doing this base on wr...mean that...wr will consider if that match is upset or not...my policy is: any lower rank player beat a higher rank opponent,that consider as upset...
because...the standard of upset is differ from all bc member here...maybe some will think wyh beat tr is not upset...but some think yes...and many many more...so,this is hard to torelate with all bc member...setting a guide line is a good solution for this...
well....everyone can sound out his/her opinion...if the majority think that this is not the best guide line,we can discuss and find the solution...
wr shows ur best result for one year...no excuse like compete in lesser tournament should be used...looks at lin dan ranking point...now...he have more semi finalist than lcw...and lcw have more finalist than lin dan...SO...IF LIN DAN was well performed(just blame lyb lah),then,he should have AT THE NO.1 spot...lcw cant takeover...hmm...so,if anyone disagree...pls tell me...
A good final is on the cards. Well done Sony... Play that funky music... hehe..
I think it is right to base these upsets on WR.
People will have there own opinion on whether it is or not, but the fact collecting by members is based on WR.
Cai/fu lost.. It's not an upset, it's LYB strategy.
Dont make any prejudice based on ur opinion
Seems he/she is LYB's asisstant....
yes it would because it would surely upset him
yes, lyb told this fu and cai to drag this match to a rubber set and beat the unseeded MAL pair in overtime
Yun CAI  [CHN] Haifeng FU [CHN] - [MAS] Thien How HOON MAS] Soon Hock ONG
21-15 17-21 22-20
Like a lot of ex-CHN players, many left the country to pursue better opportunity because of the corruption in the sports bureau, namely the pingpong/badminton association in China. Zhang Dan had personal grudge against Li Yongbo and was "let go". There are MANY MANY great ex-national players that got sent back to the province teams because of disagreement with the management. It's a very shady/dark situation - you have some very untalented players who come from a somewhat influential or even affluent family and they get to be the center of training focus no matter how poor of results they deliver.