Err, not really. The team spirit preceded the Malaysia Boleh campaign by half a decade ...... it was the time when BAM leadership from top down was at its best, and willingness to invest in new coaching methods came into being.
INA Sudirman team has left Jakarta to Guangzhou this morning (08.20am) with the target is out as champion. PB PBSI Chairman, General Djoko Santoso targeted 'Merah Putih' team must win and bring back Sudirman Cup to its homeland. -- (KOMPAS, May 06/09) A hard mission for INA squad, good luck!
Wow.. ..**must** win??..Talk abt putting so much expectation on the team, that's indeed a very high demand and expectation... And what if they don't win and bring back the trophy??..
What do you expect him to say then? He can't possibly say something like, "Since we are kinda hopeless against team CHN or even KOR with our current strength, I suggest you all to take it easy lah... Last but not least, have fun in Guangzhou!"
Those doubters are just blind. Kido-Hendra has been the World number 1 MD pair or at least top 3 on Earth for the past 3 years...
I am sure that Markis/Kido will probbaly the only pair that always deliver a point for Indonesia when they play against other pairs. But that cannot be said for other players in the team.
As I read through kompas.com -- If INA team fails to reach the target, PBSI Chairman will be responsible. Another news article taken from the Jakarta Post : Indonesia desperate to add second trophy Agnes Winarti , The Jakarta Post , Jakarta | Wed, 05/06/2009 9:35 AM | Sports The Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) officially announce Tuesday its 35-member squad for the Sudirman Cup in Guangzhou, China. Scheduled to depart Wednesday, the team comprises 12 men's and eight women's players, seven coaches, two paramedics and six officials. The biennial world badminton mixed-team event will run from May 10-17. "We aim to bring the Sudirman Cup back to the country," said PBSI chairman Djoko Santoso during the ceremony at the Cipayung training camp in East Jakarta. "We realize rivalries among badminton-playing countries have escalated, while we have not shown great achievements in the Super Series tournaments. "It's time for us to focus and concentrate on winning," he added. The buildup to the championship has been discouraging for Indonesian shuttlers. Only a handful have attained success in the preceding Super Series. World No. 1 mixed doubles pair Nova Widianto and Liliyana Natsir were the only Indonesian players to triumph at the Malaysia Open at the beginning of the year. At the All England Open in Birmingham, no Indonesian singles players reached the finals. Nova and Liliyana, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso, Adrianti Firdasari and Pia Zebadiah Bernadet were all defeated in the earlier rounds. Worse followed at the Swiss Open in Basel, Switzerland. None of the country's shuttlers made it to the semifinals. Due to injury, top-ranked men's doubles pair Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan were absent from the two tournaments in Europe, before coming back to salvage Indonesian pride by winning the Asian Championship in Suwon, South Korea, in April. Besides Kido, Maria Kristin and Sony are among those who have already experienced playing in the Sudirman Cup. However, the three players are still recovering from old injuries. When asked about his waist injury, Sony simply said, "I'm OK with it and ready to fight." Maria said, "I just don't want to think about it too much." This year, the PBSI is marking a breakthrough by sending a relatively young squad, half of whom are first-timers in the Sudirman Cup. They include Tommy Sugiarto in the men's singles, Bona Septano/Muhammad Ahsan and Rian Sukmawan/Yonatan Suryatama in the men's doubles, Shendy Puspa Irawati/Meliana Jauhari and Nitya Krishinda in the women's doubles, mixed doubles player Devin Lahardi and reserve player Fran Kurniawan. Head Coach Christian Hadinata hoped the first-timers would view their participation in this year's Sudirman Cup as an honor rather than a burden. "Never take this Sudirman Cup assignment as a burden. Take it as an honor. In addition to that, I also hope the senior players are consistent in their performance to inspire their juniors," he said. Indonesia won the championship, named after Indonesian badminton legend and PBSI founder **** Sudirman, in 1989. China has won it six times and Korea three times. Indonesia has finished as runner-up six times. The draw for the first-round matches will see second seed Indonesia playing in the same group as third seed China, Japan and England.
What do i expect PBSI's Chairman to say??.. ..well, how about being a bit more modest and realistic? How about using something along the lines of "Our target is to reach the Final, but a Semifinal appearance will be considered a success". And no, it is not implying a "let's go and just achieve a Semifinals round appearance" but more of a realistic approach of what's to come and their challenges (like what's been discussed multiple times in this thread). The way i see the phrase of "must win" being used implies that the INA squad is going there to get it back or else. A do or die mission. But i'm not surprised also if the phrase is being used non-chalantly or in a teasing mode. Really, do you, Jagdpanther, realistically see the INA squad winning it??.. *thanks for the news.. As i was reading through the article, i do not see any use of the phrase "must win". Maybe it was used in a different news article or translated differently.. As for PBSI's chairman being responsible, well, in what ways will he be responsible for?? Btw, i also don't see anything of mention abt him being responsible if and should the INA squad fail to bring the trophy back. "Must win"???..
Owh, well, being realistic - people like to fancy things, that's unavoidable. do it wisely. No matter how many times we were being told that China is the most possible champion for this edition again, again and again?? there'll be no longer competitive matches if other teams stopped saying, "we're gonna win". I like your speech,"Our target is to reach the Final, but a Semifinal appearance will be considered a success". (well, u can beat Obama ~) This is realistic, and at the same time, inspiring too. The phrase of "Must win" is an unnecessary pressure, even if it was applied to China team.
Errr, if the decision makers are actually quoted to say the 2nd part in the press, would be interpreted as not being far thinking, bold, or visionary. They will never say the 2nd part, cos the last edition, INA was runner up, right? Semi is not sucesss but ..... Msia's BAM was critised by NST for stating "we did not set objectives for Sudirman Cup" meaning not daring, being negative, not having confidence in the team. And the reporter talked abt this in 2 articles. In private & saying in public very different one, hehe
Must win target (harus menjadi juara in Bahasa) was taken from KOMPAS print edition, Dilepas dengan Target Juara Tim Indonesia Bertolak Hari Ini ke Guangzhou Rabu, 6 Mei 2009 | 03:42 WIB Jakarta, Kompas - Dengan diperkuat sembilan pemain yang baru kali ini akan berkompetisi dalam kejuaraan beregu, tim Sudirman Indonesia dilepas oleh Ketua Umum PB PBSI Djoko Santoso. Dalam acara yang digelar di pelatnas Cipayung, Selasa (5/5), Djoko menargetkan juara bagi tim ”Merah Putih”. ”Tidak ada target minimal. Target itu harus menjadi juara,” kata Djoko seusai memberikan pengarahan kepada tim yang diperkuat 20 pemain tersebut. Selain semua pemain pelatnas, pelatih, dan pengurus PBSI, hadir pula Menteri Negara Pemuda dan Olahraga Adhyaksa Dault serta dua mantan ketua umum PB PBSI, Sutiyoso dan Soerjadi. Acara pelepasan tim Sudirman ini bertepatan dengan perayaan ulang tahun ke-58 PB PBSI. -------- For second case, taken from kompas.com -- http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/xml...o.indonesia.gagal.saya.yang.bertanggung.jawab Need volunteer here to translate both article completely in proper English...
Correct! That's the general plan. In case Nova is not fit, then Fran-Lilyana or Fran-Shendy can step in anytime...
Well.. ..of course, every time a team or player wins a championship/title, the "pressure" & expectation to defend the title is always there (just like your beloved ManU)..But for a team, which is still chasing and trying to get its long lost trophy back, is it really necessary to put such pressure to "must win"??.. ..sure, to experience "pressure" is all good & dandy. But then, what "pressure" is there if at the end of the day it's the PBSI's Chairman (as mentioned in the article above) who will be responsible for them winning it or not winning it, rather than the players.. ..oh yeah, i forgot INA actually had their veteran squad the last 2 SCs. And yet, with those lineups, they were only able to reach the Final round (before getting white-washed). Now, compare to this yr's squad, which at least half of the team consists roughly of first timers, doesn't it make more sense to temper their expectation?? Wouldn't it make sense to put a target of a Semifinals appearance and a bonus if they could reach the Final round, again?? Again, as i mentioned before, as long as they can remain in the 1st group for the next SC and reach the Semifinals round, that is already a success & satisfactory enough. A Final round appearance is just a bonus, esp. for this yr's squad. What do you think their chances are of reaching the Final round??.. *thanks for the link/news. All i can gather is, Bang Djoko said he will be responsible whether the team wins or loses. On what type of responsibility he will incur, he said it will depend on what the INA people want.....okaaaaay, what does he think the people really want in return??..
This is a bold move and extremely bold target, but even with this lineup, INA still has a decent chance to reach the final. After that, anything goes ..... CHN may be strong but in the last Thomas and Uber Cups, they were severely challenged. Who can bet that the challenge would not be equally strong in the Sudirman Cup.
WOW I JUST REALISED AUSTRALIA SENT A SQUAD TO THE CUP THIS YEAR!!!!! wooooo! Although its funny our best singles player lives and plays in denmark now so hes not going Id expect Jeff Tho to do the best. Even though hes very cocky with his attitude.
I think INA can be more sure with their MD and XD......to gain points....WS, MS and WD are still ........50 - 50...INA have great chance in this year Sudirman Cup.....to at least enter Final...
