Thomas & Uber Cups Preliminaries Asia Zone 2008: Day 6 Final

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  1. alfa-2

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    hcyong, pls read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_five

    some quote from that page, "Amongst baseball fans, Glenn Burke is recognized as the player who invented the high five. In 1977 he ran out onto the field to congratulate his Los Angeles Dodgers teammate Dusty Baker for hitting a home run in the last game of the regular season. His celebration has since been imitated by athletes and fans in virtually every sport around the world. The second recorded "high five" came moments later when Baker returned the favor in celebration of Burke's first major league home run."
     
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    Nothing wrong with being childish n awkward when we need to..debate on this.

    the issue is about high five.isnt it??thats childish n awkward too.
     
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    Luckily kkk didnt get occupied with his 'brad pitt' hairstyle.
     
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    so it's childish and awkward to talk about some players who are acting childish and awkward on court? are you saying that, sis? :D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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    If kkk did that,surely a lot of damnations will be post.
     
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    Koo_fan, another definition from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_five

    definition of high/low-five
    A high five is a celebratory gesture made by two people, each raising one hand to slap the raised hand of the other — usually meant to communicate mutual satisfaction to spectators or to extend congratulations from one person to another. The arms are usually extended into the air to form the "high" part, and the five fingers of each hand meet, making the "five".
     
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    yes.

    u do know that it is awkward n childish,why do u have talk about it then?
    Only those who are related with an issue will say something about that issue.

    n good to remember,i've never regard doing high five when losing is an awkward n childish.instead,it shows maturity.
     
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    it's as simple as you don't congratulate the family members on the funeral of their loved ones. it's about doing the right thing at the right time. every human gestures have their own special meaning as i have stated in my previous post where i have attached the definition of it.:D:D:D:D

    and i dont think it's childish or awkward to state something that i felt is not right to do. instead ignoring them, is kinda...........
     
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    First of all,congratulate at a funeral is totally unacceptable.It is not related here.

    high five is a symbol of appreciation.yes.technically generally.literally.
    But in zakry-fairuz case,try to understand that they are trying to say
    'its ok brother.we'll do better next time'
    'malaysians,this is not the end of the journey.we are still here.fight for our nation'

    Even if its not,why do we have to be prejudice?
     
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    Like when i joined a company, the boss will shake my hand as a gesture of welcoming me to the big family, but when i got sacked when i did something TERRIBLY wrong, i dont think the boss will shake my hand as it is the wrong gesture to do.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handshake
    The handshake is initiated when the two hands touch, immediately. Its purpose is to convey trust, balance, and equality.[1]
     
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    I rest my case.................
     
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    Alright,Thats a wrap...
    Peace everyone.
     
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    Hi mates,

    Stay cool, give some faith to the players. They will come back strongly.

    This is NO big upset!

    :):):):):)
     
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    Handshake for leaving the company is also to say with a finality "Good bye, good riddance" or "Wish you all the best swhere else but not here".

    As for Fuzzy, you may think it's childish, but Rexy didnt ask them not to do it. They normally do that bf the start of every rally, as encouragement to each other "We are one, we'll do good this next rally."
     
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    From The Star:

    Men’s doubles losses mar Malaysia’s campaign in qualifiers
    By RAJES PAUL

    PETALING JAYA: It would have been a perfect outing for Malaysia in the Thomas-Uber Cup qualifying tournament if not for the minor setback in the men’s doubles on the final day of action in Ho Chi Minh City on Sunday.
    Malaysia lived up to their promise when the men’s team confirmed their place in the Finals, which will be held in Jakarta from May 11-19, as the Asian qualifiers champions.
    The women too did their part by finishing as one of the top three teams to win automatic berths for the Finals. Malaysia finished third in the qualifiers.
    But the men’s doubles players’ inability to overcome South Korea’s strategy stole the headlines. After all, the premier world team competition is all about plotting the right strategies.
    On Sunday, Malaysia took on a weakened South Korean team and rode on the strength of their men’s singles players to score a 3-2 win in the final.
    The defeats of world No. 3 Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong and Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif to the scratch combinations of Lee Jae-jin-Jung Jae-sung and Park Sung-hwan-Hwang Ji-man spoiled Malaysia’s hopes of keeping a clean slate in the qualifiers.
    It looked as though the South Koreans made full use of the opportunity to try out different combinations while Malaysia stuck to their same old pairings in a bid to collect Olympic ranking points.
    National chief coach Yap Kim Hock admitted that the men’s doubles were caught with their pants down against the South Koreans.
    “Our players have the potential to beat anyone in the world and lose to anyone as well. We are still working on helping our players to be more consistent,” said Kim Hock in a telephone interview from Ho Chi Minh City before leaving for home yesterday.
    “The South Koreans fielded fresh faces for the final tie (the scratch combinations) while we fielded the same players. It should not have caught our players by surprise. In fact, our players did not play up to the mark but we will be more than prepared for the Finals.
    “Now, these players will go back home and focus their preparation on the All-England and Swiss Open (in March).”
    However, it was a different story for Malaysia as far as team strategy was concerned in the Uber Cup. They could even afford to try out different line-ups to confuse their opponents.
    In the third place playoff against Hong Kong, Malaysia could afford to rest national No. 1 Wong Mew Choo and still seal the tie with a 3-0 win.
    Said Mew Choo: “In the past, it was easy for our opponents to read the team line-up. Now, we can change and swap players and still give our opponents a tough time. It speaks well about the depth of the Malaysian women’s team.”
    Meanwhile, the 12-man and 12-woman cast for the Thomas and Uber Cup Finals have been completed, except for one slot in the women’s team event, after the end of the qualifiers in the Asian, European, Pan-American, African and Oceania zones.
    The Badminton World Federation (BWF) will use the world rankings on Feb 29 to determine whether Hong Kong or Scotland get to go to the Finals based on a new ruling in the Uber Cup. Both are the fourth-ranked teams in the Asian and European qualifiers and the team with better overall team rankings will get to go.
    As usual, the five teams set to challenge for honours in the Thomas Cup will be Malaysia, South Korea, Denmark, defending champions China and host Indonesia.
    China and Indonesia were exempted from the qualifiers. In the Uber Cup, the title is as good as defending champions China’s.
     
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    This one from nst :

    NST Online » <A class=blu href="http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport" target=_self>Sport
    2008/02/26

    Badminton: Situation critical for national pairs

    By : K.M. Boopathy


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    Koo Kien Keat (rear) and Tan Boon Heong should not underestimate unknown pairs.

    THE inconsistency of Malaysia's doubles pairs was yet again blatantly exposed, and alarmingly this time by South Korean scratch pairs, in the final of the Thomas Cup Asian Zone qualifying round in Ho Chi Minh City on Sunday.
    Malaysia may have emerged champions but Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, if they hope to be a power in the Beijing Olympics, and World No 14 Zakry Latiff-Fairuzizuan Tazari, if they are harbouring any hopes of making it to Beijing, had better pull up their socks quickly.

    Malaysia eventually won the tie 3-2 but this was after Lee Chong Wei, Wong Choong Hann and Hafiz Hashim capitalised on Korea's weak singles line-up.

    Kien Keat-Boon Heong have, on numerous occasions, shown their tendency to lose to lesser-known opponents and it happened again on Sunday when they lost to Jung Jae Sung-Lee Jae Jin in three games.

    The Malaysian pair must stop the habit of treating unestablished pairs lightly, failing which they might end up paying a heavy price in major events.
    Kien Keat-Boon Heong will start the defence of their All England title in Birmingham a week from today and their path could be strewn with land mines starting with Japan's unpredictable Shuichi Sakamoto-Shintaro Ikeda, who dumped the Malaysian pair from the World Championships in Kuala Lumpur last year.

    But what is more alarming is that Kien Keat-Boon Heong's pathetic habit could blow any chance Malaysia has of winning gold in the Olympics, and national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky has to start drilling into his top pair to stop the showboating and get serious.

    As for Zakry-Fairuz, they looked more like victims of over-confidence against Hwang Ji Man and Park Sung Hwan and paid dearly when they took Sung Hwan, more a singles player, lightly.

    Lack of focus and commitment have bugged the pair, especially Fairuz, and if they don't buck-up, their chances of qualifying for Beijing could go up in smoke.

    No one knows for sure, but if there is problem persisting in the Malaysian camp, the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) and head coach Yap Kim Hock must act fast to douse it as the Olympics are only five months away.

    On a happier note, the women - except for the semi-final loss to Japan - put in some polished displays and qualified for the Uber Cup finals on merit when they finished third.

    BAM must continue exposing the women and who knows, they could surprise with a semi-final showing in the Uber Cup in Jakarta in May
     
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    LOL...with nothing worth discussing here, its interesting how ppl now focus on the high-fives and make it into a big issue....:eek::mad::eek:
     
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    kinda reminds me of sepak takraw, where the players always hold hands when they get a point or when they lose a point. the same gesture for both occasion. so maybe the highfive was not meant to be celebratory but merely encouraging each other. :) and gesture mean different things to many people. highfives are universally known to be celebratory but some people have been known to use it in a different context.
     
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    True, its not about the point that was played, its about the playing the next point, focusing on the next point. Its that simple...
     
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    i totally agree with you...the korean pairs, although they are called as scratch pairs; are not scratch players...they are four good and amazing players...whether they are scratch pairs or not, the chances of winning are the same...coz they are all good players...kkk/tbh in fact gained new experiences from this loss..they had the chance to actually feel how to handle a pair that they have never encountered before..the curious feelings, the doubtness..everything..they may not be in their best form when playing with the korean, but hey, it is not fair to say that based on this, kkk/tbh will fail in their every encounters with other pairs, right...(i said this coz they are people who say that "based on their performance against the korean scratch pair, they definitely unable to defend their all england title"...huhu)...and it is definitely unfair to say that the loss is humiliating...
     

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