Cooler, you need to be a real fan Are you saying a non-clairvoyant person can't tell if his/her opponent is ready to receive serve? The Chinese player, without putting their hand up, adjusts their stance to receive, ready their racket to receive, then looks at server to receive--then when server is about to serve, they put their hand up. Cooler, please make sense. You're being too defensive. It's hard to defend something that's obviously wrong to any person with common sense--you'll end up getting all twisted inside and spouting a lot of gibberish. If I were you, a supporter of the Chinese team, I'd try to tell them that the rest of the world is on to their tactics and they should just quit doing them. It's not too late. You're not a real fan if you'll let your favorite sports figures deteriorate into caricatures of their former selves. You'll do your best to get your favorite stars to be the best that they can be and not rationalize their behavior when they're doing something that'll just harm their reputation.
Our current Badminton Laws do need some modifications . Isn't it strange that at the start of the very first rally of a game, the umpire says "Love-All, Play". And the players start with their action/motion. But during the start of later rallies, the umpire allows players to chose whether they are ready or not. Yes, our current Badminton Laws do need some modifications. .
I am sorry for you to interpret this way, not my problem. The player-receiver raise hand to indicate when they are not ready. Raising their hand consistently during the match is fine, according to you if the player is non Chinese, like what Mia did to Zhang Ning. But if the player is Chinese then is was trained to cheat. Furthermore, if the umpire allowed is because it is legal. How that is crooked? Or are you implying the umpire was crooked? You are welcome to continue bashing the China team. When we check the results a few years later we can only see the results, not the details of the match.
Aren't the players - server and receiver supposed to be ready after the umpire calls the score? Maybe not only rules, but also umpires...
Don't be pathetic... What he described was clearly bad sportsmanship. Taking advantage of the rules. Sure it may not be technically illegal, but that's a problem. It should be. If the receiver makes out that they're ready, they should not be able to suddenly change their minds to break their opponents rhythm and concentration. Just like when a server starts their service motion, they have to go through with it (I believe there's a rule for something like that?), I think the same should apply to the receiver. It kind of sounds like that with the whole delay thing, but the rules could be more specific... It's not just professional players that do it, I've played people in tournaments that do it nearly every point, and I end up serving over their heads. I end up apologizing the first few times (thinking they're genuinely not ready), but then it gets seriously irritating when I realise what they're doing... Yes, the umpires need to be more strict on delay tactics.
1. u keep rehashing the same old argument by betting about a person's readiness based on physical hints. Sure a non-clairvoyant person can guess a person's readiness/intention....sometime. Note that i used the word 'guess'. Guessing it right rely on experience and more often by chance. Since u r so certain about SXW readiness, r u an experienced WS player yourself or are u betting your accusation by chance? I still 'guess' u r the holy one should apply for sainthood 2. i can tell u that u had 'misread' me. I was trying to be 'offensive'. It is not my call to tell CHN team what to do or not do. I follow the rules, so do the china team. If u dont like the rules, petition it to bwf to have it change and have bwf clearly spell out what makes a player being ready. I think the rules right now is pretty good. 3. hahaha, i hardly knew of or support SXW. (i had to consult a bf member here just to help me PAW between SXW and XW) Looking at 07 HKO, at match point, second serve attempt, lcw was serving while LD had his hand up the whole time. LOL. nokh88 see it as another chinese disruptive tactic but i see it as lcw being a nervous wreck, a weakness that have been documented by pemuda and as well as in malaysia NST. If a player is rushing his/her serve, can that also be considered disruptive too? Was LCW trying to pull a fast one?
You mean like in volleyball? 12.4.4 The server must hit the ball within 8 seconds after the first referee whistles for service. USAV 12.4.4: For 14-and-under age groups: a. The server must contact the ball within 5 sec- onds after the fi rst referee whistles for service. b. If the ball, after having been tossed or released by the server, lands without touching the player, it is considered a service tossing error. c. After a service tossing error, the referee must authorize the service again (re-serve) and the server must execute it within the next 5 seconds. d. One service tossing error is permitted for each service. 12.4.5 A service executed before the referee’s whistle is cancelled and repeated. USAV 12.4.5: After the whistle for the service, no other actions (requests for line-up check, time-out, substitu- tion, etc.) may be considered until after the ball has been served and the rally completed. This is true even if a request has been made after a server has initiated service action and legally permitted the ball to fall to the fl oor. A re-serve is consid- ered to be part of a single effort to serve and must be completed before any requests may be considered.
i'm innocent, it was Athelete1234 who drag lin dan into this thread. Pjswift and nokh88 exploited on it further. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1204312&postcount=23 http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1204402&postcount=33
without quoting anyone,u posted this post in this thread u are not replying either one of them right?
best policy is to start with small amount and increase dosage until pain disappear. Since u r pacing fast to my post count, u need to some sedative to slow down as well. How about a combination of oxycontin + demerol + propofol to start thing off???
cooler, you're going too far with this. Readiness is not physical state? In all my years of playing badminton, I must have made half my serves while my opponent was not ready (I thought he was ready, but obviously I couldn't have read his mind). I was watching the epic Wimbledon finals yesterday, and my goodness, how did Federer know Roddick was ready when he served? Federer just served and lo and behold, Roddick was ACTUALLY ready. Federer is a mind-reader. Roddick is, too. If I am mentally ready for the exam (did all my studies), I still need to be physically at the exam hall. The mental readiness comes first and then you start readying yourself physically. It seems an obvious thing to say, but I guess people see signs of readiness in another person's physical stance.
Hi Limsy, You said no one is Anti-Cooler but did you notice that in this thread, it's "mighty" Cooler vs The Rest Of The World, Reminds me of the 70s before CHN was admitted to BWF. They (IBF) wanted to organise a tournament between "mighty" CHN vs The Rest of the world. Those days, CHN had a lot of supporters but sadly now most are against them except a few like Cooler and of course the China Chinese. Hopefully, on another issue, we may agree with this interesting poor fellow.
initially I thought why are you mentioning 2 'Ma Jin (MJ). Afterwards only I realized you are talking about Michael Jackson (MJ)
Glad that you remember me now. I am not from China, I am from a country with 3 main races The reason I am supporting China is so simple, because there is no reason for me not to support China
