Sudirman Cup report - semifinal China vs. Indonesia

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  1. kwun

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    China vs. Korea

    The first semi final played in the Cup was between China and Korea. The line up is:

    Bao vs. Taufik
    Zhou Mi vs. Kristen Maria
    Zhang Wei / Cai Yun vs. Candra / Sigit
    Wei Yili / Zhao TingTing vs some unknown

    Bao vs. Taufik

    In my analysis article posted last week in badmintonforum.com, I speculated that Taufik’s injury that causes his early exit in the all England may still be affecting his performance. After all, he mentioned skipping the Japan Open later on in the year. However, today Taufik played rather excellently.

    Slow to the start, Bao was in the attack all game, quickly rushes to 7-1. I noticed one of the strategy that Bao used was to use fast and flat attacking clear and since Taufik stands one head below Bao, that was rather effective and managed to force a few short lifts. In addition, Bao is really tall, his jumping tap smashes are really sharp despite Taufik’s defense.

    At the first couple of games, Taufik’s wasn’t really showing his real stuff, his defense was slower than normal pace. However, he started to wake up in the second game, and with the display of the signature rear court jumpsmashes (you gotta be here to appreciate how powerful that was) and excellent tactics with defense. A few occasions, we see Taufik was so confidence in his defense, he deliberately fed half court high pushes to Bao and all Taufik did was to manipulate Bao left and right on half court, Bao being less experienced often erroneously hit the birdie into the net. Taufik claimed game 2.

    The 3rd game was very exciting. With a lot of service exchanges. I remember they were stuck at 5-5 at one point and there must have been around 15 service exchanges. Both players shows what they are made of, Taufik was excellent both offensively and defensively, I was a bit disappointed that Taufik didn’t show many tricky shots, he did attempted to make a few really extravagant cross court drives but were not too successful. But Taufik’s backhand is just as amazing, despite the fact that he relies on it too often and Bao was able to read them. Bao on the other hand, was always fast to getting the shot, he took all shots at the earliest position, however, I felt that he was more mechanical and less fun to watch with little variation and creativity in shot choices. I also noticed that Bao made A LOT of service errors, he must have given up 6-7 services from serving into the net. I think he will need to work on that more.

    The 3rd game lasted a long time and Taufik eventually came on top at 15-13.

    Indonesia 1 – China 0

    I believe the Chinese was probably expecting Bao to win a point here, but with Bao’s lpost,, China needs to grab all of WS/WD/XD. The next match was between Zhou Mi and Marie Kristen.

    Zhou Mi vs. Marie Kristen

    Zhou Mi we all know. Marie Kristen is some really young player, from her look she must be at most 18. may be even younger, and when compared to Zhou Mi, she is much more petite. My reaction before the game is that the game is similar to getting herself tie down in a chopping board and the butcher can have then start chopping her into pieces. However, to my surprise, Zhou Mi was having a little bit of trouble against Marie.

    Marie has a really strange stroke, we all know that coaching tells us the contact point ideally is in front of one’s head. But Marie’s preferred contact point is behind her head, while the power is less, it also means that the unorthodox stroke requires less court coverage and better in court situations. On top of that, the shot is harder to read. A couple of occasion, Zhou was unable to read Marie’s over the head and behind the head drop shots. Being petite also helped. I don’t believe Marie weighs anything more than 90lbs. comparatively, Zhou Mi’s movement was more taxing than Marie, covering corner to corner, we see Zhou Mi huffing and puffing and Marie was rather comfortable with it. Also, Marie reads Zhou’s shots well and was fast to the birdie and then deceptively chooses to take the shot at the last moment.

    Despite all that, Zhou Mi is after all Zhou Mi, she won the second tie 11-8 11-8.

    Indonesia 1 – China 1

    The next match was between Candra / Sigit and Zhang Wei / Cai Yun.

    Zhang Wei / Cai Yun vs. Candra / Sigit

    Oh, what a match. We all know about Candra and Sigit are capable of and how China’s MD is always their weakness. No one expects anything from China other than a training lesson learned.

    Not so.

    I have never seen Cai Yun played before, but I must say that I am very much impressed and Cai’s play was key to the match. Cai is a tall and well built guy. I’d say around 6 feet and 170lbs. not too big to be slow, and tall and big enough to be effectively offensively. His smashes are not fancy to watch like Sigit’s, but it was purely hard and effective. With Zhang’s relatively weaker smashes, we saw that Cai was the preferred person at the back. Cai being younger also means that he has much more energy, I only saw a slight tiredness at the middle of the match.

    Anyhow, Candra and Sigit was having a lot of trouble with the Chinese offense, after all, the Indonesian’s forte is the fast and furious flat drives that the Chinese seems to be avoiding. On top of that, the Chinese has amazing brick wall defense, despite how strong the attack was, the shuttle was always like hitting a brick wall. Both Zhang Wei and Cai. Even though the Indonesian seems to be prefer smashing to Cai for his less experience but Cai was more than up to the challenge.

    As for being a new comer, Cai only showed inexperience in a handful of occasions and was way more outweighed by his effective offense and defense. Cai played like a veteran, he was calm and composed throughout the match. He read the game well and have his own bag of trick shots

    And unbelievably, and must be a surprise to everybody, China won the match convincing in two games. I am very impressed by the progress that China has made in the MD, and impressed with the choice of players in the match. Tang and Li made the right choice and bargain with having Zhang Jun specialize in XD and have Zhang Wei partnered with a up and rising stronger young player. The future for China’s MD is bright indeed.

    Indonesia 1 – China 2

    At this point of the match, the outlook for Indonesia is grim indeed. While they won the MS, they lost the expected point from MD. With the remaining WD and XD matches. It will take a miracle for Indonesia to win.

    Wei Yili / Zhao TingTing vs. some unknown.

    Honestly, I don’t even remember the names of the two Indonesian young players. At this point, it doesn’t really matter who they are anymore. Despite one of them having a jump smash (we tend to see that more from the Indonesia WD team more than others) and pretty hard one as well. They were no match to the Chinese speed, power and experience.

    However, the Chinese do not seem to be in too good a form, I wasn’t expecting the scores to be that close, memory tells me they around 15-12 15-10. but eitherway, the girls delivered and China has won the semifinal with a score of 3-1
     
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    Just saw the Bao vs Taufik match.

    1) Both players are very fast.
    2) Bao rushes himself- hence service errors
    3) Bao has better confidence if he can get some quick points
    4) Bao has more difficulty getting back the rhythm once it is disturbed; on the other hand Taufik is very clever in getting his rhythm going again.
     
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    Saw it too, what a cracker.

    Taufik is so versatile in strokes and pace and speed and very deceptive

    it's like Liem Swie King combined with Rudy Hartono.

    Bao is very fast and sharper than Chen Hong but seems a bit tentative at net,

    is it me or are today's china players weak at net compared to Zhao and Yang Yang?

    Bao reminds me of Yang Yang in his early days and if he polishes up on his net and

    hardness of smash and mental strength at crucial finishing points it could be Yang

    Yang again!

    Seeing Taufik play Bao or Chen Hong is like watching Rudy Hartono or Liem Swie

    King battle Tang Xian Hu.

    Even Maria whats hername plays like Mia and Xie Xin Fang . The indonesians strike

    me as very creative in strokeplay, but the find of the year must be China' s Cai Yun,

    another Li Yong Bo or Park Joo Bong!

    The newer batch are even more exciting to watch!
     
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    glad you guys got to see the TV coverage. what i like about the Indonesia and the Korean WS is that their court movement seems to be much more fluid than the Chinese. i find that GongRN and Zhou Mi are slower in movement in comparison. notice that Maria is always taking the shot earlier than Zhou? the strange stroke, still cannot get over that. one thing that i notice is that i don't find any resemblance between Maria and Susi Susanti. last time around in SC 2001, i remember GongZC was playing against a really short Indonesia girl whose shots were closer to Susi. i wonder if Susi has a hand in Maria or not.

    i wonder if China's preference to taller and stronger players are starting to back fire. Taufik nor LeeHI are not especially tall nor big. but fast and versatile. and now we see Jun Jae Youn and Maria who are also small and fast in the court.

    and about Cai Yun, his performance in the semi was impressive indeed. but he completely lost the sharpness in the final against Lee/Yoo. slower, less power. dunno why.
     
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    I actually find the type of strokes played by Chen Hong, Zhou Mi, Huang Hua, Gong

    RN etc very strange, they seem to open up the racquet face and broadcast to their

    oponent where they intend to direct shuttle.Maybe it's done so fast with a twist of

    the wrist to surprise opponents. Indonesians tend to hide face of racquet and strike

    at last moment.Bao's strokes though are hard to see but to play people like Taufik,

    he has to keep attacking to prevent Taufik from trapping him, therefore it's only a

    matter of time before Taufik winds him. They sure don't play like Sun Jun in 1999

    anymore, the variety seems missing.
     
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    Saw the semi between Korea and Denmark too.

    Kim Dong Moon and Ra kyu Min were superb and I think

    re-inventing badminton. Denmark not too far behind,

    Esp people like JR and Erkson and partner.

    Peter Gade, Martin and Lee Hyun Il showed superb skills and accuracy

    the only problem with Gade isI think physical condition.
     
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    i find LeeHI's stroke the hardest to see. very little but amazing fast and powerful racket movement. similar to Dong Jiong.

    i also find that the latest generation of Chinese players are all rather bland. very nice and standard stroke, but i am not sure how good prettiness will lead them as their styles are not very creative and almost robot like.
     
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    I think the word is "explosuve" strokes.

    However they are prone to errors.that's why Dong Jiong on a bad day can make

    a lot of errors.Current Chinese styles appear very "safe",

    ie. "guide shuttle cleanly and accurately and perhaps

    can be good if done swiftly, but demands a lot on fitness.I think that's why Ch needs 3 games to finish off most opponents.

    Gade still uses a lot of "chops" and disguised movements.

    I think that's why players in other countries can play until they are

    well over 30.

    Is it possible to employ different styles and stokes against different opponents?
     

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