Malaysia Open 2007 - Day 6 - FINALS

zqloy said:
I think KKK is alright. Both of them nvr stop motivating each other. TBH to my surprise his defense improved alot and even able to change the rhythm of the shots often. But KKK is very dominant at the net and a good lead player. Hard to say who is better.

Yep, that's what I thought too, TBH's defence is rock solid this time, compared to Japan Open (Razif/Jalani are still better, though). KKK has better focus and stopped playing fancy shots, that too contributed to their success.

Spare a thought to Tony/Candra too, they contributed to making this a very high quality match. Beats the Asian Games matches hands down. We hope to see them again at least until Beijing Olympics.

When you play like this, the audience always appreciates whether you win or lose.
 
abedeng said:
Yep, that's what I thought too, TBH's defence is rock solid this time, compared to Japan Open (Razif/Jalani are still better, though). KKK has better focus and stopped playing fancy shots, that too contributed to their success.

Spare a thought to Tony/Candra too, they contributed to making this a very high quality match. Beats the Asian Games matches hands down. We hope to see them again at least until Beijing Olympics.

When you play like this, the audience always appreciates whether you win or lose.

i totally agree with that. plus i did say they complement each other. i just thought that brownie (that's my nick for TBH) played a very mature game for a 19 year old so i said he is the better player. dia not mean that cookie not good at all. relative comparison for that game only.
 
Favourite Sons..

haifeng4ever said:
All I can say is TBH will definetely Rexy favourite son(not KKK), that's why Rexy insisted TBH to sit beside him on the plane during Thomas Cup, and then TBH face will like "Sit with a coach,huh?"Rexy picked TBH instead of the more experienced LWF/Fairuz during Thomas Cup, this shows how much Rexy likes TBH.
KKK said "pls let me leave.. im rushing for aeroplane to korea.. i haven even pack my baggage yet.. the aeroplane is not going to wait me.. then pouted again". Oh, KKK will simply so cute and funny. Make his preparation in the last minute. What is he up to? :D :D :D

First of all, congratulations to the winners!
I agree that Boon Heong is Rexy's favourite son. I think at one point I heard him telling Boon Heong " not to give up and have more confidence, fight fight fight". I think Boon Heong was a little shaken by the Tony/Candra. Each time Boon Heong wins a match, he will look at Rexy first! It was simply a beautiful thing.

I knew it wouldn't be easy for Tony/Candra to win cos kkk/tbh plays like amoeba. Their tactics were unexpected and they were fast. They also aim their shots only to Candra, one tecnique which was already planned.

I can't wait for the Korean Open. Think Malaysia is grooming a lot of new doubles pair.

Meow Choo is not match to Zhulin, and it was obvious if you see they way both of them play in other matches.

Can someone tell me if Korean Open will be aired live? Or can I watch online?
 
Ya,they are a great pair but they still need a lot of improvement.Lets us just wait and see as rexy said he would only say KKK/TBH the best pair when they win the olympic gold medal next year.I just hope they can continue improving coz the talented players like both of them are really needed in badminton sports.Finally,don't just prasing them and we must also remember the most important person-Rexy.Without him,they will never have a good results.
 
Dimduo_81 said:
First of all, congratulations to the winners!
I agree that Boon Heong is Rexy's favourite son. I think at one point I heard him telling Boon Heong " not to give up and have more confidence, fight fight fight". I think Boon Heong was a little shaken by the Tony/Candra. Each time Boon Heong wins a match, he will look at Rexy first! It was simply a beautiful thing.

... which means that given the right training, TBH could become the most talented doubles player of his generation, instead of KKK?

But I do hope to see the coming-of-age of TBH a couple of years down the road. What if Rexy quit Malaysia team by then?
 
Dimduo_81 said:
Meow Choo is not match to Zhulin, and it was obvious if you see they way both of them play in other matches.

Agreed. I think it is because Mew Choo does not have a strong 'smash' weapon (no strength). Her tools comprising of long rallies, trick drop shots, and good placements are good but are never going to hurt Zhulin or Zhang Ning in any big way. And this was capitalised on by Zhulin.

I think it will be hard for her to beat stronger opponents like Zhulin or Zhang Ning, who have stronger smashes than hers. She needs to work the shuttle faster and play better net shots. And also go for body plays to win quick points. Long rallies with Zhulin can let her down -- coz most times it ended with Zhulin winning a smash or an acute drop shot.
 
zqloy said:
I think KKK is alright. Both of them nvr stop motivating each other. TBH to my surprise his defense improved alot and even able to change the rhythm of the shots often. But KKK is very dominant at the net and a good lead player. Hard to say who is better.
Well,i don't think we need to discuss and comparing who is better between two of them here.:p In my opinion, both of them are equally good coz without each other,they won't win the match.Doubles game is cooperate between two player and we are not fair to say who is better in the game.;) Each of them depends on each other to win the game.
 
I watched the matches LIVE at the stadium for the semi final and final yesterday. The MD was excellent and both KK and TBH shown good spirite and you can see they were motivating each other during the games. I have never seen our players doing this for too long!!

It was pretty usual to see TG/CW lost in straight set.I would like to see KKK/TBH can have re-match with them in the coming Korean Open and prove me wrong....
 
DinkAlot said:
Changing of the guard? Birth of new superstars? I think a few of you are begin too dramatic. Congrats to KKK and TBH but it's only one tourney.

Let's see if KKK and TBH can win a few more before these crazy declarations. :p

You are absolutely right! Being M'sian I always support our own players and pround of their achievements. It is too early to crown the 2 young lads with only 2 titles in hands. Ricky must bring them back to ground and continue to improve their games. I still feel that KKK/TBH still lacking of power in their smashes unlike Kido/Setiawan, Cheah Soon Kiat and Ricky and Rexy. No doubt they are fast especially KKK in front of the net...
 
Well done ZB/GL they are a good combination :rolleyes: Well done PG as well the "food poinsoning" :D made him stronger :p just joking ;)
I'm suprised Candra/Tony lost, but I haven't read the thread about them so :rolleyes:
 
hcyong said:
MS:
Peter Gade mostly in control. Sharp as ever. No sign of headache. He was the second most ecstatic winner of the day, closely matching KKK/TBH. He even threw his racquet into the crowd. During the match, I think he got a slight majority of support from the crowd. (Of course, the Chinese usually have good support in Malaysia, although that has waned due considerably to Li Yongbo, I think.) I was emotionally supporting Peter as well because of his near-miraculous performance after hospitalisation, and also because I feel bad for Chen Hong (who I think would be a bigger foe for Peter to handle) for allegedly being sidelined for the sake of Chinese strategy once again.

MD:
By far the best match of the day, as expected. The match was reminiscent of the SF between the Malaysians and Markis/Hendra. Even the scoreline was the same if I am not mistaken. I thought that Tony/Candra would try to slow down the game, but the match was mostly to see who was faster. And the Malaysians were faster more times than not. Both pairs played very well. The rallies were mostly very exciting and high-tempo. A lot of the game occured at the net. KKK as usual likes to rush things at the net, and TBH proved to be very good at the net also. Tony who is used to controlling the net, marginally lost the net battle. Candra proved to be the weakest among the four, making more unforced errors than usual. KKK made the customary amount of errors due to his habit of rushing the shots (a habit which also wins points). For me, TBH was the revelation. He controlled the game even better than master Tony. His strokes were cool and composed. He knew the best shot before he executed it well. My fellow traveller from Singapore, Nicky (ex-Vietnamese national player who accompanied Loh and me to KL) mentioned that if Tony were to partner TBH, the match would be over very quickly, and I agree. At the end of the second game, after KKK/TBH have opened up a big lead, Tony/Candra staged a comeback, probably due to desperation and also the Malaysians' nervousness. But in the point-a-rally system, once KKK/TBH got one or two more points, it was practically over.

KKK/TBH performed superbly yesterday. Tony/Candra can't match up with them in terms of speed although they still played wonderfully. They took the loss in their stride and certainly won the respect of the crowd. Just hope that KKK/TBH can maintain their winning streak in KO and there are more thrilling matches to come. At the same time, I am disappointed with the Chinese team. There had been a number of occasions that a walkover was conceded at the semifinal stage when there was a all Chinese encounter. It happened during the World Junior WS semifinal in 2004 as well as a number of semifinal or final that involved their WD in a few open tourneys two/three years back and the latest one was Chen Hong-Bao CL match. I just read in the Chinese website that Chen Hong is going to compete in the Korea Open, what a "surprise"! I really feel bad for this guy.
 
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rwchen said:
KKK/TBH performed superbly yesterday. Tony/Candra can't match up with them in terms of speed although they still played wonderfully. They took the loss in their stride and certainly won the respect of the crowd. Just hope that KKK/TBH can maintain their winning streak in KO and there are more thrilling matches to come. At the same time, I am disappointed with the Chinese team. There had been a number of occasions that a walkover was conceded at the semifinal stage when there was a all Chinese encounter. It happened during the World Junior WS semifinal in 2004 as well as a number of semifinal or final that involve their WD in a few open tourneys two/three years back and the latest one was Chen Hong-Bao CL match. I just read in the Chinese website that Chen Hong is going to compete in the Korea Open, what a "surprise"!

Typical Chinese "kiasu" strategy but ended up BCL didn't capture the title too. In fact the dennish shown tremendous sportmanship, Peter was dragged for 3 sets before beating Kenneth. Thomas L could have asked either Peter or Kenneth to be"injured" too and conserves energy for the final. Everyone knows Peter was having touble with his health. Peter is the true champion and same goes to the Thomas L!
 
budich said:
i can't wait to see cg/tw thrash kkk/tbh this afternoon.
rexy's mouth should be shut as he, himself are not better compared to cw or tg !! even though, he works for malaysia but he needs to speak based on true fact not just talking nonsense to make malaysia media delight

Instead of Rexy's mouth being shut I think the results have shut your mouth up, right?
 
X Ball said:
Agreed. I think it is because Mew Choo does not have a strong 'smash' weapon (no strength). ..........

Yes I would say you have read the situation accurately. Mew Choo's offensive weapons are few and far between, and the ones she have are all very weak. For her height she has surprisingly flawed footwork. She cant seem to be able to get to her opponent's drop and net shots in time.
As she is not physically strong, I am of the opinion that she should learn and master the half smash from the master, Misbun Sidek! Now if only she can get Morten Frost to teach her footwork!
 
Speed & Power said:
The Malaysians have a special place in the history of badminton, from winning the first Thomas Cup to producing all-time legends like Eddy Choong and many other memorable achievements. They(M'sians) simply love their badminton just like how the Brazillians love their football. Badminton to most Malaysians is more than a game, it is a source of national pride & honor b'coz of the history of the game in that country. To my understanding, Malsysians are some of the most passionate badminton fans in the world. So, any kind of +ve result would chalk up a carnival atmosphere!

Yikes! How can you not mention that the greatest singles player Malaysia has ever produced is the Maestro, Wong Peng Soon! His nemesis was Dr. Dave Freeman, America's finest player till date.
 
Speed & Power said:
I remembered those days when Hafiz Hashim was doin well, like winning the All-England, Swiss Open etc....He was good for that few months & now just look at him. Thats why im worried that KKK/Tbh might (im not ssaying they will) end up like him.

Your fears are unfounded. Try to read up a little more on Malaysian politics and you will realize that what happened to Hafiz is not gonna happen to TBH/HHH. Hafiz is bumiputera, TBH/KKK are Chinese! ;)
 
Wong Peng Soon and Dave Freeman: Brought our beloved Badminton in the limelight

bigmojo said:
Yikes! How can you not mention that the greatest singles player Malaysia has ever produced is the Maestro, Wong Peng Soon! His nemesis was Dr. Dave Freeman, America's finest player till date.
Hi bigmojo,

I am glad that you mentioned Wong Peng Soon and Dave Freeman.

We should thank these 2, and many others, who have brought our beloved Badminton in the limelight.

Cheers... chris@ccc
 
Jessica said:
Well,i don't think we need to discuss and comparing who is better between two of them here.:p In my opinion, both of them are equally good coz without each other,they won't win the match.Doubles game is cooperate between two player and we are not fair to say who is better in the game.;) Each of them depends on each other to win the game.

Ya, agree. If really want to compare who is better, u should not never watch double matches again. U should watch single match instead. For individual skills, they are not considered as the best double player yet, but I can say their combination is very powerful.
 
Inky2000 said:
Moreover, Cai/Fu was already an established, celebrated pair (and potential world champions by that time - and they actually made it a month later) when they beat Tony/Chandra last year while Koo/Tan had only played their third tournament as a pair. So, my question for academic interest: If Koo were to partner his old pal Chan this time round, could they even make it to final, not to mention beating Tony/Chandra?

Why not? Koo and Chan are capable of beating any top seed players. Just that they are not as consistent as the current pair KKK/TBH.
If Tony were to partner his Vietnamese pal from USA, could they always make it to the final?
 
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