SimInvest Indonesia Open 2021(New dates) - 11/23/2021 to 11/28/2021- WT Super 1000

Hassefar60 said:
The reason is a muscle injury in the chest area. Even if the vaccine could cause chest "tightness" (I don't want to speculate), confusing that with a muscle injury should not be possible. He was advised by the doctors on the team not to play.
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Exactly. He is right-handed, so it's literally impossible to confuse "chest tightness around the heart" with an injury of the pecs (ludicrous in the first place, even more so for right-handers).
Please don't bring your personal brand of anti-scientific bs into badminton, guys...we can have all the controversy we want just discussing the sport alone :D
 
r1cky_b3cks said:
i think KM fitness level is quite worrying and may not come back to his best anymore. he barely smashed against LKY and yet he looks so tired towards the end. he didn’t up the pace too. in 2019, he can won back to back tournament easily without showing such fatigue. against much higher rank player in between. wonder what went wrong.
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His conditioning was set back several years by an unfortunate chain of events (car crash, COVID...), and it's even possible his VO2max/lung capacity was affected permanently.
I'd hesitate to count him out, if he can improve just slightly athletically and keep injury-free (keeping up consistent training), he might as well almost reach his previous peak.
 
evilster said:
gideon become front court player???
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I think he's tired as well :D but also, other pairs like to keep Kevin at the back because his smash isn't very dangerous and he can sometimes get frustrated when he doesn't get through with his attack
 
j4ckie said:
I think he's tired as well :D but also, other pairs like to keep Kevin at the back because his smash isn't very dangerous and he can sometimes get frustrated when he doesn't get through with his attack
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Yea, i do know that they like to keep kevin behind. but i am not sure the preferred layout now is it Sukamuljo back and Gideon front..
Hope they can win this.
 
OngTeo can look like the world beater beating ChiaSoh and ShettyRR in easy straights but look so tired when pushed to 3.

Still cant beat Minions, had their chance at 16-16.
 
evilster said:
Yea, i do know that they like to keep kevin behind. but i am not sure the preferred layout now is it Sukamuljo back and Gideon front..
Hope they can win this.
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Definitely isn't, they're far more dangerous in their usual formation.

They pulled through in the end, but were really made to work here...quite possible that they'll feel this tomorrow
 
Hassefar60 said:
The reason is a muscle injury in the chest area. Even if the vaccine could cause chest "tightness" (I don't want to speculate), confusing that with a muscle injury should not be possible. He was advised by the doctors on the team not to play.



Good question! I think there has been, but proper statistics would indeed be interesting. The cause would of course be the tight schedule, and possibly sub-optimal training period in 2020 and maybe large parts of 2021, and less "real match practice" (= tournaments).
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Would or could?

They have been through a few tournaments before these two Bali ones though. And they got considerable amount of rest before taking on these back to back ones.

Also is the schedule really that much tighter compared to before?
 
Quentin11 said:
Would or could?

They have been through a few tournaments before these two Bali ones though. And they got considerable amount of rest before taking on these back to back ones.

Also is the schedule really that much tighter compared to before?
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Erhm..yes? How can you even ask that question :o ? 7 tournaments in 8 weeks from TC/UC to WTF (including Hylo Open Super 500). I didn't even include Sudirman Cup ending 5 days before TC/UC. Or the single week of rest before WC! Of course there are many tournaments in the normal schedule as well but many are "skip-able". With the exception of Hylo Open, none of these are.

Yes, they got "considerable amount of rest" before taking on these 2 x 3 week back-to-back mandatory Super 750+ tournaments. You also take a considerable amount of rest before completing an Iron Man, but you are still exhausted a long time after.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of these players haven't been home since they left for Sudirman Cup over two months ago.
 
Yeah, just ask Momota or Axelsen or fit beast CTC whether they are tired. They are playing MS so prolly they are the fittest.
 
Feels like ShettyRR has become much slower pair. If i'm Minions id prefer playing them compare to MAS pair. just think MAS pair will win and likely reach the F
 
Sad to hear that Antonsen was injured thus needed to give a walkover and lost his chance to defend his WTF title. Rest well and speedy recovery. I’ll miss his Bali edition of vlog and podcast as well.

I can’t bear to watch Akane’s match. Still fighting awesomely but she’s dead tired. Get some good sleep and recover, warrior. Bigger chance for ASY.

Holy heck, I thought Ong/Teo could knock the stubborn Minions out so they finally will have some rest. Dude, you two awfully need some serious rest. Unlike some of other players who wisely skip some tournaments and didn’t have some sort of obligation for WTF qualification, you two didn’t.

If Gideon plays more at the front, that’s basically an announcement that he’s not in a good form. Just like in the Thomas, Herry IP said that Marcus’ legs were ‘having problems’ and was tired so he put him at the front and put (injured) Kevin on the back. Somehow it works. But humans have limits.

Also, Hafiz and Gloria declined the invitation to the BWC not because they would be separated. I saw INA fans were talking about it and they said that Hafiz's wife will give birth to their first child around the BWC date. He wants to be there for her.
 
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I think Loh Kean Yew will win this tournament and maybe even many more tournaments after this. Viktor Axelsen made a mistake asking him to train together,just created a new rival.

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