Is BAM going in the right direction?

Thomas Cup/Uber 2022 just ended: my humble takeaways:
Despite losing to eventual winners.. Our men's team is in better shape than before, barely .. although it still looks like a Lee Chong Wei Thomas team all over again (where Only the MS will win any point in a quarter-final or semifinal setting)

But we do have depth in the MD .. even though I wondered why our gsf+ izzudin duo froze against India.. they are the better team i think (judging their performances up to our Japan encounter).

In the men's singles, herein lies our biggest problem no depth so far. Indonesia... Denmark .. Japan.. China .. and of course India all have super excellent players in their top 3 in this department.. we don't. If we don't rectify this... a Thomas cup final for Malaysia will not be in our lifetime

Uber Cup ... no change same old same old
 
pajrul said:
Thomas Cup/Uber 2022 just ended: my humble takeaways:
Despite losing to eventual winners.. Our men's team is in better shape than before, barely .. although it still looks like a Lee Chong Wei Thomas team all over again (where Only the MS will win any point in a quarter-final or semifinal setting)

But we do have depth in the MD .. even though I wondered why our gsf+ izzudin duo froze against India.. they are the better team i think (judging their performances up to our Japan encounter).

In the men's singles, herein lies our biggest problem no depth so far. Indonesia... Denmark .. Japan.. China .. and of course India all have super excellent players in their top 3 in this department.. we don't. If we don't rectify this... a Thomas cup final for Malaysia will not be in our lifetime

Uber Cup ... no change same old same old
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Actually, I would like to ask. Why do you expect GSF and izzudin to beat india. Remember India beat Ahsan and Kevin.

How do you define better shape?
 
Vestige117 said:
The tactics used by every MS except for Lee Zii Jia was simply idiotic at first glance.
You have three IND MS, each of their specialty is agressive-attacking play.
So, the tactics used was...rallying.
That's like pouring oil into a fire. Just playing rallies will not let the players get any point, far from it.
It was only delaying the inevitable. Just poor tactics and plan all the way through.
I want to see more attacking-play players just like Sen.
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Correct me if I am wrong. But i do not think Sen is an attacking kind.

And ASG is the kind that makes loads of mistakes. So in order to beat him, you must play a patient game in the first place.
 
Cheung said:
It goes both ways. Some will say like you but others will say send your best players to UC for the experience. Eventually you have to decide one or other but the consistent thing is, everyone will still criticise BAM. No win for BAM for this situation.
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The experience we are getting at the moment, or for the past 10 years, is losing, so much so that it is normal and ok to lose
 
congratulations to Malaysia Men's Team for grabbing Silver medal in SEA Games 2022...

Malaysia Men's Team players are the C team...
 
ong huigen said:
Actually, I would like to ask. Why do you expect GSF and izzudin to beat india. Remember India beat Ahsan and Kevin.


How do you define better shape?
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we have 3 top doubles team coming into the Thomas instead of 2

...its in the way they beat the Olympic gold medalist .. i thought they played excellent.. with tactics and strategy and not skills alone.. when facing the Indian team.. they did froze.. none of the brilliance they had with the Japanese's team. so i was disappointed.. i didn't expect them to win per se. i expected a better performance (and hence, hopefully win..)
btw . didn't the Indians beat the Indonesians .. after ?
 
pajrul said:
we have 3 top doubles team coming into the Thomas instead of 2

...its in the way they beat the Olympic gold medalist .. i thought they played excellent.. with tactics and strategy and not skills alone.. when facing the Indian team.. they did froze.. none of the brilliance they had with the Japanese's team. so i was disappointed.. i didn't expect them to win per se. i expected a better performance (and hence, hopefully win..)
btw . didn't the Indians beat the Indonesians .. after ?
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Most likely they froze when none of the tactic they're doing is working against the indians. Plus indians players are super highly motivated and very pump up on every single points they get, probably this causes both of them to be very nervous and unable to play on their usual tempo.
 
Cloudx said:
Most likely they froze when none of the tactic they're doing is working against the indians. Plus indians players are super highly motivated and very pump up on every single points they get, probably this causes both of them to be very nervous and unable to play on their usual tempo.
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i think you are right.. also so far .. they have nver beaten this indian team in previous encounters... so they need to overcome this mostly psychological problem
 
nokh88 said:
MAS didn't have enough good players for a team competition.

It was always one player team, first LCW and now LZJ.
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Yeah, however I think the current development is quite interesting. LZJ has gone independent thus making BAM to step up in grooming another top single player under BAM wing. If this is true then we will have maybe 2 good MS for MAS.
 
Cloudx said:
Yeah, however I think the current development is quite interesting. LZJ has gone independent thus making BAM to step up in grooming another top single player under BAM wing. If this is true then we will have maybe 2 good MS for MAS.
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If this happens..( it's not beyond reach) we'll have our Thomas cup team
 
Cloudx said:
Most likely they froze when none of the tactic they're doing is working against the indians. Plus indians players are super highly motivated and very pump up on every single points they get, probably this causes both of them to be very nervous and unable to play on their usual tempo.
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It wasn't the players fault. It was the coach. Rexy Mainaky outsmarted himself by fielding a pair that had a 1-5 record against the Indians. Rexy refused to use Wooi Yik.
 
Then yew sin/ee yi should have been selected as MD 1 if he doesn’t want to play wooi yik. I believe GSF and izzudin would be able to win the 2nd doubles
 
I heard GohVS/TWK are reuniting again for the world championship. They youngsters are still not able to catch up in terms of ranking although they are no longer playing together ‍♀️
 
Justafan90 said:
I heard GohVS/TWK are reuniting again for the world championship. They youngsters are still not able to catch up in terms of ranking although they are no longer playing together ‍♀️
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BWF froze ranking points due to COVID. That’s why Goh and Tan still got enough points.
 
our young players.. seem to be phenomenally mediocre. looks like its just lee zii jia and pearly&thinaah for the coming years.. and again no replacement in sight
Just look at the up & coming Thai (their 15 yr old girl just won the Denmark IC open), Indonesians, any other neighbor country... .and look at ours.
 
Is it because bam not giving lzj incentives after gold medal in commonwealth games? 2 weeks rest shd be sufficient to prepare for wc. Later cold or out early rounds. Any incentive in winning gold in cg? ;)
 
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