IN or OUT?

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IN or OUT?

  1. IN!

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  1. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

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    i dont have the photos to attach but from the cctv5 slo-mo replay of the 3 bad line calls against (IN) peter gade during the 2005 sudirman MS match between taufik and peter gade, I viewed them and make my calls, 2 were OUT while 1 was IN.
     
  2. daringkidz

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    I'm not really sure about the exact rules of badminton but..

    Can't the umpire call a 'let'? As in replay the shot since its almost impossible to call? (Based from the poll)
     
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    OUT the most percentage of the shuttle is in the outside of the court
     
  4. pwakankar

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    It depends. If I hit it.. of course it is in
    if my opponent hit this .. it is out ;)

    seriously, i think it is out.
     
  5. Canuck19_14

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    still in the air? or not

    I think it pretty much depends if that is actually touching the floor. If it is I think it would be IN but at that angle if it was still in the air it would of went a little bit further and would be out ? o_O close one though...
     
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    Doesn't matter how much is out. If it touches the line its still in.
     
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    Judging from the video or pic,it can be called as an out.But the live line umpires would probably call it in.
     
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    This is not a video, but if you tell me it's a capture of the precise moment any part of the shuttle FIRST TOUCHES the ground, i would say it touched the green floor FIRST.

    However, I am also sure that most umpires would call such a shot IN during a match. Usually a shuttle is called out only when there is totally no suspicion of it having touched the line or not.

    Verdict:
    Going by strict rules it'd be an OUT, but IN call usually wins benefit of doubt:D
     
  9. wilfredlgf

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    Nowadays it depends on who's playing and who's judging.

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    ;)
     
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    we need keep showing the BWF the can of worms, hopefully they squirm and wake up and do something. In post #1, the sample photo showed a shuttle even more closer to the line.
     
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    problem is, if player can forget about it, then bwf will keep on sitting on their butt and do nothing, or using excuse of 'we're looking into it'. Line camera is cheap to install, we don't need hawkeye system. Cork doesn't compresses like tennis ball, a cork shadow over the line helps to decide in some cases, still not for all cases. A line-cam for each major lines should does the job. In badminton, a camera view in the axis of the line is preferred, not like in tennis where a top down view from the hawkeye system.
     
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    Look at the poll, 52% of people guessed wrong (in my opinion and from my photo case study). This support that under normal tv camera angle on a above ground view, more than half guessed wrong. This support my view that in 2007 CO, outside audience or tv fans, without the aid of on-the-line cam, can be wrong.
     
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    it seem so did the line judge in 2010 AE MSF too
     
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    To be fair for all players, we need eagle eyes !!
     
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    The replay shows its out. Yeah the feather maybe is in but the cork is out!!!!!!
     
  16. LD rules!

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    do recall that a couple of points earlier in Tagos match, his block/lift that the line judge deemed to be out, was in aswell, thats two points in the space of 3 minutes
     
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    second thoughts, at 17-18 in the second game the shuttle is close, probaly just out
     
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    I vote out. This is because i believe the replay is closer and the linesmen and LCW cannot see it.
     
  19. Many Ch0icez

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    I belive this shuttlecock is indeed with a big juicy IN ;)
     
  20. drew tze en

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    i agree it looks in !!
    what is the answer?
     

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