Promising Star Chen Jin Wins the Champion

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  1. yannie

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    Reported by Netease Sports Channel, March 12, 2006 Beijing time, from Chengdu.

    Undoubtedly, men’s singles final is most likely to catch most people's eyes today. And this match ultimately ends in Chinese young Chen Jin’s victory of 2-0(21-19,21-14) over Danish notable player Peter Gade.

    Chen Jin has amazing performance for all matches during 2006 China Masters Cup. After drawing a bye in the first round, he defeated Thailand’s famed Boonsak Ponsana and eliminated Malaysia’s noted Muhd Hafiz B HASHIM and Danish Kenneth Jonassen in the next two days which has brightened everyone’s eyes in surprise. On the other hand, Peter Gade washed out two Chinese players around-the-clock in order to get promoted. After a tough match with Chen Yu, this veteran who is 30 years old fought hard against world no.1 Lin Dan in the semifinal. And in the last minute, stable performance grants Gade the ultimate victory for this breathtaking match. The latest battle between Chen Jin and Gade was held in England Tournaments this January and Gade was the winner. From then on Chen Jin keeps in good form especially after winning the championship in Germany Tournament. And Chen Jin has been rated the most promising youngster who is most likely to participate in Thomas Cup held this year in the star-studded Chinese squad.

    Since the game begins, Chen Jin tries his best to suppress Gade in vigour and leads by 2-0 basing on his positive offense. But shortly Gade acclimatizes himself to the pace and keeps hitting the ball to Chen’s side boundary lines.Gade’s tactic works well which results in Chen Jin’s misses. Then Gade surpasses Chen Jin at 7-3. After that Gade moves and hits actively and gets the match under control. Before long Gade brings the game to the break with his leading of 11-6.

    After the break Chen Jin makes some tactical changes in time and adds more hairpin shots. On the contrary, Gade seems to keep a slack hand and could not follow Chen Jin’s pace. Chen Jin takes the chance to catch up to 13-14 after he is left 5 points behind. Then the tougher game falls into rubber condition, but soon Chen Jin manages to bring the game to 16-16 and continue to rob 4 more points in a row. Just when Chen Jin wins the game point, Gade bucks up and makes consecutive 3 points by rushing. However, the key point belongs to Chen Jin in the end and he seals the first game at 21-19.

    Both sides continue to fight hard in the second game. Chen Jin exerts his rapid but fierce technique very well while Gade performs his unique backhand drop shots deception combined with sudden leaping kills sufficiently. The score once became 7-7. Just the same as the first game, it is Gade who is more experienced brings the game to the break by leading at 11-9. After the competition starts over again, Chen Jin keeps his tactic of speeding up and casting ferocious attack. Gade gradually runs out of energy when facing Chen Jin’s powerful offense, he moves in lower speed and the placements are no longer as precise as before. Young Chen Jin grasps the chance and hits consecutive overhead strokes. In this way, Chen Jin takes the lead with wide gap. Finally with a rush-up smash, Chen Jin knocks out Peter Gade by 21-14 and makes himself the Champion of men’s singles for 2006 China Masters Cup.

    This victory over Gade and the concomitant champion means that Chen Jin is mature for his technique as well as psychology. We are certain that this 20-year-old youngster will provide us more shock factors in the near future.(by 旺旺)
     
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    Congrats to CJ! :D
     
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    Congrats to Yannie!:D :D :D
     
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    :mad: Fake Champion !!!!!
    He is the Champion made from the cheating China line judges.

    I was supporting him at the beggining (of cause... I am a chinese too). But after that cheating game point, It made me support Pete Gade then.

    The shuttle was very clear "in", and you can see the face of CJ was very fed up at the moment (cause he reliased the shuttle was in). But when the cheating china line judge calls "out" CJ suddenly changed his face and went to his pack immediately for court changing.
    What a big loser action !!!! :D

    As Peter Gade said to the media, that point could be the deciding point of the match.

    I hope from now on, no more top players go to China for competition. No use... you can't win them in China.

    Even I am a Chinese, but I feel shame of you ..... China !!!!
     
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    Congrats to CJ!
     
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    in reality, there isn't much CJ could do. In every match i watched, xzx vs ahn, boonsak vs CJ, PG vs CJ, China vs germany in MD, LD vs PG, there were some bad calls in favor of chinese side. Intentionally or not , i dunno. In all those cases those, i feel the bad calls wouldn't have changed the match results. As for the MS final, mentally it might had disturbed PG but CJ was giving it to PG in the second game. If PG won the 1st game, i think the rubber would had gone to CJ as PG seem to slow down in the latter part of the 2nd game.

    I do feel that a 6* event like china master shoulda have qualified or international empires and linesman.
     
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    For those chinese line judges. there are always rooms for improvment!:mad:
    But we couldn't deny. CJ did played very well on that match!
     
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    I thnk there is another thread on this, but take it easy, man. This is one very serious concern and the chinese players and officials must do something about this. I am Indonesian and if I am ever good enough to play for Indonesia (this will never happen though) and if in Indonesia Open, line judges cheat for my sake, I will definitely complain to the officials afterwards. Not only is this unsatisfying for me, but I also feel sorry for my opponent and angry with the line judges. Everybody loses! I hope in time to come there will be some pressure applied on organisers to make sure this doesn't happen again. But as in all sports, I don't think this will be the last time we see something like this.
     
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    I agree, the linesman are terrible and made some really bad call. But you can't really say Cj is not a champion. When I watch the match, I would still say that Cj was the better player.



     
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    Well, not only in this forum. But in the China Badminton Forum, those china people also blame on CJ and the linesman.
    Even they are China people, they also said CJ has not gentlement enough, not a sporting and as a top/high level player style. They said CJ should learn from their Ping Pong (table tennis) player, when a linesman made missjudges, the player will recall back. That is what we call sport .....

    Also at that match between CJ & PG, we can see PG not in his form as against LD in semifinals. I believe PG can beat CJ anyway. After the cheating call from linesman, PG seemed not in the play mood. That made him lost the match of cause.

    PG should be the champion !!!!!
     
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    In the first game there's also a play where the shuttle landed on the line at PG's back court and the linejudge called "out". Ref's are human beings and they make mistakes. I have to say I was also disappointed about the bad call and didn't finish watching the 2 game 'cause PG seemed not in the right mood. But, you cannot simply say, ok, CJ doesn't deserve the champ. I like PG a lot and feel sorry for him too. Just get over it and move on.

     
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    Do you think it's in or out

    The linejudge cry: "out!" And then give one point to Gade. I think the linejudge are just noprofessional.
     

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    Gade lead Chen by 7:3
     

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    Mr Alloh, how can you criticized Chen Jin is the Fake Champion just because of you also can't sure the shuttercok is in or out?
    We were on the TV screen and the linesman was on the spot, he/she who are the one can see clearly the shuttercock is in or out!
    Eventhough if that point is really a misjudgment by linesman, you also can't because of this and determined Chen Jin is the Fake Champion.

    In 2005 Malaysia Open, there is also some disputes about the linesman misjudgment happened during the men's single final within Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan, so will you say Lee Chong Wei is the Fake Champion?

    We as supporter or viewer, we knew that Chen Jin is played well than Peter Gade in that final game. This is the FACT but not the FAKE!!!

    I am not said i am support the linesman if he/she really make a deceive on that judgment BUT we are not on the spot, we can't see clearly whether the shuttercock is in or out! That's why we can't judge people as Fake Champion because of that!
     
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    OK OK .... Sorry to all of you.
    Viva Chen Jin ~!
     
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    It's true that overall Chen Jin did play better than Peter Gade due to the fact that Gade was exhausted after a tiring semi-final game against Lin Dan that went to three sets. But I think the bad line call for Gade, assuming it was infact in, had a stronger psychological effect on both players than the bad call against Chen since it was a deciding point for that set and the other point was during the middle of the set because usually a player do not panick or fight harder unless the end of the set was coming. If Gade had won the first set, it would be a major confidence boost for him and he would have had a really good chance to grab the title.

    I was a little disappointed that Gade did not fight as hard towards the end of the 2nd set as he usually does. I read on his website that he said he wasn't too focused about this tournament as he was entering in. I think the satisfaction of beating his nemesis, Lin Dan, is more than a great "prize" for him in this tournament.

    A few people had pointed out that Chen Jin's facial expression showed that he saw the bird landed in but did not challenge the call since it was made in his favor. I hope that isn't true because then his sportmanship is not good at all. I just read that in the 2005 Malaysian Open game against Fu/Cai, Candra challenge the line call even when it was in his favor because he thought it was out. Now Candra is top in my book for best sportmanship. I doubt Peter Gade, who usually has good sportmanship, would do this.

    But yeah, it seems like the controversial line calls were not only present in the men's singles final match but also in the match of Xie Xangfang vs Mia Audina. Also, I agree that for a 6* event, it was not very organized this time around since there a really strong draft (strongest I've ever witness in any tournament) that affected the flight of the shuttles.
     
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    CJ still young .... everybody would like to become the champion at his age.
    Emmm... maybe need more time for CJ to learn the sportmanship like the veteran.
    On my opinion, CJ shouldn't show his face changing immediately after the linesman called OUT. That's made people feel the lack of sportmanship on him. Maybe just show innocence would be better?
     
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    I don't quite agree. The player himself might NOT have the best view angle / timing to judge a close line call. They put most of their effort on the opponent, but not just taking a chance to always look backward and hope the shuttle is out.

    It's very natural, a player feels bad initially, as he thinks the shuttle is in, as it takes time for him to turn back, and look down. The lineman has the best view (otherwise, why we need line judges?). It's normal a shuttle had a quick low bounce, which result a different landing position/angle. Therefore, judge whether a shuttle is in or out by a TV camera or player, is simply not accurate. Unless the shuttle is clearly in or out like a significant distance.

    Also, I don't see why player shows expression change means "no sportsmanship". Like again, this is a close call, and the player can only listen to the line judge. The player might initially think he lost the rally due to his own view (could be WRONG!), then, the line judge is doing the job (be it in a right way or wrong way), and make a decision. The result is favor the player, why can't he feel better now?

    Let me give u an example. I was playing American football in HS. During a game, my team was down at the very last seconds. In desperation, our quarterback threw a long pass toward the end zone, and it was intercepted at the 1 yard line. I was right next to him, and I could see tears in his eyes, kneeing on ground. Then, the refree ruled the play as "passing interference" (the replay shows opponent defender clearly knocked down 1 of our WR in play on purpose, during the play). So, we got the ball back @ 1 yard line with enough time to kick a field goal to win it. With the ruling, you can see the quarterback bumping his chest, jumping in joy, even still with tears in his eyes, as we running toward 1 yard line to set up the winning field goal. This example shows the following:

    1. With bad view angle, the player could be wrong.

    2. The player feel very bad, if he thinks he's losing, even though, all these is purely on his wrong observation.

    3. The ref/judge has a better view angle, as it's their job. The players put 99% of their effort in the play/opponent, but not overview of the game.

    4. Once a judgement call favors your side, you will feel happy. Especially if this is the decision point, and you initial feeling (wrong) was the other way around.
     
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    Of course we are all happy for Chen Jin, he won a major tournament last week but i feel so sorry for peter gade, mia audina .. i wondered if i was them how would i react ?! You just think about winning but when you have to face the most unfair thing in sport (cheating), you don't know what to do, you want to win but you have firstly to face a wall ...

    I'm sure there is always intentional mistakes .. but here when i was watching those matches i wondered "did they put some blind guy ?!". I'm one of the biggest fan of china therefore you can understand that i was really disappointed =/
    ... so i kinda agree with alloh .. he's not totally wrong
     
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    Ok, 1st, I am trying NOT to take any side at this moment. If ppl fellow my posts for years, they should know I am a fan for PG / Mia as well, and totally respect his/her game.

    Ok, this time, PG and Mia are more on the victim side. Ok, this time, some critical line calls are more obvious than others. Ok, the match is held in CHN, and the CHN players are the winners. Ok, it might be obvious 1 or 2 line judges did get screwed in their head, and made some wrong decisions.

    However...

    In my previous posts, I did metion the following:

    1. All the favorable (or not) calls and/or other factors are parts of the game. If you want to be the true champion, you have to be well prepared to all the issue. There's no ideal situation for everyone each single time. If you don't have strong mentality to overcome all the "unexpected", though luck.

    2. Can any single pro (including our victim PG, Mia, etc) ever claim, they NEVER EVER received any favorable calls in their life time? Not even in their own nations? Of course, they did, many times could be. So, where were they when they "screw up" others? Of course, this is human nature. Once we are on the winning side, everything is ok ok, Once we lose, more or less, everyone will have a bit "taste in the mouth", and once it reached the boiling point, we blast...

    3. Refer to #2, many people can argue, "but this time, the call is more obvious than others..." Well, if you make a mistake, it's a mistake. You stole $2,000,000, you are an out-law. If you ONLY stole $20, does NOT necessarily make you a better person. Therefore, a mis-judged line call of 3 inches, is not better or worse than the ones of 3mm.

    4. Personally, I never encourage cheating or stuff. And I am NOT here to defend the line judges, be the mistakes are intentional or not. All I am saying is, instead of baby crying, pack the bags, go back to the gym, and train harder. If you are the true champion material, you will shine sooner or later. ;)
     

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