I hope TH use the JO and china open as opportunities to regain his form for the upcoming asian game that he said he is really aiming for.
Dude, i dont think u r gettin the point there. Most of us here is not judging on how does LD looks on court, but wat he does to irritate his opponents. He refuse changing of shuttles, complaining bout his opponents to umpire, purposely hitting the shuttle to the back for PG to pick up.... etc.
Someting might be interesting for those who wants to know more of LD. Unfortunately it is in Chinese, would appreciate if anyone can tranlate the part in bold. Tks. From the report, I can see at least LD has true sportsmanship, respect his opponents, and do not brag. 林丹:故意失误为熟悉场地 再胜陶菲克誓言斩钉截铁 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://sports.sina.com.cn 2006年10月18日10:29 广州日报大洋网 “你觉得自己能在广州再次击败陶菲克吗？”“能！”作为本届中国羽毛球公开赛男单头号种子，林丹在男单首轮顺利过关后斩钉截铁地告诉记者。 故意失误以熟悉场地 林丹在第1轮的对手是日本队的中西洋介，21比17、21比15，林丹以2比0轻取对手，顺利晋级第2轮。这场较量并没有被安排在中心赛场，不过现场球迷都主动挪到离林丹最近的观众席上，近距离地观看这场本来毫无悬念的比赛。林丹尽管实力比对手高出一大截，但他始终没有拉开比分，出界落网这种失误也时而出现。无惊无险地击败对手后，林丹步出赛场，而中国男队主教练钟波追了出来，他叮嘱林丹回到酒店后一定要找个安静的地方加练力量。 说起比赛中出现的失误，林丹透露，其实他是带着一点“故意”的成分，因为他想趁着开赛之初适应一下场地。“赛场上的灯光等条件都还可以，就是地面有点滑。”前天晚上到达广州后，林丹只在昨天早上7时才第一次到天河体育馆作适应性训练。他告诉记者，由于场地有点滑，双打主力蔡赟也不慎摔了一跤。“我担心场地会对自己的发挥造成一定的影响，如果因为摔跤受伤而无缘亚运会或者其他大赛的话，那就有些可惜了。”除了这一点瑕疵外，林丹对这个已经在广州举办了5年的公开赛感到很亲切：“广州的球迷很热情，对我也很好，我也很希望能够在这里夺得男单冠军。” 希望成绩超过陶菲克 林丹与印尼名将陶菲克刚在日本公开赛决赛中相遇，结果林丹以2比1力克对手。陶菲克在抵达广州后罕见地公开称赞林丹，他在昨天的比赛中也顺利挺进第2轮。陶菲克依然心情大好，但在被记者问到他是否能够在中国公开赛中“复仇”时，他笑着摇头：“我不知道。”另一边，林丹则信心十足，当记者询问他认为自己能否再次击败陶菲克时，他坚毅地点了点头：“能！” 说起日本公开赛决赛，林丹认为陶菲克在决胜局中放弃比赛了，否则以两人的水平，不会打出21比3这样悬殊的比分。“我记得半场休息时我是以11比2领先的，陶菲克应该也知道，在21分制下如果落后10分，基本上就是无法挽回的，而我自己发挥得比较好，失误很少，所以最后赢得了比赛。”林丹表示，每个人都有不同的想法，所以他也不了解陶菲克当时是抱着何种心态放弃了那场决赛。至于他自己，则是属于不顾一切去争取胜利的人，所以他绝对不会因为大比分落后而主动选择放弃。 尽管已经在去年的美国世锦赛后连续3次击败陶菲克，但谦虚的林丹还是认为这不能说明自己的实力已经在陶菲克之上。“我和他都很年轻，以后交锋的机会多的是，我不会因为个别比赛的胜利就去判别谁更优秀。”林丹透露，他现在最看重的是在成绩上超越陶菲克，而不是在获胜次数上，“他现在拥有着奥运会冠军和世锦赛冠军两个重要的头衔，而我只有世锦赛和世界杯两个冠军，我还缺少一个分量最重的奥运会冠军，所以我正在努力地争取在2008年北京奥运会上实现夺冠的目标。” 亚运会上有三大对手 从马德里世锦赛归来，到出征上周的日本公开赛，林丹粗略数了数，期间只有10来天，他接下来还要征战益阳世界杯。如此频繁的参赛让他有点喘不过气来：“我会有选择性地放弃一些比赛，集中精力备战亚运会。”林丹透露，他很可能不参加下月初的丹麦公开赛，留在国内更好地调整状态。 林丹把亚运会看作今年下半年最重要的比赛，他觉得到时候主要的对手包括队友鲍春来、马来西亚队的头号男单李宗伟与印尼名将陶菲克。“(对手)主要就是他们3个吧，亚运会也不容易打。”在本届中国公开赛上，除了李宗伟外，其余两名主要对手都报名参赛，因此，林丹将把这个比赛看作亚运会的热身，他也预言，男单的比赛将因为激烈的竞争而异常精彩。“可能观众们看到丹麦队的皮特·盖德、马来西亚队的李宗伟和韩国队的李铉一都没有参赛，会觉得今年的比赛不会很精彩，其实我认为不是这样的，因为目前中国队其他男单选手进步得很快，他们的挑战给我们造成了一定的压力，我们之间的对决也会很激烈。” Basically, 1, LD is confident that he can defeat TH again in CO; 2, LD thinks in JO, TH gives it up in the rubber set when he is leading 11:2, and he has no idea why TH is doing like that. He understands that people has different philosophy; as for him, he will never stop fighting even if falling far behind; 3, Although he beats TH 3 times consecutively after WC2005, LD is still modest to say that these victories do not mean he is better than TH. He wishes to win more titles especially the Olympics Gold to exceed TH in achievements, not just how many times he beats TH. 4, Three main opponents for him in Doha this year would be: BCL, LCW and TH.
Another article from Antara News on Taufik's failure in JO ..here's another article...basically, the reason has been mentioned (gud knows how many)numerous times... so, indra, babonimut or anyone else, mind doing the honor of doing the translation for us all...thanks in advance- ==================================================== http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1678&Itemid=2 Sutiyoso: Saatnya Taufik Berubah Written by Antara News Wednesday, 18 October 2006 "...titik lemahnya dia itu ada di fisik..." Menyusul kegagalan pemain tunggal putra Indonesia Taufik Hidayat dalam turnamen Jepang Terbuka, Ketua Umum PB PBSI, Sutiyoso, menyatakan saatnya pemain andalan Indonesia itu berubah. Dalam sebuah acara yang berlangsung di Jakarta, Selasa malam, Sutiyoso menyatakan perubahan itu harus dilakukan melalui pembenahan kemampuan fisik yang memang selama ini selalu menjadi masalah utama Taufik Hidayat. "Saya tahu persis titik lemahnya dia itu ada di fisik. Kenapa?, karena kalau main hingga tiga set tidak pernah menang. Dia harus segera sadar kelemahan itu," katanya. Dalam partai final Jepang terbuka yang berlangsung Minggu (15/10) Taufik Hidayat kembali menyerah dari andalan China, Lin Dan, dalam pertarungan tiga set 16-21 21-16 21-3. Skor pada set ketiga dimana Taufik tertinggal jauh juga menjadi perhatian pria yang juga menjabat sebagai Gubernur DKI Jakarta tersebut. "Taufik sebenarnya unggul teknik, namun kalau sudah terkait fisik kan susah. Terbukti dari set penentuan dia tertinggal sedemikian jauh," tutur Sutiyoso. Sementara tentang pembenahan untuk sektor tunggal putra, PB PBSI telah melakukan pergantian pelatih yang menangani sejumlah pemain. "Untuk pelatih, Joko Supriyanto akan saya geser dan diganti oleh Hendrawan dan akan saya suruh melatih Simon dan Taufik, karena dua pemain itu belum ada kemajuan," tutur Sutiyoso. Pada Jepang terbuka, Indonesia hanya berhasil meraih gelar melalui ganda campuran Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa yang mengalahkan rekan senegaranya Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir. Dominasi China ditunjukkan dengan memenangi tunggal putra, tunggal putri dan ganda putri. Sementara ganda putera dimenangi oleh pasangan mantan pemain Indonesia Candra Wijaya/Tony Gunawan. (*)
Consider this... 1. LYB threatened to break LCW's legs in the WBC, Madrid. If LD had lost, what do you think LYB will do to him? Poverty is ubiquitous in China, it's a fact. With more than a billion people, it is bound to have big number of exceptional athletes earning their living mainly from competitions/tourneys. 2. School gals love TH back in his hometown. He's earned enough from the prize monies and has probably invested in some businesses back home. He is still determined to win as much as possible from the JO and so he fought all his way to the Finals. But the question..... ....why TH lost? In fact, the question could have been "Why LD lost?" Basically, these two exceptional players chat online over MSN and stay in touch with each other. Hey.. have you read the testimonials LD wrote for TH on friendster? Towards the end, both of them are unsure who will really and truly win. They think both are equally good but luck and physical condition at a particular time decide who actually will win. When they have come to such a point in their careers, there's really no point fighting each other anymore. They know they are the best and they are equal. So what else can these two best buddies concentrate on when win or lose is nothing anymore? Well....... You know how Chinese are - they are good entrepreneurs! One rainy night, while they were online chatting, LD proposed to TH to make quick bucks out from matches. He said to TH, "I'm now the star in Badminton and you've gone a little quiet these days. Let's make this final be my game and we start to commercialise on my name by making t-shirts, sports bags, mugs, caps, pens, fullscap papers, umbrellas, Lin Dan Fried Rice, what have you." Oh...LD also didn't want his head to be smashed by LYB. Attracted to the business proposal, TH instantly agreed. Is this a possible theory?
This is the most fantastic theory I've read so far , although I admire your rich imagination. Why not make a novel out of it and become best seller?
woodenracket: you sound like an entrepreneur too.. what's your msn? let's beat Dan Brown ! jk! Btw, reading back what I wrote really sounds like a synopsis of a fantastic bestseller at the back of the book. Not forgetting Woodenracket's first testimony.
..hehehe, just noticed the revised thread header....Looks like we'll be expecting another "W T L?" thread for the China Open..hehehe
Sutiyoso: Saatnya Taufik Berubah Written by Antara News Wednesday, 18 October 2006 "...titik lemahnya dia itu ada di fisik..." "Saya tahu persis titik lemahnya dia itu ada di fisik. Kenapa?, karena kalau main hingga tiga set tidak pernah menang. Dia harus segera sadar kelemahan itu," katanya. "I know the point of weakness is in its physical ability, why?, because if the game goes into 3 sets he never wins. He need to realise that weakness, " Said Sutiyoso (If im not mistaken TH did win the indo open beating Chen Yu in 3 sets, where he lost the 1st set. Great match btw) "Untuk pelatih, Joko Supriyanto akan saya geser dan diganti oleh Hendrawan dan akan saya suruh melatih Simon dan Taufik, karena dua pemain itu belum ada kemajuan," tutur Sutiyoso. " For training, Joko Supriyanto will be replaced by Hendrawan and he will train Simon and Taufik, because both player have no improvement," Said Sutiyoso. The rest of the article is not really important I think.
I hope so... sad... poor performances by Malaysians, I hope Taufik will deliver something different in China Open
Hitman71, thanks for doing the translation, eventhough partially(important or unimportant).. **BTW, it's interesting to read that Sutiyoso mentioned "Taufik as (one of the players) who hasn't shown any improvement(s)"..
There is an interview recently and could be of some interest in knowing more of LD and Taufik. http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2006-10-19/18482517079.shtml Part concerning Taufik: 新体：提到林丹的时候，必定会提到陶菲克，您有没有想过如果职业生涯中没有这样的一个对手的话，会是什么样子的？ 林丹：一个运动员优秀的价值就体现在遇见不同困难和强劲的对手的时候，都能够闯过去。应该说，正因为有了这些才有了现在的林丹、现在的我。所以有这么多的球迷们也才会喜欢我支持我。所以也不能够没有他们，没有他们，就不能体现我的价值。 新体：你私下和陶菲克的关系怎么样？见面呢？ 林丹：我们见面是不说话的，从来都不说。 新体：你感觉他这个人怎么样？ 林丹：因为我觉得每个人的性格和表达方式不一样，作为陶菲克来说，他认为自己是世锦赛和奥运会的双料冠军，所以，他很想向世人证明自己是世界上羽毛球男单最好的选手。但是，我这几年的表现来说，包括世界排名第一以及不久前取得世锦赛的冠军，所以他可能觉得目前两人在竞争世界第一，所以无论比赛还是赛前的新闻发布会，他总是会想去强调自己是最强的这一点，强调自己更好一些。 If you guys don't mind my poor translation: Sina: The name of Taufik will always be mentioned whenever speaking of LD. Do you ever imagine what will be if there is no such opponent in your career? LD: The true value of a good player lies in the capability to overcome kinds of difficulties and strong opponents. I should say that I could not be the LD today without them. That’s why I have the favor and support from a lot of fans. My value would be invisible without them (strong opponents). Sina: Personal relationship with Taufik? When you meet? LD: We never chat when we meet. Sina: what do you think of Taufik? LD: Different people have different personalities and way of expressions. Thinking himself to be WC and OG gold medalist, Taufik really wants to demonstrate he is the best MS player in the world. Yet seeing my achievements in the past few years including ranking one and the recent WC champion, he might feel at present it is two of us that are competing for the world number one. That’s why he always wants to emphasize that he is the best in the world and better (than me) either in the match or the press conference.
Because Chen Jin played better on the day. Can't Taufik lose Occasionally without having to have a big discussion about it? He's not the only good player in the world. In any sport the best teams or players lose from time to time, and sometimes it's just because their opponent plays well. Well done Chen Jin.
