Lin Dan ( 林丹 )

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  1. nokh88

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    They thought they are LD and speaking on behalf of him.
     
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    Let me make myself clear. If you've been following my argument on the topic of Lin Dan's complaint from the first related post to the latest, it'd immediately become obvious to you that his grouse is not on the service fault alone but that CHN players are unfairly treated or targeted or the tournament officials are stricter with Asian players, CHN in particular.

    And his protests and disputes involved not only service faults called against him but not called on his opponents but also bad linecalls not overruled by the umpire in cases where there weren't Hawk-Eye to arbitrate (even when the shuttle landed where the umpire was seated in some cases), the WSX red card incident and her general perception, etc, etc.

    Your point that Lin Dan doesn't have a leg to stand on complaining about someone else's serve presumably on the ground that his own serve is problematic simply does not hold water either, logically speaking.

    As to whether Lin Dan might be wrong in his accusations and suspecting anti-CHN conspiracy, that is for BWF to say since Lin Dan dared to make such a claim, he has to take responsibility for it if proven groundless.

    As I've said earlier, if you were Lin Dan, what'd you have done ? The fact that you chose to speak out publicly knowing the consequences, tells us something.

    Coming back to Lin Dan's so-called illegal serve - the rules are there, clearly stated. It is for the judges to interpret them correctly and implement them as best they could. A fault is a fault regardless whether it irritates his opponents, was unintentional on his part, offers him no advantage (then why do it and risk being faulted?), service judges don't take it critically, or not. No matter what, it is for the service judge to rule it impartially, without fear or favour; who cares about LD's "fanboys not accepting facts".
     
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    What talking you ? Lin Dan himself has spoken in no uncertain terms, and we are merely discussing it here, not speaking on his behalf at all. Isn't that what this forum is for ?
     
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    Isn't there a rule that it's not a fault, when the double action is habitual and not done intentionally to deceive the opponent?

    But JOJ has indeed complained about LD's flick serves at the Malaysia Open.
     
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    Jonatan Christie hails Idol Lin Dan

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    "My idols are Lin Dan and Taufik Hidayat. Taufik was a complete player,smart and Intelligent. Lin Dan is like Messi in Badminton. It may take 50 years to have players like them again."

    "If I could have a chat with Lin Dan,I want to ask him, how does he trains to be like that? What's the secret? I am amazed how he is in such a great condition despite his age."

    Jonatan Christie is also jealous of his teammates who had the oppurtunity to play against Lin Dan but he is still waiting for his oppurtunity.

    http://www.republika.co.id/berita/o...jonatan-christie-dan-pertanyaan-untuk-lin-dan
     
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    Fantastic player, definitely the one to watch out for in the future.
     
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    Let's really hope Lin dan will not be quarter final Singapore open Super Series out again like Malaysia open which i feel deeply upset..
     
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    It probably will be LD last Singapore Open, he will win it.
     
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    Lin Dan's game now is without much aggression and power-play, and Lin Dan nowadays relies solely on his past experiences to outsmart his opponents by brilliant strokes, but that can only be good enough against players not in the top 20 rankings. Any experience players who can match Lin Dan strokes for strokes will find Lin Dan very much beatable. Lin Dan's opponents do not need to have strong defence against him, just need to be patient and be consistent in his game, any player in the top 20 ranking can beat Lin Dan.

    Lin Dan is now like a toothless and clawless tiger, no matter how much experience the tiger used to have in the past hunting its preys, it now cannot even kill another bigger prey without its tooth and claws all taken out despite the rich experiences it still has. Lin Dan if he decides to still refuse adding more power and aggression into his game by training very much harder in the next 3 months, he has not much of any chance to win this year's Olympics bronze medal, he can well forget the gold for now.
     
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    Sony is ranked 54 and has been absent for awhile.
     
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    I say, let's wait until the Olympics to see who will have the last laugh.

    For now, I can only say, there's more to it than meets the eye.
     
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    Maybe Xie Xingfang should be in coach seat from now on. Just kidding !

    The last time Sony played Lin Dan was 4 years ago. That was near the Olympic and since Lin Dan lost, many were thinking he will not win the Olympic gold, Sony was winning a tournament after almost a year injured and he did not qualify for the Olympic too.

    Dejavu ?
     
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    The main thing about Lin Dan losing to Sony in this year's Singapore Open was not about the result, but the game being played out by Lin Dan now. He simply refuse to throw in more aggression into his game now, not much smashes were thrown in to unsettle his opponent, just relying on strokes after strokes to win points. If his opponent is patient and experience enough to match stroke by stroke with Lin Dan like what Sony did on last Sat, it will be quite an easy game for his opponent as he doesn't need to worry about Lin Dan smashes, as it is almost non-existent. All his opponent needs is to wait for Lin Dan to make mistakes, either hitting the birdie out of bound or into the net, if not wait for Lin Dan to return 3/4 or 1/2 court returns and go for the easy kills. His opponents do not need to have an excellent defence, just have patient and consistency on hitting baseline clearance will probably be enough to beat the once unbeatable Super Dan.
     
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    LD you see prior to Olympic is only 80% of what LD is capable of. Real LD will be out of the cave in Olympic.
     
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    Like at the WC last year? Because people used to say the exact same thing prior to the WC 15.
     
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    There is also a lot of people saying he is going downhill.
     
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